Chris Froome
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shows me up as a right boomer as the kids would saybobmcstuff said:
Zeroes are not included in the Strava average (nor Garmin or any other one I've seen).mididoctors said:
a lot of downhill where he isn't pedalling i suspect.rick_chasey said:
Am I being stupid or is that quite a slow cadence for him?RichN95. said:Nothing special, but better than I'd manage at my peak
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
I always find my average cadence is way below what it is whenever i look at my current cadence. There must be something to it. It can't just be due to lower cadence while accelerating.mididoctors said:
shows me up as a right boomer as the kids would saybobmcstuff said:
Zeroes are not included in the Strava average (nor Garmin or any other one I've seen).mididoctors said:
a lot of downhill where he isn't pedalling i suspect.rick_chasey said:
Am I being stupid or is that quite a slow cadence for him?RichN95. said:Nothing special, but better than I'd manage at my peak
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Cadence is probably lower when taking it a bit more easy.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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bobmcstuff said:
Zeroes are not included in the Strava average (nor Garmin or any other one I've seen).mididoctors said:
a lot of downhill where he isn't pedalling i suspect.rick_chasey said:
Am I being stupid or is that quite a slow cadence for him?RichN95. said:Nothing special, but better than I'd manage at my peak
well no, but anything more than a zero, like even 1per minute, would be, you never completely stop turning the pedals even going downhill,well ok I dont, as I feel Im not letting lactic then build up in the muscles too much, which might be a complete old wives tale.but the only time Im not pedalling even if its just turning the legs slowly is if Im stopped generally
but you can change your Garmin to record zeros on cadence for the average reading, its only the default setting that it non-zeroes0 -
I find more often the opposite - i.e., I'm descending with pedals level, and I usually have the right foot forward in that case, and the magnet thingy goes forwards and backwards over the cadence sensor very quickly, giving a spike of like 200 rpm. From my last ride (this is about a 1.5km distance):awavey said:bobmcstuff said:
Zeroes are not included in the Strava average (nor Garmin or any other one I've seen).mididoctors said:
a lot of downhill where he isn't pedalling i suspect.rick_chasey said:
Am I being stupid or is that quite a slow cadence for him?RichN95. said:Nothing special, but better than I'd manage at my peak
well no, but anything more than a zero, like even 1per minute, would be, you never completely stop turning the pedals even going downhill,well ok I dont, as I feel Im not letting lactic then build up in the muscles too much, which might be a complete old wives tale.but the only time Im not pedalling even if its just turning the legs slowly is if Im stopped generally
but you can change your Garmin to record zeros on cadence for the average reading, its only the default setting that it non-zeroes
But those spikes are too short to affect the overall average.
I'm not sure what my Garmin would display if I just did one revolution per minute, because obviously it shows your cadence change much quicker than that so the averaging period for cadence must be in the order of a few seconds. I expect that it would show say 30 rpm for a couple of seconds then drop back to 0 for the rest of the time.
This is kind of off topic though...0 -
Here's the split of cadence across the ride as a whole
2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)0 -
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Maybe Milemuncher was right after all...0
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so, in conclusion, I was right all along as usual."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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That wasn't the conclusion... Larkim's post clearly shows the average being based on cadence time while moving... If you included that massive bar for 0-5 RPM (over 50 mins), the overall average would be massively lower. The median looks to be the 80-85 rpm bar.mididoctors said:so, in conclusion, I was right all along as usual.
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I've simplified the buckets a bit more
ZONE FROM RPM TO RPM TIME % ZONE
Z1 0.0 5.0 00:52:02 14.7%
Z2 5.0 50.0 00:05:32 1.6%
Z3 50.0 70.0 00:58:56 16.7%
Z4 70.0 75.0 00:32:58 9.3%
Z5 75.0 80.0 00:40:22 11.4%
Z6 80.0 85.0 00:49:16 13.9%
Z7 85.0 90.0 00:44:18 12.5%
Z8 90.0 95.0 00:29:03 8.2%
Z9 95.0 100.0 00:22:01 6.2%
Z10 100.0 150.0 00:18:49 5.3%
If you look at the "laps" he was clearly doing some time-based efforts - 24 minutes or so for the first lap, then exactly 30 mins, then exactly 10 mins (only covering a mile, so recovery), then exactly 30 mins, then a lap to the top, and one final "lap" for the remainder.
