keeping hens in the garden
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We are buying a house with a very big garden, semi-urban area.
I am thinking to keep our own hens in the garden (in their own small cheap-and-cheerful house), to get fresh eggs and to get fun. My 8yr-old child is already very excited abut the idea.
I understand there will be some work, cleaning, bla bla, whatever, ...
Not sure how happy the neighbours will be, perhaps I can occasionally bribe them with a few fresh eggs.
You guys have any experience with this kind of thing...?
I am thinking to keep our own hens in the garden (in their own small cheap-and-cheerful house), to get fresh eggs and to get fun. My 8yr-old child is already very excited abut the idea.
I understand there will be some work, cleaning, bla bla, whatever, ...
Not sure how happy the neighbours will be, perhaps I can occasionally bribe them with a few fresh eggs.
You guys have any experience with this kind of thing...?
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Hens are pretty straightforward as long as you're prepared against foxes.
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If/when they pass away I'll get some new ones, I guess hens are ridicolously cheap to buy.
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Yes, this is my concern at the moment, the only one for now.
My mum was many years nurse-manager of an operation theatre and she tought me hygiene etc etc, so I want to keep rats/mice away.
And if they do roam free around the garden, sure they will damage the veg... not happy about that!
But cleaning them out is necessary and chicken poo is vile stiff. You can line their little house with old newspaper to make it easier. Ours spend much of the day sunning themselves on our doormat and making a mess so we need to sweep there every day. Even then, it is common for us to step in chicken poo and inadvertently walk it through the house.
Fox attacks are really upsetting for chicken owners. We are lucky in that we have a dog, an enclosed dog proof garden and lots of pheasants in the surrounding area to provide fox food so we have not suffered any attacks. Our neighbour have.
They do attract rats. Several people round our way have chickens. We all have rats.
Chickens can suddenly get ill and die for no obvious reason. Do you have the sort of garden in which you can bury or incinerate a dead chicken? Are you willing to put a suffering chicken out of its misery?
Do you have neighbours willing to feed and lock up your chickens at night if you are away from home?
If allowed to roam free in your garden chickens will do damage. They will destroy flowers, dig up bulbs and sprouting flowers and veg, eat strawberries etc and generally make a mess.
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but i do believe getting chickens now will mean you are bound by Avian flu regs, which apply to all chicken owners, not just poultry farmers....
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bird ... of-england
Some places that you can buy hens from will "recycle" them when they get to the end of their laying days. We clipped the wings of ours (really easily done with some strong scissors) to prevent them flapping up and over the 3' high mesh fence that we enclosed them with.
One last thing, depending on where you are, you may find that it is not permitted (in your deeds or local bye law) to keep hens in your garden - so may be an idea to check first
Other than the odd clucking sound, audible if you are in the garden sometimes at the weekend, if the wind is blowing in the right direction and there are no police helicopters hovering about or sirens going off or house alarms, car alarms, children playing etc etc etc ... I would never know they had them
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/avia ... 17-to-2018
While they were here, my little girl said one day, "Daddy there's a big mouse on the fence."
Yum, rabbit eggs.
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Mercia Man gave some good advice above.
Further to that, my keep method was a lot different. I only had two hens.
I had a shed in the garden onto the end which i built a chicken run. This would have been around 4 feet out from the shed, possibly 6 long and 4 high (forget if I could get in there or not to stand up.) this was a framework of timber with chicken wire over. Inside the shed I built a counter, around 3 feet deep, running along the same wall as the outside run, and normal work-top height. The counter had a hinged lid I think, and also a hatch to get to the inside. It was chicken wire too, connected to the outside run with a ramp, about a third of it was a nest box. So, I didn't lose an entire shed, I had room to keep stuff, and even a bit of workbench for gardening type tasks.
The inside part was fill with wood shavings, I replenished these as they got dirty, and they DO get very dirty. Every few months, I had to go in there and remove the entire lot and start again, horrible job.]
At night, I would go into the shed, the hens would come to see me, and I would drop the cover to shut them in for the night. (IMPORTANT I had to redesign this to work from inside the shed, they would follow me back outside otherwise
If you're worried about rats, then you are living in the wrong place. If you have a garden, it's almost certain that the buggers are there already. I had mice a plenty in the chicken house, they used to try to live in my empty beehive parts which were stored in the same shed.
The hens you want used to be called ISA Browns, they are the type used in battery farms (I think) and are great egg laying machines. We had more than enough for the two of us from two hens, and were able to give some away. Some people pick up ex-free range chickens at a year or so old. The local place to me sold them at around 75p recently, so not eggspensive
The older I get, the better I was.
Get an EGGLU...Plastic hen hut...easier to keep clean than a wooden hen hut and your hens are less prone to mites. They are pretty expensive but last for ages..Yiu can also fit an automatic door opener which is handy if your out at work...
Minus points - like all livestock..when you are on holiday you will need someone to come in twice a day every day to feed and water, let them out and put them to bed at night..
We have 6 ex battery hens...cost £4 each and they give us one or two eggs a day each. ( we had three each once but that was in the summer and they were young then)..down to one each in winter..But they keep the garden free of slugs and bugs --- but keep them away from bedding plants and they will tech them to death !!
have fun !
We bought a larger "eggloo". It is very well thought out and cleanable. Very durable. We've got 9 hens. Very tame, beg for scraps and let you pick them up. Ours free range and get locked up at dusk. We have lost a few in a couple years. Risk we take for them to have their fun free ranging.
Research and don't buy any breeds that are more prone to go "broody".
If you want to clear a piece of land of everything green - just put chickens on them!
Make a concrete hard stand for the chicken shed as it's easier to clean and rotate the run around that stand as a central point (if you have the room) and as a mount for the hut. Chicken wire mesh is a PITA. Personally, get some weld mesh and some posts to make a run. It's more robust and easier to shift.
A proper hut won't allow foxes in and anyway, ferrets and stoats are far more destructive and more difficult to keep out.
Chicken censored does break down, so a midden where it's mixed with everything else for composting does the trick but it needs to be turned regularly so that rats don't nest in it and anyway, composting requires the rotation of decaying matter - it's not a methane production plant.
Cockerels. We had one we called George. George was pretty unsuccessful at being Dad as all the hens were proper (vaccinated) hybrids but he kept them happy, was always last in to the hut shepherding them in and out and he was the gentlest Cockerel you could ask for. We could pick him up and treat the scales on his feet without any obstinacy or hostility. It's a fallacy that Cockerels are mostly aggressive. Anyway, 1 of them keeps hens happy. If you happen to get an aggressive one (buy a cockerel chick and hand feed it/handle it), just casserole him.
With the price of point of lay pullets, mite treatment (paraffin), the odd vet bill, the price of the chicken run and the shed, broody chickens nesting, layers mash, remember this: A chicken always dies in debt.
We did let them out into the garden for a run around, but beware as they scratch constantly and will eat just about anything, including mice. I’ve seen them tear one apart in seconds. If it’s a really big garden and you haven’t got too many then you’ll get away with letting them roam in the daytime, but they’ll still eat whatever they fancy so you’ll find some stuff gets destroyed.
We used to give them kitchen scraps. You've never seen a roast chicken carcass decimated so quickly!
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