Milan San Remo - Sat 23rd March 19 *possible spoilers

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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Not much of a spoiler. Was it PN he pulled out of too? Needs more racing miles in his legs to do well here.
  • Beatmaker
    Beatmaker Posts: 1,092
    cougie wrote:
    Not much of a spoiler. Was it PN he pulled out of too? Needs more racing miles in his legs to do well here.

    Possible spoilers refers to any further posts that might be made during the race, as per other race threads.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    A bit of me still suspects this is just Cavendish attempting his annual MSR sand-bagging in which he assures everyone he's not thinking about winning the thing...
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    It might be hard to win it if you aren’t on the start line.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    It looks like sky wrote down their team, then realised how pointless it would be to even show up with that and gave Kwiatkowski a shout.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Gazzetta dello Sport
    ***** Alaphilippe, Viviani
    **** Trentin, Ewan, Gaviria, Sagan
    *** Valverde, KWiatkowski, Démare
    ** Nibali, GvA, Degenkolb, Gilbert, Cort
    * Bettiol, Groenewegen, Colbrelli, Bennett, Dumoulin

    Het Nieuwsblad
    *****Alaphilippe
    **** Ewan, Sagan
    *** Viviani, Gaviria, Démare
    ** Cort, Gilbert, Trentin, Kwiatkowski
    * Degenkolb, Naesen, van Avermaet, Bennett, Colbrelli

    l'Équipe
    ***** Alaphilippe
    **** Sagan, Kiwatkowski
    *** Viviani, Gilbert
    ** Gaviria, Trentin, Valverde, van Avermaet, Nibali
    * Ewan, Colbrelli, Bennett, Groenewegen, Degenkolb, Matthews, Démare
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    With so many possible winners I think it’s rare to see such in odds on favorite, so the question is how dies Alaphilippe win it? There’s a Stella field of sprinters so he’s got to do a Nibali, but there must be people who can go with him. Can he outsprint Sagan? He was third of the three the other year wasn’t he? His sprint is possibly better than Kwai these days .
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    I think an attack like Nibali's last year will very rarely stick, and I just can't see him getting the better of Bennett, Viviani, Gaviria, Ewan in a sprint. Then again, he is in the shape of his life so you never know.

    Surprised at how highly rated Sagan is because he looks well below his best so far.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    inseine wrote:
    With so many possible winners I think it’s rare to see such in odds on favorite, so the question is how dies Alaphilippe win it? There’s a Stella field of sprinters so he’s got to do a Nibali, but there must be people who can go with him. Can he outsprint Sagan? He was third of the three the other year wasn’t he? His sprint is possibly better than Kwai these days .
    He's not odds on with the bookies, although obviously that's weighted by the fact lots of people bet on Sagan because he's well known.

    Odds are pretty close at the top and not that short either. Sagan around 9/2, Viviani 11/2 or 5/1, Alaphillippe and Ewan around 13/2 (alaphillippe slightly shorter at some places).

    Looks pretty open to me.

    Inrng's chainrings:

    ***** –
    **** Elia Viviani, Julian Alaphilippe, Fernando Gaviria
    *** Caleb Ewan, Michał Kwiatkowski, Peter Sagan
    ** Dylan Groenewegen, Sam Bennett, Zdeněk Štybar, Arnaud Démare
    * Matthews, Degenkolb, Cort, Van Avermaet, Kristoff, Philipsen, Colbrelli
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Is Sagan in any type of form? He was very off the pace last week
  • kleinstroker
    kleinstroker Posts: 2,133
    Feel like I've just awakened from a coma. Have I missed that much that we're already at MSR? This year is going way too fast
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Looks pretty open to me.

    Inrng's chainrings:

    ***** –
    **** Elia Viviani, Julian Alaphilippe, Fernando Gaviria
    *** Caleb Ewan, Michał Kwiatkowski, Peter Sagan
    ** Dylan Groenewegen, Sam Bennett, Zdeněk Štybar, Arnaud Démare
    * Matthews, Degenkolb, Cort, Van Avermaet, Kristoff, Philipsen, Colbrelli

    I can't really see where they are coming from with a few of these and some strange omissions.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Well it's just his opinion. But all I'm saying is it looks pretty open, Alaphillippe seems to be favourite but not massively so.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Just watching de kleedkamer special on MSR - focus on the 1985 - to get myself revved up.

    If anyone is complaining it’s boring before they get to the poggio I’m going to rescind your cycling fan licence.

    On a day like today it does feel like the transition from winter to spring.

    Also, the annual reminder that distance also make selections - of the best kind.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    10 riders in the break - can’t copy them on my phone.

    No one particular.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Live now with 100 long, mostly boring kms to go.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    10 riders in the break - can’t copy them on my phone.

    No one particular.

    Too right.

    Breakaway: Masnada (Androni), Maestri, Tonelli (Bardiani), Sagiv (Israel Academy), Raggio, Schonberger (Neri Sottoli), Henttala, Peron, Planet, Poli (Novo Nordisk)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    sprinter teams (uae, lotto, bora) and quick step all chasing.
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Quite a few people on the beach. Fair play.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    No Kirby on Eurosport :D
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    No Kirby on Eurosport :D
    Wouldn't know. I'm in the canaries, and the b*stard player won't work here :evil:
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    No Kirby on Eurosport :D

    6 day racing is wonderful for keeping Kirby quiet on the road.
    Thank you Manchester. :D
    I've slept through the last 50kms.
    Wondering if I have time for another 20ks before anything happens.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Idiots with flares have set fire to the trees at the roadside
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Blows my mind how far this race is.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Cipressa up soon.
    Peloton starting the position fight.
    Classic "not where you can win, but where you can lose" stretch.
    Warning No formatter is installed for the format
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Odds on a Gilbert move on the Cipressa?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    All quiet on the Cipressa front......
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Sprinter friendly pace up the cipressa...
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Sprinter friendly pace up the cipressa...
    Yeah it's lame. Some of my non cycling mates are watching it and I told them nothing would happen till the Cipressa. Nothing's still happening.

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