2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)0 -
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Power stats and meters is SRS stuff. They are expensive it's good they generate something of a debate ...rick_chasey said:Jeez guys - didn't realise I was laying down such kindling.
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
I love my stats. And the cadence thing chimes because once upon a time I was sneered at for asking whether the 92rpm cadence I was setting on a turbo for half an hour would be replicated if I went out for a "real world" ride using the same cadence sensor and recording device because I'd just roll down any hills I'd ridden up. It's not a daft question!
(For info, the data I pulled was using the "elevate" chrome extension for strava).2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)0 -
Yeah so obviously from that if you add the 52 mins at 0-5 RPM in (presumably this is the coasting time, approximately), the average would come down significantly from 79. That's nearly a 5th of the total time so he would have had to average nearly 100 RPM for the other 4 hours to give an average of 79 RPM including the zeros... Which the buckets above clearly show is not the case...larkim said:I've simplified the buckets a bit more
ZONE FROM RPM TO RPM TIME % ZONE
Z1 0.0 5.0 00:52:02 14.7%
Z2 5.0 50.0 00:05:32 1.6%
Z3 50.0 70.0 00:58:56 16.7%
Z4 70.0 75.0 00:32:58 9.3%
Z5 75.0 80.0 00:40:22 11.4%
Z6 80.0 85.0 00:49:16 13.9%
Z7 85.0 90.0 00:44:18 12.5%
Z8 90.0 95.0 00:29:03 8.2%
Z9 95.0 100.0 00:22:01 6.2%
Z10 100.0 150.0 00:18:49 5.3%
If you look at the "laps" he was clearly doing some time-based efforts - 24 minutes or so for the first lap, then exactly 30 mins, then exactly 10 mins (only covering a mile, so recovery), then exactly 30 mins, then a lap to the top, and one final "lap" for the remainder.0 -
Yeah me too.larkim said:I love my stats. And the cadence thing chimes because once upon a time I was sneered at for asking whether the 92rpm cadence I was setting on a turbo for half an hour would be replicated if I went out for a "real world" ride using the same cadence sensor and recording device because I'd just roll down any hills I'd ridden up. It's not a daft question!
(For info, the data I pulled was using the "elevate" chrome extension for strava).
My road average seems to be a bit higher than my turbo average, except on climbs. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference...0 -
Interesting, I'm completely the opposite.bobmcstuff said:
Yeah me too.larkim said:I love my stats. And the cadence thing chimes because once upon a time I was sneered at for asking whether the 92rpm cadence I was setting on a turbo for half an hour would be replicated if I went out for a "real world" ride using the same cadence sensor and recording device because I'd just roll down any hills I'd ridden up. It's not a daft question!
(For info, the data I pulled was using the "elevate" chrome extension for strava).
My road average seems to be a bit higher than my turbo average, except on climbs. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference...You can fool some of the people all of the time. Concentrate on those people.0 -
My personal bike performance comparisons to Froome stop at cadence, I'm very much a spinner most of the time, ~95-105rpm inside or out if my legs aren't dead.
78rpm average for Froome is very low. Maybe he was low cadence training because there's apparently no benefit to it whatsoever. ================
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I was thinking maybe it could be something to do with the injury? Perhaps he can;t sustain high cadence like normal or has been advised not to for whatever reason. Cos like you say, it seems very low for him.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:My personal bike performance comparisons to Froome stop at cadence, I'm very much a spinner most of the time, ~95-105rpm inside or out if my legs aren't dead.
78rpm average for Froome is very low. Maybe he was low cadence training because there's apparently no benefit to it whatsoever.0 -
Rohan Denis doing a very good impression of him, it's brilliant. Also shows he's in better place mentally, possibly even enjoying himself.0
