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  • rolf_frolf_f Posts: 15,962
    rjsterry wrote:
    veronese68 wrote:
    It's a good thing different people are attracted to different types, were it not for that a lot of us would be lonely.
    Or inbred.

    I honestly can't see what the fuss is about - Rolf or C4.
    I get tired of the holier than thou race to the bottom of the politically correct barrel. It does irritate me that some deranged baroness in the House of Lords (in article and programme) thinks it's OK to label me a racist because I have a specific taste in female beauty. And I dislike being labelled a white racist by someone by whose own standards could be labelled a black racist (the lass presenting the programme). I wonder where this is all leading to.
    But mainly it seemed like the basis for a fun thread!
    Faster than a tent.......
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,646 Lives Here
    Alex99 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    This is part of a larger ideologically driven agenda which includes any way that you can think of to be a victim and label someone else (usually white men) as the oppressor.
    As a white man who has just been labelled, I am not sure if this makes me an oppressor, or a victim. :?

    If you subscribe to this world view, then as a white man it is not possible for you to be the victim. It is quite disgusting.


    I'd suggest it's fairly unlikely you are, and that, even if you are, the injustices you suffer are likely to be smaller than if you weren't a white man in the UK.

    So i'll play to likelihood on that one.
  • mfinmfin Posts: 6,724
    Rolf F wrote:
    mfin wrote:
    I'm sure it doesn't help too that the group they chose did not seem representative of the public, I know people are thick, but how can any representative randomly selected group contain so many air-heads and pouting selfie takers?

    I think the problem may be that they are the only type of people willing to appear on TV talking about themselves on such a subject. I doubt more thoughtful introverted personalities are keen to get involved, probably could say the same about a lot of television involving the general public and it's likely what the program makers prefer anyway.

    Just to be clear, they hadn't been told that racism and dating was the specific subject matter. All the tests were supposedly of relatively vague purpose though you'd think they'd catch on when they had a load of models of diverse races (of both sexes) paraded in front of them wearing next to nothing and asked to rate them.

    Yes, they hadn't been told, I was gonna reply the same.

    Thinking about it perhaps that's the reason they needed thick people, so none of them worked out what it was about.
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 18,223
    Rolf F wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    veronese68 wrote:
    It's a good thing different people are attracted to different types, were it not for that a lot of us would be lonely.
    Or inbred.

    I honestly can't see what the fuss is about - Rolf or C4.
    I get tired of the holier than thou race to the bottom of the politically correct barrel. It does irritate me that some deranged baroness in the House of Lords (in article and programme) thinks it's OK to label me a racist because I have a specific taste in female beauty. And I dislike being labelled a white racist by someone by whose own standards could be labelled a black racist (the lass presenting the programme). I wonder where this is all leading to.
    But mainly it seemed like the basis for a fun thread!
    Labelling everyone as racist isn't particularly helpful because it diminishes the impact of actual discrimination and to some extent suggests people can't help it. On the other hand I think it is useful to recognise that we all have prejudices (whether we choose to admit them or not) and be aware that these will influence our judgement, sometimes negatively.

    As regards who you are attracted to, either someone does it for you or they don't, sometimes in spite of one's prejudices or professed preferences.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    I have almost zero sexual interest in dark skinned women, but really really like white women........... But not too white, and rarely ginger hair.

    Japanese women can be really cute, but generally I only find western women sexually attractive.

    Sexual attraction and finding someone attractive are two different things for me too.

    I don't really care what that makes me.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,273
    Carbonator wrote:
    I have almost zero sexual interest in dark skinned women, but really really like white women........... But not too white, and rarely ginger hair.

    Japanese women can be really cute, but generally I only find western women sexually attractive.

    Sexual attraction and finding someone attractive are two different things for me too.

    I don't really care what that makes me.

    ... I guess a racist... :wink:
  • sungodsungod Posts: 12,805
    seems the only way to avoid the accusation of racism/sexism/whateverism is do anything to anything, then you'll be called greedy

    just can't win
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 6,943
    sungod wrote:
    seems the only way to avoid the accusation of racism/sexism/whateverism is do anything to anything, then you'll be called greedy

    just can't win
    Well, you could. Could just say what a load of total bollox and get on with your life, in whatever direction that takes you.
  • xdocxdoc Posts: 331
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    xdoc wrote:
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:
    No. You have a lot in common with lesbians.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    Alex99 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    This is part of a larger ideologically driven agenda which includes any way that you can think of to be a victim and label someone else (usually white men) as the oppressor.
    As a white man who has just been labelled, I am not sure if this makes me an oppressor, or a victim. :?

    If you subscribe to this world view, then as a white man it is not possible for you to be the victim. It is quite disgusting.
    But I have just been labelled. People who subscribe to these views say labelling is wrong so I must be a victim. In their view. It's a confusing world.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    xdoc wrote:
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:

    If two guys start snogging right next to you in a bar and you leave, or you wince at gay (man on man) sex scenes in a movie, then no.

    You are a normal heterosexual male and don't worry about it.

    If you projectile vomit spuriously when you realise that something you are eating was made by Alan Carr, then maybe you are.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    pblakeney wrote:
    xdoc wrote:
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:
    No. You have a lot in common with lesbians.

    Lesbians I know are always moaning about camp gay guys.

