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The advertisers got the memo.0 -
orraloon said:
True. Politiconumbnut obvs doesn't know what is a pint nor what the thing he isn't holding as a prop would cost.elbowloh said:
The question is still valid. It's the only question worth asking politicians, or at least that's what I'm led to believe by breakfast TVorraloon said:That's not a pint of milk, it's a 2 pint container.
Gosh. John Crace pretty much had a day off, and quoted Walker verbatim instead. 'Bonkers' doesn't cover it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/25/tory-milkman-delivers-speech-surreal-even-by-commons-standards1 -
https://www.channel4.com/news/this-has-gone-on-long-enough-sir-charles-walker-mp-frustrated-over-covid-powers
After viewing this clearly the bloke shouldn't be an MP. 'I don't do needles', Christ!0 -
Funny how raising an issue about the unnecessary focus on flags at a time of national crisis means we hate our country.Dorset_Boy said:But then there are one or two who seem to absolutely loathe everything about the country in which you have chosen to live!
Funny also how so many of the flagshaggers seem to hate their fellow Britons. Perhaps it's them who should move.
It's just a hill. Get over it.0 -
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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If it splits the nationalist voterjsterry said:
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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PR though.rick_chasey said:
If it splits the nationalist voterjsterry said:
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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I meant in Westminsterkingstongraham said:
PR though.rick_chasey said:
If it splits the nationalist voterjsterry said:
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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Doubt it would make the slightest difference in Westminster.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Tricky for the snp to get a Westminster majority in any situation.rick_chasey said:
I meant in Westminsterkingstongraham said:
PR though.rick_chasey said:
If it splits the nationalist voterjsterry said:
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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You are not stupid you can work out how splitting the snp vote affects Westminster (clue, the SNP may lose some seats to, I dunno, labour?)kingstongraham said:
Tricky for the snp to get a Westminster majority in any situation.rick_chasey said:
I meant in Westminsterkingstongraham said:
PR though.rick_chasey said:
If it splits the nationalist voterjsterry said:
Have you seen that Salmond is starting his own pro-independence party. 🤦🏻♂️ Just what Scotland needs.Stevo_666 said:
Me too. Is this what they really mean by Scottish independence?ballysmate said:Shorty, you can put me in the shocked column as well. Whoda thunk it?
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So what?0
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Collapse of labour in Scotland / rise of SNP has had a big big effect on Westminster.kingstongraham said:So what?
Tories are not doing *that well* if you break down the voting numbers.0 -
Not if SNP/Alba get their way first. 😉john80 said:
Switch 40 SNP seats for the historic 40 labour ones and Kier has a significantly easier time getting into power.pblakeney said:Doubt it would make the slightest difference in Westminster.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I thought Alba was a cheap electronics brand?0
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Seeing as we're discussing Salmond's epic midlife crisis in this thread, this is some Olympic standard trolling.
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It would be ironic if Sturgeon/Salmon gave the tories an almost permanent majoritypblakeney said:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.0 -
Lee Hawthorne, 41, resigned from Gloucester City Council in April 2020, after he was arrested in July 2019orraloon said:Minor Tories gonna Tory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-56562211
Why did it take him 10 months to resign?0 -
You have to maximise your redundancy.elbowloh said:
Lee Hawthorne, 41, resigned from Gloucester City Council in April 2020, after he was arrested in July 2019orraloon said:Minor Tories gonna Tory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-56562211
Why did it take him 10 months to resign?0 -
and another 11 to get sentencedelbowloh said:
Lee Hawthorne, 41, resigned from Gloucester City Council in April 2020, after he was arrested in July 2019orraloon said:Minor Tories gonna Tory.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-56562211
Why did it take him 10 months to resign?
Maybe he is a mate of Chope and his protest was to get him off0 -
It would last for quite a while - probably long enough for me to retire. Labour won't easily get back to the Blairite centre left ground, there are too many entrenched hard left elements. Starmer has his work cut out.morstar said:
I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.
And yep if in the process it kills off old school socialism in the UK, all well and good."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Labour can't get to the Blairite centre left because that would involve leapfrogging BorisStevo_666 said:
It would last for quite a while - probably long enough for me to retire. Labour won't easily get back to the Blairite centre left ground, there are too many entrenched hard left elements. Starmer has his work cut out.morstar said:
I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.
And yep if in the process it kills off old school socialism in the UK, all well and good.0 -
If you subscribe to that theory then it could all be part of the Boris masterplan to keep Labour isolated on the left and out of power. Shove 'em left by putting Jezza and the trots in for a bit, then keep 'em hemmed in there. I've done my bit, now it's over to Borissurrey_commuter said:
Labour can't get to the Blairite centre left because that would involve leapfrogging BorisStevo_666 said:
It would last for quite a while - probably long enough for me to retire. Labour won't easily get back to the Blairite centre left ground, there are too many entrenched hard left elements. Starmer has his work cut out.morstar said:
I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.
And yep if in the process it kills off old school socialism in the UK, all well and good. If it works, could be a bit of political genius? "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Depends what winning looks like, to me it is not Miliband with a blue rosetteStevo_666 said:
If you subscribe to that theory then it could all be part of the Boris masterplan to keep Labour isolated on the left and out of power. Shove 'em left by putting Jezza and the trots in for a bit, then keep 'em hemmed in there. I've done my bit, now it's over to Borissurrey_commuter said:
Labour can't get to the Blairite centre left because that would involve leapfrogging BorisStevo_666 said:
It would last for quite a while - probably long enough for me to retire. Labour won't easily get back to the Blairite centre left ground, there are too many entrenched hard left elements. Starmer has his work cut out.morstar said:
I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.
And yep if in the process it kills off old school socialism in the UK, all well and good. If it works, could be a bit of political genius?0 -
🤣Stevo_666 said:
If you subscribe to that theory then it could all be part of the Boris masterplan to keep Labour isolated on the left and out of power. Shove 'em left by putting Jezza and the trots in for a bit, then keep 'em hemmed in there. I've done my bit, now it's over to Borissurrey_commuter said:
Labour can't get to the Blairite centre left because that would involve leapfrogging BorisStevo_666 said:
It would last for quite a while - probably long enough for me to retire. Labour won't easily get back to the Blairite centre left ground, there are too many entrenched hard left elements. Starmer has his work cut out.morstar said:
I agree it would definitely skew things massively in favour of the tories in the short to mid term.Stevo_666 said:
It wouldn’t be permanent though. Either Labour would have to return to a more centrist position or they would be surpassed as the main opposition.
The electorate won’t just accept one party rule as (more) corruption would be inevitable. It would definitely marginalise old school socialism though.
Remember that Tony Blair led a centrist labour government while the tories were busy being incompetent.
And yep if in the process it kills off old school socialism in the UK, all well and good. If it works, could be a bit of political genius?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I'm sure we are all shocked by the Arcuri story.
Is it just that the odd £100,000 isn't deemed proper corruption these days?0
