Vuelta 2017: Stage 16: Circuito de Navarra - Logroño 40.2kms ITT *Spoilers*

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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    larkim wrote:
    Froome on 47 flat I reckon?

    Fractionally over! :D
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Definitely knows how to pace these, 23" down at 1st check to 30" up at the finish
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Froome looking like opening some big time gaps on his GC rivals and taking the stage...
    They think it's all over - it is now*.

    Froome goes 29s up on Kelderman to take the stage.

    *probably.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Bad guesswork on my part. Missed out that cruicial 0.51s
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  • larkim
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    He looks happy!
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.

    It's ok... the points I get today can net off yours from the day Froome won earlier and I forgot to get my pick in...
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451
    Froome looks very happy with that.

    Decent rides by Kelderman, Nibali, Zakarin and Contador to ship less than a minute. Wout Poels at 1'11" was a good effort too
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Froome giving wee fist bumps...
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Provisional GC

    1. GBRFROOME Christopher 21 TEAM SKY 62h 53' 25''
    2. ITANIBALI Vincenzo 151 BAHRAIN - MERIDA 62h 55' 23'' + 01' 58''
    3. NEDKELDERMAN Wilco 61 TEAM SUNWEB 62h 56' 05'' + 02' 40''
    4. RUSZAKARIN Ilnur 101 TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN 62h 56' 32'' + 03' 07''
    5. ESPCONTADOR Alberto 1 TREK - SEGAFREDO 62h 58' 23'' + 04' 58''
    6. COLLOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 136 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 58' 50'' + 05' 25''
    7. ITAARU Fabio 131 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 59' 52'' + 06' 27''
    8. NEDPOELS Wout 27 TEAM SKY 62h 59' 58'' + 06' 33''
    9. COLCHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban 41 ORICA - SCOTT 63h 00' 05'' + 06' 40''
    10. CANWOODS Michael 91 CANNONDALE DRAPAC PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM 63h 00' 31'' + 07' 06''
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  • bobmcstuff
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    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
    Shut up!

    Least I didn't put down Dennis last night then have him drop out, that would have been annoying too.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,031
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
    Shut up!

    Least I didn't put down Dennis last night then have him drop out, that would have been annoying too.

    I just need Lopez to find 5 mins or so on Angliru.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
    Shut up!

    Least I didn't put down Dennis last night then have him drop out, that would have been annoying too.
    so, who would you have put for ToB? Just to add to the pain.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    LOOK AWAY!

    DO NOT LOOK AT ARU ON A TT BIKE!

    Sorry I was in a meeting unable to post the obligatory warning.

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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    larkim wrote:
    Provisional GC

    1. GBRFROOME Christopher 21 TEAM SKY 62h 53' 25''
    2. ITANIBALI Vincenzo 151 BAHRAIN - MERIDA 62h 55' 23'' + 01' 58''
    3. NEDKELDERMAN Wilco 61 TEAM SUNWEB 62h 56' 05'' + 02' 40''
    4. RUSZAKARIN Ilnur 101 TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN 62h 56' 32'' + 03' 07''
    5. ESPCONTADOR Alberto 1 TREK - SEGAFREDO 62h 58' 23'' + 04' 58''
    6. COLLOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 136 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 58' 50'' + 05' 25''
    7. ITAARU Fabio 131 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 59' 52'' + 06' 27''
    8. NEDPOELS Wout 27 TEAM SKY 62h 59' 58'' + 06' 33''
    9. COLCHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban 41 ORICA - SCOTT 63h 00' 05'' + 06' 40''
    10. CANWOODS Michael 91 CANNONDALE DRAPAC PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM 63h 00' 31'' + 07' 06''

    I like some of those names - Itanibali, Canwoods, and Ned Kelderman is a favourite
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    edited September 2017
    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
    Shut up!

    Least I didn't put down Dennis last night then have him drop out, that would have been annoying too.
    so, who would you have put for ToB? Just to add to the pain.
    Urgh don't torment me...

