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Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.0 -
Lolz incoming“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
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Well, buildings falling on children is not something anyone would want to risk, not even this government.
Apologies if I missed it, but I presume someone has mentioned that Michael Gove cancelled a school's rebuilding programme in 2010.0 -
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.
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That will have been Labour's fault. Anything done in the first decade of a tory government is excused on that basis, didn't you know?veronese68 said:Well, buildings falling on children is not something anyone would want to risk, not even this government.
Apologies if I missed it, but I presume someone has mentioned that Michael Gove cancelled a school's rebuilding programme in 2010.0 -
This is a genuine question, what did any of these people get into politics for?
They have immense levels of influence to shape and execute public policy, even if it is of a political persuasion that I fundamentally disagree with. Yet none of them seem to have any interest in this.
I can only assume that many politicians now (mainly Tory and largely Cabinet Ministers) really are solely concerned with individual gain and ego fulfilment.
I can't quite believe how keen they seem to be to squander any larger influence they have on public life. Whether or not you believe they are doing good or ill, to do nothing at all with it just baffles me.
Or is is the fact they are genuinely so ignorant and talentless that they have no clue what they are actually supposed to be doing (the likes of Dorries, Shapps, Rees-Mogg and many others spring to mind).1 -
I think there is always a tendency to look back on the good old days as being better, but I think the calibre of politicians does seem to have been falling since the Blair era.MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:This is a genuine question, what did any of these people get into politics for?
They have immense levels of influence to shape and execute public policy, even if it is of a political persuasion that I fundamentally disagree with. Yet none of them seem to have any interest in this.
I can only assume that many politicians now (mainly Tory and largely Cabinet Ministers) really are solely concerned with individual gain and ego fulfilment.
I can't quite believe how keen they seem to be to squander any larger influence they have on public life. Whether or not you believe they are doing good or ill, to do nothing at all with it just baffles me.
Or is is the fact they are genuinely so ignorant and talentless that they have no clue what they are actually supposed to be doing (the likes of Dorries, Shapps, Rees-Mogg and many others spring to mind).
In the last 20 years the Tories have had 7 leaders and many of them were woeful.
I think it all stems from the electoral system0 -
1995 - The Times newspaper reports the first warnings about RAAC cracking in roofs came in.
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Autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC) was developed in Sweden in the 1920s and introduced to the UK in the late 1950s. In its most common form, it is used in the construction of lightweight thermal blocks.https://ww3.rics.org/uk/en/journals/built-environment-journal/reinforced-autoclaved-aerated-concrete-planks.html
Look, don't blame the Tories, Sweden started it!0 -
Have you seen the pension they can get?MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:This is a genuine question, what did any of these people get into politics for?
They have immense levels of influence to shape and execute public policy, even if it is of a political persuasion that I fundamentally disagree with. Yet none of them seem to have any interest in this.
I can only assume that many politicians now (mainly Tory and largely Cabinet Ministers) really are solely concerned with individual gain and ego fulfilment.
I can't quite believe how keen they seem to be to squander any larger influence they have on public life. Whether or not you believe they are doing good or ill, to do nothing at all with it just baffles me.
Or is is the fact they are genuinely so ignorant and talentless that they have no clue what they are actually supposed to be doing (the likes of Dorries, Shapps, Rees-Mogg and many others spring to mind).0 -
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.
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I was waiting for some uninformed twit to start a scare on AAC blockwork. Please don't be that guy.focuszing723 said:Autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC) was developed in Sweden in the 1920s and introduced to the UK in the late 1950s. In its most common form, it is used in the construction of lightweight thermal blocks.https://ww3.rics.org/uk/en/journals/built-environment-journal/reinforced-autoclaved-aerated-concrete-planks.html
Look, don't blame the Tories, Sweden started it!1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Looking at the list of known affected schools on the BBC website, there seems to be a dispropotionately high number of them in Essex . . . anyone any ideas why?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66681227Wilier Izoard XP0 -
I take offense at the uniformed accusation. I use the internet you know!rjsterry said:
I was waiting for some uninformed twit to start a scare on AAC blockwork. Please don't be that guy.focuszing723 said:Autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC) was developed in Sweden in the 1920s and introduced to the UK in the late 1950s. In its most common form, it is used in the construction of lightweight thermal blocks.https://ww3.rics.org/uk/en/journals/built-environment-journal/reinforced-autoclaved-aerated-concrete-planks.html
Look, don't blame the Tories, Sweden started it!
Cheek!0 -
Ha I used to have a boss who would say "what do you want me to say, well done for doing you job?"
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Footballers get praised though and they just kick a ball about.0
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😁 it's the reinforcement that is the problem, not the AAC.focuszing723 said:
I take offense at the uniformed accusation. I use the internet you know!rjsterry said:
I was waiting for some uninformed twit to start a scare on AAC blockwork. Please don't be that guy.focuszing723 said:Autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC) was developed in Sweden in the 1920s and introduced to the UK in the late 1950s. In its most common form, it is used in the construction of lightweight thermal blocks.https://ww3.rics.org/uk/en/journals/built-environment-journal/reinforced-autoclaved-aerated-concrete-planks.html
Look, don't blame the Tories, Sweden started it!
Cheek!1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I think she knew fine well that they were still recording.Pross said:
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.0 -
Then doff your hat and say well played to her.First.Aspect said:
I think she knew fine well that they were still recording.Pross said:
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.0 -
straight out of 'the thick of it', she even looks a bit like nicola murrayfeelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
if life imitates art, she'll soon be party leader (of the opposition)my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
Given the labour attack line is already juxtaposing the headline that hundreds of schools are literally crumbling and have had to be shut down next to her saying what a great job she's done, I doubt it's "well played"TheBigBean said:
Then doff your hat and say well played to her.First.Aspect said:
I think she knew fine well that they were still recording.Pross said:
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.0 -
Well she has thrown everyone else under the bus, which is nice.rick_chasey said:
Given the labour attack line is already juxtaposing the headline that hundreds of schools are literally crumbling and have had to be shut down next to her saying what a great job she's done, I doubt it's "well played"TheBigBean said:
Then doff your hat and say well played to her.First.Aspect said:
I think she knew fine well that they were still recording.Pross said:
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.0 -
Gove lookin like a man praying that people forgot he had the education role for years.focuszing723 said:0 -
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The drug trade? Although I don't know so that could be sh!t too.rick_chasey said:Is there anything Gove has been involved with that isn’t now sh!t?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48572982The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You can only play the hand you've been dealt.rick_chasey said:
Given the labour attack line is already juxtaposing the headline that hundreds of schools are literally crumbling and have had to be shut down next to her saying what a great job she's done, I doubt it's "well played"TheBigBean said:
Then doff your hat and say well played to her.First.Aspect said:
I think she knew fine well that they were still recording.Pross said:
She needs to dress up in a costume and carry a sword if she wants that. I actually quite like her too, she does a better job of answering questions than most of them but whilst I can understand her frustration of having to take the flak on this she could always have turned down the offer to join the Cabinet in this laughing stock of a Government and kept her dignity.First.Aspect said:
I quite like the honesty. Next leader in waiting right there.feelgoodlost said:
It gets better...First.Aspect said:Did anyone hear the (I think) education secretary on r4 this morning.
She appeared to suggest that she was being hyper cautious because some ceilings indicated as not.in imminent need.of repair had in fact collapsed.
Unless honesty is not something the party wants.
Poor woman had to defend how Sunak as chancellor took a report recommending thst the rate of school repairs be doubled or quadrupled, and decided to half it.
Absolutely unfair to blame him now though.0
