Vuelta 2017:Stage 21: Arroyomolinos - Madrid 117.6KM *Spoilers*

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Stage 21: Arroyomolinos - Madrid 117.6KM

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dabber

A big "Thank You" Blazing saddles for all these Spoiler threads for the Vuelta..... much appreciated.

salsiccia1

Dabber wrote:

A big "Thank You" Blazing saddles for all these Spoiler threads for the Vuelta..... much appreciated.

Hear, hear

6wheels

Same from me.

blazing_saddles

Dabber wrote:

A big "Thank You" Blazing saddles for all these Spoiler threads for the Vuelta..... much appreciated.

As are your (and others) kind words.
It's nice to be appreciated now and again.

RichN95.

So the only outstanding issue is the Points Jersey.

The situation is Froome has a 26 point lead over Trentin (I'm discounting Nibali who is only 25 points behind Froome)

There are 25 points for the stage win and 4,2,1 at the bonus sprint. Points for the stage go down to 15th place.

specialgueststar

Trentin in the break and the final sprint......QS enage their 'BELIEVE' mode

RichN95.

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Trentin in the break and the final sprint......QS enage their 'BELIEVE' mode

More likely QS make sure there isn't a break at the sprint point.

blazing_saddles

RichN95 wrote:

So the only outstanding issue is the Points Jersey.

The situation is Froome has a 26 point lead over Trentin (I'm discounting Nibali who is only 25 points behind Froome)

There are 25 points for the stage win and 4,2,1 at the bonus sprint. Points for the stage go down to 15th place.

And on that subject, It clearly states in the stage communique that the cut off for a cat 5 stage is 12%, which in yesterday's case was 25'-23".
(see page 47)

http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/cyclis ... -en-v3.pdf

Yet nobody got any penalty.

RichN95.

Blazing Saddles wrote:

And on that subject, It clearly states in the stage communique that the cut off for a cat 5 stage is 12%, which in yesterday's case was 25'-23".
(see page 47)

http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/cyclis ... -en-v3.pdf

Yet nobody got any penalty.

They might have extended it though. Adam Hansen said that they had extended the limit for stage 15 a few days before after intention by the rider's union. And that was a similar stage to yesterday

http://www.velon.cc/en/news/2017/09/ada ... s-stage-15

specialgueststar

RichN95 wrote:

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Trentin in the break and the final sprint......QS enage their 'BELIEVE' mode

More likely QS make sure there isn't a break at the sprint point.

Control the race and the final sprint?

RichN95.

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Trentin in the break and the final sprint......QS enage their 'BELIEVE' mode

More likely QS make sure there isn't a break at the sprint point.

Control the race and the final sprint?

It's a short race. Or just let a two man break go. Trentin only needs one point at the sprint.

inseine

Is there any desire for anyone to nick the intermediate sprint points off Trentin (assuming he's at the head of the race)? They're just going to let him have them I'd have thought.

RichN95.

inseine wrote:

Is there any desire for anyone to nick the intermediate sprint points off Trentin (assuming he's at the head of the race)? They're just going to let him have them I'd have thought.

Who knows. Does Froome even care about the jersey? If he'd beaten Poels yesterday it would be his by now.

silvergrenade

RichN95 wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

And on that subject, It clearly states in the stage communique that the cut off for a cat 5 stage is 12%, which in yesterday's case was 25'-23".
(see page 47)

http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/cyclis ... -en-v3.pdf

Yet nobody got any penalty.

They might have extended it though. Adam Hansen said that they had extended the limit for stage 15 a few days before after intention by the rider's union. And that was a similar stage to yesterday

http://www.velon.cc/en/news/2017/09/ada ... s-stage-15

They can extend it...but it has to happen prior to the stage.

27 riders missed it, and although the rules allow extension of the limit, it is "only in exceptional, unforeseeable cases of force majeure".

Losing the Green jersey favourite, the Polka dot jersey leader, and the majority of those who will meaningfully sprint today would be unfortunate, but is not exceptional and unforeseeable.

Did something serious happen to impede the later finishers, or did they just hope no-one would notice and decide that it was not worth the hassle?

I find it rather bizarre tbh.

Richmond Racer 2

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Dabber wrote:

A big "Thank You" Blazing saddles for all these Spoiler threads for the Vuelta..... much appreciated.

As are your (and others) kind words.
It's nice to be appreciated now and again.

Diolch Saddles, you da best

Richmond Racer 2

lovely sprint there from Jolien D'hoore to beat Rivera and win the Madrid Challenge

awavey

Madrid Challenge

1. D'Hoore (@WiggleHigh5)
2. Rivera (@TeamSunweb)
3. Fournier (@FDJ_NAqui_Fut)

lots of punctures and mechanicals on that Madrid finishing circuit, might be of some concern

Vino'sGhost

silvergrenade wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

And on that subject, It clearly states in the stage communique that the cut off for a cat 5 stage is 12%, which in yesterday's case was 25'-23".
(see page 47)

http://netstorage.lequipe.fr/ASO/cyclis ... -en-v3.pdf

Yet nobody got any penalty.

They might have extended it though. Adam Hansen said that they had extended the limit for stage 15 a few days before after intention by the rider's union. And that was a similar stage to yesterday

http://www.velon.cc/en/news/2017/09/ada ... s-stage-15

They can extend it...but it has to happen prior to the stage.

27 riders missed it, and although the rules allow extension of the limit, it is "only in exceptional, unforeseeable cases of force majeure".

Losing the Green jersey favourite, the Polka dot jersey leader, and the majority of those who will meaningfully sprint today would be unfortunate, but is not exceptional and unforeseeable.

Did something serious happen to impede the later finishers, or did they just hope no-one would notice and decide that it was not worth the hassle?

I find it rather bizarre tbh.

Something serious happened alright.... The Angrilu

Vino'sGhost

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Dabber wrote:

A big "Thank You" Blazing saddles for all these Spoiler threads for the Vuelta..... much appreciated.

As are your (and others) kind words.
It's nice to be appreciated now and again.

Diolch Saddles, you da best

Im feelin the lurrrve.

Good threadwork Blazing

RichN95.

Odd Christian Eiking has been sent home by FdJ for 'improper behaviour'

(maybe he laughed at Madiot signing La Marseillaise)

RonB

Par excellence Blazing. Thanks for all your work on these threads.

Just wondered, other than Bertie, is this anyone else's last GT?

Mad_Malx

^was Zubeldia here?

RonB

Sure his last race was in Paris.

(But it is always worth checking the list just in case)

Richmond Racer 2

RonB wrote:

Sure his last race was in Paris.

(But it is always worth checking the list just in case)

Twas San Sebastian

yourpaceormine

Sky kit looks quite pleasant with red bits on.

twotoebenny

What is the point of this last stage? It's the same with tdf... does ma nut in!!!

lettingthedaysgoby

TwoToeBenny wrote:

What is the point of this last stage? It's the same with tdf... does ma nut in!!!

Well, this one at least will decide a jersey.

daninexile

Surprised that Sky are seemingly giving it go by upping the pace

No_Ta_Doctor

Sky sending out attacks to defend the points jersey :-D Making QS work for it!

No_Ta_Doctor

Trentin needs the stage win + points in the intermediate.