Di2 on a non di2 canyon frame
Comments
-
Says mr dura ace carbon chain rings.... Hahaha..hahha... breathe... ha haha hahaha... chuckle.MattFalle said:its just consistently surprising that people will pay so much for something that doesn't operate that much better - if any at all - than a decent mechanical set up but is heavier, more complicated more error prone, more restrictive on frame choice, impossible to repair, less transferable across ranges and, some might say, uglier.
but its horses for courses i suppose: so long as people are happy thats all that matters in the crazy post Tony times.
0 -
MattFalle said:
its just consistently surprising that people will pay so much for something that doesn't operate that much better - if any at all - than a decent mechanical set up but is heavier, more complicated more error prone, more restrictive on frame choice, impossible to repair, less transferable across ranges and, some might say, uglier.
but its horses for courses i suppose: so long as people are happy thats all that matters in the crazy post Tony times.
If you have Di2 (or any electronic groupset for that matter) & you need a new mech you either pay it it do without. I’m not saying it is or isn’t worth it, that’s just the way it is.
No one “needs” Di2 but if you want it & can afford it why not?
I’ll be getting it in the near future, will it make me any faster? No. Do I care? Not in the slightest.
I’ve saved up for it & bought the bits all separately over time so it was cheaper rather than cheap.
I wanted it, it’s worth it to me & TBH that’s all that matters.
As you say horses for courses.0 -
i haven't got dura ace carbon chain rings. i wasn't aware they made them, however, if they do and they are the right price i may buy some.First.Aspect said:
Says mr dura ace carbon chain rings.... Hahaha..hahha... breathe... ha haha hahaha... chuckle.MattFalle said:its just consistently surprising that people will pay so much for something that doesn't operate that much better - if any at all - than a decent mechanical set up but is heavier, more complicated more error prone, more restrictive on frame choice, impossible to repair, less transferable across ranges and, some might say, uglier.
but its horses for courses i suppose: so long as people are happy thats all that matters in the crazy post Tony times.
do you have any links please?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
0 -
Re: the rear mech - I had a minor off and Di2 stopped working. Oddly it worked fine to get me home, then when I charged it before a ride the next day - kaput.
Left it with the shop for a couple of days to fiddle with the wires and still zilch. And as you say - when you need a new mech, you need a new mech or you don't ride your bike.
Just checked the receipt and you're quite right I paid £200.
FYI: The sexiest chainset of all time is the rare and expensive 7800 series with carbon cranks. That and the cannondale SiSL2
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimano-Dura-Ace-Fc-7800-C-Carbon-Crankset-172-5-53T-Dura-Ace-/3534122379490 -
oh - thats rather tasty. very very very tasty.shirley_basso said:Re: the rear mech - I had a minor off and Di2 stopped working. Oddly it worked fine to get me home, then when I charged it before a ride the next day - kaput.
Left it with the shop for a couple of days to fiddle with the wires and still zilch. And as you say - when you need a new mech, you need a new mech or you don't ride your bike.
Just checked the receipt and you're quite right I paid £200.
FYI: The sexiest chainset of all time is the rare and expensive 7800 series with carbon cranks. That and the cannondale SiSL2
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimano-Dura-Ace-Fc-7800-C-Carbon-Crankset-172-5-53T-Dura-Ace-/353412237949.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
0 -
As an aside, if FA is questioning the dura ace cassette from a few weeks ago - it ended up costing me £57. Ultegra starts at 60 and is heavier and not as nicely made.
Seems an alright deal to me.
Am still well intrigued by these dura ace carbon cranks and chain rings he's going on about though..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
0 -
The FibreLytes are also cheaper, lighter, last as long and look a squillion times better than Ultegra chain rings.
Seems an alright deal as well if ypu're building a weightweenie climbing bike..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
0 -
Knock yourself out. If they were any good, you would see people using them. It seems inevitable to me that they will suffer from issues at the interface between the teeth and the carbon, in which case the best bet would be the aero ones.MattFalle said:The FibreLytes are also cheaper, lighter, last as long and look a squillion times better than Ultegra chain rings.
Seems an alright deal as well if ypu're building a weightweenie climbing bike.
TA Specialities make the best chain rings, imo, if you want durability.0 -
cool - i will, thank you. loads of people do use them, so thats cool as well. Perhaps FibreLyte also had the same thought/feedback as you and sorted their design.First.Aspect said:
Knock yourself out. If they were any good, you would see people using them. It seems inevitable to me that they will suffer from issues at the interface between the teeth and the carbon, in which case the best bet would be the aero ones.MattFalle said:The FibreLytes are also cheaper, lighter, last as long and look a squillion times better than Ultegra chain rings.
Seems an alright deal as well if ypu're building a weightweenie climbing bike.
TA Specialities make the best chain rings, imo, if you want durability.
its going to be used once every couple of months, if that, so no need for max durability. but thank you for the recommendation re TA..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
0 -
My LBS had a set of those on display in the bling cabinet, which he flatly refused to sell at any price.shirley_basso said:Re: the rear mech - I had a minor off and Di2 stopped working. Oddly it worked fine to get me home, then when I charged it before a ride the next day - kaput.
Left it with the shop for a couple of days to fiddle with the wires and still zilch. And as you say - when you need a new mech, you need a new mech or you don't ride your bike.
Just checked the receipt and you're quite right I paid £200.
FYI: The sexiest chainset of all time is the rare and expensive 7800 series with carbon cranks. That and the cannondale SiSL2
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimano-Dura-Ace-Fc-7800-C-Carbon-Crankset-172-5-53T-Dura-Ace-/353412237949
Open One+ BMC TE29 Seven 622SL On One Scandal Cervelo RS0 -
They will look nice, that's for sure. But if you think the fact you can buy them is any indication of engineering quality, you've not been paying attention to the bike industry for the past 50 years.MattFalle said:
cool - i will, thank you. loads of people do use them, so thats cool as well. Perhaps FibreLyte also had the same thought/feedback as you and sorted their design.First.Aspect said:
Knock yourself out. If they were any good, you would see people using them. It seems inevitable to me that they will suffer from issues at the interface between the teeth and the carbon, in which case the best bet would be the aero ones.MattFalle said:The FibreLytes are also cheaper, lighter, last as long and look a squillion times better than Ultegra chain rings.
Seems an alright deal as well if ypu're building a weightweenie climbing bike.
TA Specialities make the best chain rings, imo, if you want durability.
its going to be used once every couple of months, if that, so no need for max durability. but thank you for the recommendation re TA.
Personally I prefer the cobweb ones that KCNC do, if form over function is your thing.
0
