Stefan Denifl + Operation Alderlass

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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    http://inrng.com/2019/03/operation-ader ... more-35139
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Karel Tammjärv:
    ""Blood was given to me each morning before the race and the blood was taken again immediately after the race. So there would be no trace for the doping control officers, I was told.""
    How can they take the blood out before the testers get to him? Aren't they chaperoned immediately after they finish?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Karel Tammjärv:
    ""Blood was given to me each morning before the race and the blood was taken again immediately after the race. So there would be no trace for the doping control officers, I was told.""
    How can they take the blood out before the testers get to him? Aren't they chaperoned immediately after they finish?
    All of it? :shock:
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited March 2019
    bompington wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Karel Tammjärv:
    ""Blood was given to me each morning before the race and the blood was taken again immediately after the race. So there would be no trace for the doping control officers, I was told.""
    How can they take the blood out before the testers get to him? Aren't they chaperoned immediately after they finish?
    All of it? :shock:
    No, but very nearly an armful.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    https://www.sportschau.de/doping/Doping-Razzia-Hintergruende-ENG-100.html

    Blood bag code names!!!!!


    Oh man, I’ve come over all nostalgic....
    Are they going to release them so we can present wildly inaccurate guesses as facts again?

    Since 'name of your first pet' was done by Fuentes this one will be 'mother's maiden name'

    How about the names of the Von Trapps?
    Climb every mountain and all that....
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    suicided pop stars or Paedo pop stars
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    A good codename system would be to use the names of other cyclists. No-one's going to come looking for Denifl and Preidler if their bags are marked up 'Dumoulin' and 'Froome'
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Does Contador get his 2017 Vuelta stage 17 victory handed to him then? Ahahahahaha

    Froome already handed him his farewell stage victory
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    KIttel's thoughts: https://www.marcelkittel.de/en/
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Rumours a world tour team is caught up in this.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Who’s been having a really good season so far?....
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Gweeds wrote:
    Who’s been having a really good season so far?....

    Normally riders who are conspicuously quiet after the scandal breaks, no?

    And where is the Austrian connection?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Rumours a world tour team is caught up in this.

    Well, it could also be those pesky French wildcards...

    ARD Doping Editorial Team: Growing evidence that cyclists from teams participating in Tour de France could be involved

    https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/ ... 7721670656
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    That’s what I’m struggling to see.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited March 2019
    Gweeds wrote:
    That’s what I’m struggling to see.

    Bora.
    4 Austrian riders.
    ( and a load of near neighbours)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    And Sagan far too close for the UCI’s comfort.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Rumours a world tour team is caught up in this.

    Well, it could also be those pesky French wildcards...

    ARD Doping Editorial Team: Growing evidence that cyclists from teams participating in Tour de France could be involved

    https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/ ... 7721670656

    Still think it’s wawa on his team giant days?

    I have a hunch based on nothing that a certain bearded rider is involved
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Gweeds wrote:
    And Sagan far too close for the UCI’s comfort.

    If it was Sagan the rumours would be a sh!tload louder.
    _
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Rumours a world tour team is caught up in this.

    Well, it could also be those pesky French wildcards...

    ARD Doping Editorial Team: Growing evidence that cyclists from teams participating in Tour de France could be involved

    https://twitter.com/hajoseppelt/status/ ... 7721670656

    Still think it’s wawa on his team giant days?

    I have a hunch based on nothing that a certain bearded rider is involved

    Simple Simon?

    Anyhow, some more stuff here:

    https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/20/at- ... prosecutor
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    21 athletes over 5 sports is not gonna blow up cycling unless it’s a mega big scalp.
    _
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,598
    Hawaii = triathlon?

    I didn't realise blood doping made you more aero. They do believe anything though.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    21 athletes over 5 sports is not gonna blow up cycling unless it’s a mega big scalp.
    Or if Tenerife pops up as another venue.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    21 athletes over 5 sports is not gonna blow up cycling unless it’s a mega big scalp.
    Three of the sports are winter sports. Probably Cross-Skiing, Biathlon and maybe Speed Skating
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  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    gsk82 wrote:
    Hawaii = triathlon?

    I didn't realise blood doping made you more aero. They do believe anything though.

    I can think of one Austrian former cyclist, with a history of blood doping, who has transformed himself into a successful triathlete and has managed a top 10 finish at Hawaii Ironman. I'm sure he's not daft enough to get caught again...
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    Double post
  • term1te
    term1te Posts: 1,462
    The Swiss NZZ is a little more forthcoming than Euronews https://www.nzz.ch/sport/operation-aderlass-so-funktionierte-das-erfurter-dopingnetzwerk-ld.1468834. They say that the names of 21 athletes are known, 20 professional, one semi-pro. This number is expected to increase. Also that a triathlete, competing in Hawaii, was/is a long term client of Dr 'S'. It’s also claimed that they are not naming the 21, for tactical reasons, as some don't know that they've been rumbled yet.


    'S' and his non-medically trained assistants were 'learning by doing', and they give a couple of stories were the athlete was 'lucky' after unfortunate side effects. All for 4,000 to 12,000 Euro per year.
    The Master
    The Moser
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Looks like the Dr (Mark Schmidt) being investigated has been at it a while since Hondo of all people has been caught up in it.

    Hondo says "there is no professional future for me in cycling....especially as I am a repeat offender."
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
    Who is Hondo?

    I thought Hondo was a basketball player for the Boston Celtics?
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Danilo Hondo. Rode for Lampre
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    M.R.M. wrote:
    Who is Hondo?

    I thought Hondo was a basketball player for the Boston Celtics?
    He used to be lead out for Petacchi in his later years. He was really good at it.
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