The C40 conundrum...

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    shirley_basso said:

    Carbon is more winter friendly than metal, anyway

    'Tis true.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    pblakeney said:

    Shame it's just a plastic one. 😉
    Nice!

    Plastic adorned with Record 10.


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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    A threaded one:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Record-1-English-Threaded-Alloy-Road-Cycle-Bike-Headset/203182208201?epid=524465354&hash=item2f4e9a74c9:g:qJMAAOSw1YlfsWVV
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • lincolndave
    lincolndave Posts: 9,441
    Cheers Pinno, I have just had look at their website I see your c40 is in their gallery, I will contact them later.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    edited November 2020
    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    A threaded one:
    Thanks, but I need threadless.
    Just thinking though, would the races and bearings be identical? 🤔
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    edited November 2020
    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    A threaded one:
    Thanks, but I need threadless.
    Just thinking though, would the races and bearings be identical? 🤔
    I knew you wanted threadless but yes, I was considering using the races and bearings from it.

    I'll let you know :blush:
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • paul_the_pedaller
    paul_the_pedaller Posts: 135
    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    A threaded one:
    Thanks, but I need threadless.
    Just thinking though, would the races and bearings be identical? 🤔
    I did that years ago, only part that was different was the top cap.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    paul_the_pedaller said:

    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    pblakeney said:

    pinno said:

    Tried to source an NOS 1" record headset for 'threadless fork' as it used to be.
    Second hand one's selling for £100+.
    So replaced the bearings in the races and it will have to do for the time being.

    I have the same predicament. Looks like Campag have stopped producing them.
    Will see how long the races last but looking increasingly like non Italian replacements in the long term. 😢
    A threaded one:
    Thanks, but I need threadless.
    Just thinking though, would the races and bearings be identical? 🤔
    I did that years ago, only part that was different was the top cap.
    Missed the boat on that sale but thanks for the info for future reference.
    Mine is currently stripped down but I've not thoroughly inspected the races yet.
    Bearings themselves are fairly cheap.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,865
    I was looking at used Record headsets (threaded) on the Bay of Shite for the old Italian frame and some of them were asking stupid money and didn't have clear pictures of the bearing surfaces. Can you imagine paying £100 for a used headset that is pitted and feels rough with new bearings.
    I stuck with the Tange one that I had.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    edited November 2020
    veronese68 said:

    I was looking at used Record headsets (threaded) on the Bay of Shite for the old Italian frame and some of them were asking stupid money and didn't have clear pictures of the bearing surfaces. Can you imagine paying £100 for a used headset that is pitted and feels rough with new bearings.
    I stuck with the Tange one that I had.

    Just FYI as I looked last night. £51.55 delivered new.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Record-1-Inch-Threaded-Headset-EC30-25-4-24tpi-EC30-26/201498389279?epid=28002371458&hash=item2eea3d6b1f:g:PF0AAOSwnk1dy7hb
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,865
    pblakeney said:

    veronese68 said:

    I was looking at used Record headsets (threaded) on the Bay of Shite for the old Italian frame and some of them were asking stupid money and didn't have clear pictures of the bearing surfaces. Can you imagine paying £100 for a used headset that is pitted and feels rough with new bearings.
    I stuck with the Tange one that I had.

    Just FYI as I looked last night. £51.55 delivered new.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Record-1-Inch-Threaded-Headset-EC30-25-4-24tpi-EC30-26/201498389279?epid=28002371458&hash=item2eea3d6b1f:g:PF0AAOSwnk1dy7hb
    Ooh thanks, I just went out to the garage, found the forks, found my thread gauge and realised I didn't have my reading glasses. Found the one that fitted and brought the thread gauge back in to confirm it is indeed 24tpi.
    I hadn't looked for some time as the frame got bent in May. But if the insurance coughs it will be fixed better than new. If not at least I have a headset.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488









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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    Nice! Need to sort out the cages though. 😉
    My Colnago would currently fit in a family suitcase. A bit of a faff but would save a fortune. 🤣
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Agree on cages.

    What's the deal with the bars - why do the drops not run parallel to the ground?
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    pinno said:

    Do I finally go and get it re-sprayed and restore it to it's former glory? There's also a few bits to sort out: threaded downtube mounts and remnants of bottle cage bolts in the holes which means that I had to shorten 4 bolts and screw them in gently as well as deploying a couple of cable ties. A bit ignominious for such a gem.


    But... when I get it back, all pristine, I cannot possibly return it to it's former job as a winter bike, replete with crud catchers. So that means N=1 which equals 4. Yet, it's such a lovely ride. It's a perfect winter bike.


    So if I get a cf frame off flea bay, what's out there that has good tyre clearance so that the eternal mud guard conundrum isn't an issue and what's going to give me that velvet ride*?


    *Apart from Heida Reed.

    I just googled Heida Reed,

    Thank you.

    That is all

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    shirley_basso said:

    Agree on cages.

    What's the deal with the bars - why do the drops not run parallel to the ground?

    They are old school Cinelli Criterium bars. I hardly spend any time on them.

    I like the cages.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Blimey that's nice. Big het.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Surely you can't sleep knowing the bike has odd cages?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    You can solve mismatched cages by removing one of them.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    First.Aspect said:

    You can solve mismatched cages by removing one of them.

    Or I can just be happy.
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Once the cage is removed / matched, then yes.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    pinno said:

    First.Aspect said:

    You can solve mismatched cages by removing one of them.

    Or I can just be happy.
    The blue one has to go.

    I have a blue six-13 of similar vintage. I will send you my address.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    Look you pedantic f*kkers, i've ordered 2 black Elite Ciussi's.


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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,865
    I liked it as it was
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,480
    I must say that I do like Elite SS cages. 😎
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    You going to sort out the state of your lawn as well?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,488
    MattFalle said:

    You going to sort out the state of your lawn as well?

    No. Sod off. (Ha ha)
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,379
    All keen cyclists should have an overgrown garden.

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