    I haven't looked - probably Viviani?

    Edit: Oh Ewan won, that's good - after I picked him for stages 1 and 2 and he failed.

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  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    Yes, OMG! It's like all the Dutch people are named Ned!
  • Richmond Racer 2
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    TheBigBean wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Also I am so f*cking gutted I forgot PTP. Really annoyed with myself.
    it's not like there was a odds on certain stage winner.... :wink:
    Shut up!

    Least I didn't put down Dennis last night then have him drop out, that would have been annoying too.

    I just need Lopez to find 5 mins or so on Angliru.


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  • lettingthedaysgoby
    lettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,732
    Impressive stuff from Froome, perfectly paced.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Rather amused by Froome looking increasingly sheepish at the jerseys being awarded.
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  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Rather amused by Froome looking increasingly sheepish at the jerseys being awarded.

    I'd love him to win the lot, I haven't looked in the clinic for a while. :lol:
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Anyone noticed how David Millar's eyes move around randomly while he's talking like he's blind?

    He looks like David Blunkett.
  • Escher303
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    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Edit: Oh Ewan won, that's good - after I picked him for stages 1 and 2 and he failed.

    thanks for the spoiler
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    larkim wrote:
    Provisional GC

    1. GBRFROOME Christopher 21 TEAM SKY 62h 53' 25''
    2. ITANIBALI Vincenzo 151 BAHRAIN - MERIDA 62h 55' 23'' + 01' 58''
    3. NEDKELDERMAN Wilco 61 TEAM SUNWEB 62h 56' 05'' + 02' 40''
    4. RUSZAKARIN Ilnur 101 TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN 62h 56' 32'' + 03' 07''
    5. ESPCONTADOR Alberto 1 TREK - SEGAFREDO 62h 58' 23'' + 04' 58''
    6. COLLOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 136 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 58' 50'' + 05' 25''
    7. ITAARU Fabio 131 ASTANA PRO TEAM 62h 59' 52'' + 06' 27''
    8. NEDPOELS Wout 27 TEAM SKY 62h 59' 58'' + 06' 33''
    9. COLCHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban 41 ORICA - SCOTT 63h 00' 05'' + 06' 40''
    10. CANWOODS Michael 91 CANNONDALE DRAPAC PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM 63h 00' 31'' + 07' 06''

    Looks like the race is for third place now.
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  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Haha we all know not to say that!

    Froome was superb yesterday, Berti, Nibbles and Kelderman really broker their balls to post excellent times and CF still took a minute out of them. 1-2 years ago that would have been 2-3 minutes. What it highlights is to be a real GC contender you have to climb, sprint and TT... Chavez can climb and finish fast but clearly he can't TT. Aru can err.. and err.....
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Totally pointless stage, destroyed the GC race and as interesting as watching paint dry. Time trials in grand tours - firstly to give the big men a chance to take time on pure climbers - that hasn't applied for years if it ever has. Secondly a great day for spectators on the ground - which makes yesterday's choice very odd. Should have stuck another mountain stage in !
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    I had wondered whether there was much opinion like DeVlaeminck's about TTs. With lots of bunch riding in the GTs clearly having a day when every second counts is valuable, but in a tour like this year's Vuelta where every stage finish has seen different potential GC contenders posting different times (in small bunches) that sort of random distribution of time gaps was well in place prior to the TT (and could have been foreseen as such).

    It does show riders in different lights though. There are climbers who can TT. There are climbers who can't TT. There are riders who can TT well at the beginning of a GT and there are riders who can't TT well after 2 weeks of climbing. It adds validity to the perspective that the overall GC winner is someone who can do a broad range of cycling "disciplines".

    When you've got a good climber who can TT well, and who also maintains or improves form throughout a GT, you've effectively got the race favourite. But isn't that how it should be?
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    I might have made the TT a bit shorter but in general I don't mind having an ITT in a grand tour.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Another thing in favour of ITTs, is that is just one man alone. Team strength is no help to him
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