You Choose

asprilla
asprilla Posts: 8,440
edited September 2017 in Commuting chat
So, obviously I'm looking at new bikes and I think I know which one I want but there are two options and I'm conflicted.

I seek the seek the mind's advice.

Which would you choose: option one with Ultegra hydro discs and mechanical shifting, or option two with Ultegra Di2 and rim brakes?

I already have a bike with Ultegra hydro mechanical group set.
Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
Sun - Cervelo R3
Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,562
    When will you be riding said bike? Fine sunny days only? If so, are you emigrating?
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Veronese68 wrote:
    When will you be riding said bike? Fine sunny days only? If so, are you emigrating?

    It will be the designated "best bike". Not sure that means the apocryphal "dry miles only".
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    If it's best bike I'd be tempted by Di2 and rims.
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Di2 and rims, you already have the discs for wet days.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Rim and Sram Etap.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,562
    I think disc brakes are the mutts nuts as you know, I'd go Di2 and rims in this case for the same reason as those above.
    We could get into the whole argument of swapping wheels between bikes, but lets be honest how often do you really need to do that. If you need to swap a wheel just take another bike instead.
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    I'd go for the Di2 and rims. Especially as it's the good weather bike. What do you have in mind?
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    I'd get Dura Ace.
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  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Ben6899 wrote:
    I'd get Dura Ace.

    I go along with Ben. The nicest riding / gear changing bike that I have is rim brake with old Dura Ace di2. I picked parts up on Ebay for considerably less than my Ultegra Di2 / Hydro set up. Any hint of rain and I use disc bike - otherwise for pure summer joy-rides DA/rim brake

    The benefit of discs is that rims stop being "consumables" and you can spend a decent amount on good rims that will last as long as you want.
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    DA isn't an option.. Unfortunately.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    Campag :D
  • Hydraulic discs, every time.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,562
    London-Red wrote:
    Campag :D
    ...and a new tool kit. :wink:

    But, yes I fancy a bike with Campag.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    London-Red wrote:
    Campag :D

    Well yes, I agree. Or SRAM (as long as it's Red), but I didn't want to muddy the waters too much.

    I would honestly scour the internet for DA bargains rather than go for Ultegra.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    J_MCD wrote:
    I'd go for the Di2 and rims. Especially as it's the good weather bike. What do you have in mind?

    Scott Solace.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    Veronese68 wrote:
    London-Red wrote:
    Campag :D
    ...and a new tool kit. :wink:

    Nah, free local tool hire works well 8)

    Saying that, I seem to remember a bottle of plonk being involved on one occasion... Should have been beer. My bad.
  • gabriel959
    gabriel959 Posts: 4,227
    For a best bike, which will be sparingly used in wet weather then I would go for Di2 and rims.
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  • Veronese68 wrote:
    London-Red wrote:
    Campag :D
    ...and a new tool kit. :wink:

    But, yes I fancy a bike with Campag.

    Well that's settled. Didn't take long after all.

    BTW: rim brakes and mechanical gruppo. E-shifting is a fantastic solution to a problem no one has been able to identify. And disc brakes have no place on a best bike. Or a road bike, for that matter.

    #luddite
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  • Di2 definitely. DA is seriously not worth the extra money
  • j_mcd
    j_mcd Posts: 473
    If you choose Di2, make sure you get the new battery pack with the WiFi capabilities.

    I didn't (sad face emoji)
    Giant Defy Advanced 0 - Best
    Planet X London Road - Wet
    Montague Fit - Foldy thing that rarely gets used these days
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    J_MCD wrote:
    If you choose Di2, make sure you get the new battery pack with the WiFi capabilities.

    I didn't (sad face emoji)

    I already have the group set with the older one.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,062
    Veronese68 wrote:
    London-Red wrote:
    Campag :D
    ...and a new tool kit. :wink:

    But, yes I fancy a bike with Campag.

    Well that's settled. Didn't take long after all.

    BTW: rim brakes and mechanical gruppo. E-shifting is a fantastic solution to a problem no one has been able to identify. And disc brakes have no place on a best bike. Or a road bike, for that matter.

    #luddite

    you forgot inner tubes are for the weak :roll:
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    I was about to call about a Scott Solace I could strip down and then I accidentally...

    Cervelo_R3_Frameset_15_zps7qks0dat.jpg
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,562
    Whoops. I guess you're going rim brakes then.
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Whoops. I guess you're going rim brakes then.

    Yeah. Next dilemma is crankset. My Stages is 105 so I have 105 cranks across all my other bikes so do I get one for this or do I go a bit more up market.....
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Rotor
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Rotor

    But then I wouldn't be able to use my powermeter.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Ah I misunderstood, didn't realise you were looking to fit the PM.

    Dura Ace. ;)
    Ben

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  • Asprilla wrote:
    I was about to call about a Scott Solace I could strip down and then I accidentally...

    Cervelo_R3_Frameset_15_zps7qks0dat.jpg

    Awaits a "bodge or hack" picture on GCN for fixing hydraulic disc brakes. ;)
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Ok, I've decided to with a Rotor crank and q-rings (used them before an really liked them) but should I get a 30mm axle or a 24mm? If I go for a 24mm I can swap to a Shimano or Sram later with no issues. If I go for 30mm then I have no idea what the advantages are but I'd need to change the BB or get an adapter if I wanted to change. Given I don't throw down megawattzors is there any reason to go for the 30mm version (it's 50g lighter).
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX