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  • Wouldn't be surprised if Labour reverses all of these reversals. i.e. the Tory's are positioning themselves for a decade from now, to blame Labour for all of the decisions that the Tory's actually made to begin with.

    They don't stand for anything at all, other than Brexit.


    And they don't even know what Brexit actually is, in practical terms. Never did, which is why they never got it.
    It's done now though Brian.

    So they now stand for not undoing it, whatever it was.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,411

    Pross said:

    To channel my inner Rick, it’s interesting that inflation doesn’t matter to Boomers with their triple lock, inflation proof pensions.

    More odd is why they find small boats a bigger issue when they are mainly not affected by people ‘coming here taking their jobs’ and already have their own homes. I guess they’re more likely to read newspapers and have their views formed by the tabloids.

    Don't conflate boomers with gammons.

    And if you really want to channel your inner Rick, you will need to complain about them being enriched by high interests on their vast savings, funding all their high CO2 Saga holidays.
    Stone cold winners from inflation. Your state handouts are going up way more than even real inflation is, and your savings are going through the roof.

    Winner winner steak dinner.
    Inflation can look benefit long term borrowers like yourself as the principal amount of the debt does not inflate. Although you might be annoyed that did help boomers in the past.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Even the Tory leadership hasn’t tried arguing that inflation well above their target rate is actually a good thing. You’ll be giving them ideas!
  • Jezyboy said:

    The reset of Sunak's premiership seems to mostly be cancelling stuff


    Surrey C will be ecstatic.
    Delirious with joy
  • Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
  • Pross said:

    The worrying thing on there is how few see economic growth as the most important. With economic growth you can improve all of the others. Lack of economic growth is the root cause of a lot of the issues. Again, I'm starting to sound like Rick - I need to take a break from this place!


    Everybody likes economic growth it is just that most of us don’t think Govt’s can turn a tap and make it faster.

    Economic growth is starting to look and sound a lot like efficiency savings and cracking down on benefit fraudsters
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway
  • Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway

    I've no idea how many thousands of tonnes of concrete have already been used and how many bridges built.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway

    I've no idea how many thousands of tonnes of concrete have already been used and how many bridges built.
    I would think they still need to build rather a lot of bridges😉
  • Isn't it all just a bridge too far?
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway
    A narrow one?
  • Hyperloop?
  • At least a hyperloop would be proper quick.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    edited September 2023
    A bloody expensive bike path?
    That's what happens to unused railways, isn't it?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • It seems funny that many canals now are being restored.
  • An actual dead cat strategy


    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Jezyboy said:

    Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway
    A narrow one?
    a very long street of terraced houses would ease the housing crisis
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Jezyboy said:

    Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway
    A narrow one?
    a very long street of terraced houses would ease the housing crisis
    Do you work for NEOM?
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    They could build a really long thin city like they're doing in Saudi Arabia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Line,_Saudi_Arabia
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Beat ya to it 😏
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Having seen the spec of what they’re offering various finance and real estate big wigs doe that, especially versus what the UAE would offer for equivalent roles, it’s not gonna work.

    Obviously doing it on the cheap.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    An actual dead cat strategy


    Too on the nose, but of course Sunak is a dog person
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    An actual dead cat strategy


    Too on the nose, but of course Sunak is a dog person
    Until he thinks there are more cat people in his core vote.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    There's a railway built through it
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    Jezyboy said:

    The reset of Sunak's premiership seems to mostly be cancelling stuff


    Surrey C will be ecstatic.
    Delirious with joy
    In the unlikely event that the line to Manchester is cancelled and not just delayed, why would you be happy about them having spent all the money but not having anything to show for it? I know you don't keep up with railway news but they have already built the tunnels and viaducts.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    Jezyboy said:

    Pross said:

    Will there be a series of HS2 theme parks along where the line was supposed to be, to make use of all the sites where major works have started? Or will it be like a heritage railway line that goes from nowhere to nowhere, with steam trains making use of the tracks for day trips?

    Why not just sell the land?
    Or build a motorway
    A narrow one?
    a very long street of terraced houses would ease the housing crisis
    In a tunnel?
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    Has any of the phase 2 work started?

    They've done lots of dicking about slightly north of Birmingham, but this largely seems to be allowing connection of HS2 phase one with the current mainline.

    It's going to be hilarious seeing them announcing that they are canceling HS2 phase 2 up to Manchester, whilst they are at their party conference in... Manchester.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    How many of you find yourself screaming “IT’S ABOUT CAPACITY” in your head every time you hear anyone talk about this on the news/radio etc