    Black guys I knew were always moaning about characteristics of black guys from different black countries.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,646 Lives Here
    Carbonator wrote:

    Black guys I knew were always moaning about characteristics of black guys from different black countries.

    Are you for real?


    Christ.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    Carbonator wrote:

    Black guys I knew were always moaning about characteristics of black guys from different black countries.

    Are you for real?


    Christ.
    I believe him. People moan about everybody.
    Lazy, fat, disabled, too tall, too short, smelly, aggressive males, women drivers, immigrants, religious loonies, slow, in a rush, entitled, greedy, selfish, bald, speccy, deaf, loud, scroungers, selfish...
    And some of the most racist comments I have heard were about Eastern people from black guys.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    Carbonator wrote:

    Black guys I knew were always moaning about characteristics of black guys from different black countries.

    Are you for real?


    Christ.

    Er, no, I made it up :roll:

    Why do you think all Jamaicans have to love everyone from Barbados (as an example)?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,646 Lives Here
    Oh FFS.

    I'm not asking whether you thought it was the truth or not, I'm shocked anyone can think that's an observation worth mentioning.

    Is it a surprise that black people don't refer to themselves as one whole group?

    ^^ you're both morons.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    Some could take offence at that.
    Is being offensive a one way street?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,646 Lives Here
    If you think racism is just about offence, and equivalent to a few insults, then yes, you're an idiot.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    If you think racism is just about offence, and equivalent to a few insults, then yes, you're an idiot.
    At what point did I use the word "just".
    There is only one person on this thread being offensive.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,273
    xdoc wrote:
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:

    guess so...
  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 18,223
    Carbonator wrote:
    If two guys start snogging right next to you in a bar and you leave, or you wince at gay (man on man) sex scenes in a movie, then no.

    You are a normal heterosexual male and don't worry about it.
    Guess I must be abnormal then. I can't for the life of me understand why some people are so squeamish about normal human behaviour. No-one is saying you have to be aroused by it. I mean it's only two people kissing in a bar for crying out loud; it's not as if it's for your benefit. Maybe the sex scene in the film is part of a story rather than just being there as a bit of soft porn.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Liberal metropolitan, remoaner, traitor, "sympathiser", etc.
  • Alex99Alex99 Posts: 1,436
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    This is part of a larger ideologically driven agenda which includes any way that you can think of to be a victim and label someone else (usually white men) as the oppressor.
    As a white man who has just been labelled, I am not sure if this makes me an oppressor, or a victim. :?

    If you subscribe to this world view, then as a white man it is not possible for you to be the victim. It is quite disgusting.
    But I have just been labelled. People who subscribe to these views say labelling is wrong so I must be a victim. In their view. It's a confusing world.

    It's confusing to you because you're being reasonable. As I said, it's ideological.

    If someone says that you're racist because you fancy women dark/light skinned women less/more than the other, then they are redefining the word racism, they most likely have an agenda, and they are being ar$£holes.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,105
    Alex99 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    Alex99 wrote:
    This is part of a larger ideologically driven agenda which includes any way that you can think of to be a victim and label someone else (usually white men) as the oppressor.
    As a white man who has just been labelled, I am not sure if this makes me an oppressor, or a victim. :?

    If you subscribe to this world view, then as a white man it is not possible for you to be the victim. It is quite disgusting.
    But I have just been labelled. People who subscribe to these views say labelling is wrong so I must be a victim. In their view. It's a confusing world.

    It's confusing to you because you're being reasonable. As I said, it's ideological.

    If someone says that you're racist because you fancy women dark/light skinned women less/more than the other, then they are redefining the word racism, they most likely have an agenda, and they are being ar$£holes.
    I may have been reasonable, but I certainly wasn't being serious. :lol:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    edited July 2017
    rjsterry wrote:
    Carbonator wrote:
    If two guys start snogging right next to you in a bar and you leave, or you wince at gay (man on man) sex scenes in a movie, then no.

    You are a normal heterosexual male and don't worry about it.
    Guess I must be abnormal then. I can't for the life of me understand why some people are so squeamish about normal human behaviour. No-one is saying you have to be aroused by it. I mean it's only two people kissing in a bar for crying out loud; it's not as if it's for your benefit. Maybe the sex scene in the film is part of a story rather than just being there as a bit of soft porn.

    Part of the story lol, get real.

    Talking of getting real in sex scenes, have you ever been to bed with a woman that covers her boobs afterwards/in the morning :roll:

    Well, guys know how they feel about seeing two guys at it, regardless of what they say on here.
    I have just been honest.

    Funny how you abuse my feelings (feelings are something you cannot deny) yet are so 'right on' about a guy feeling he wants to jump another guy.

    I did not ask you to 'understand' anything, I just ask you to accept it.
    I do not understand how you could want to get it on with another guy, but I accept it.
    I think that makes me better than you :wink:
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 6,943
    Are we now in The Silly Season?
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 7,710
    Carbonator wrote:
    pblakeney wrote:
    xdoc wrote:
    You could use the same argument with regard to gender.
    I'm a guy and I only fancy girls, does that mean I'm homophobic? :roll:
    No. You have a lot in common with lesbians.

    Lesbians I know are always moaning about camp gay guys.

    Black guys I knew were always moaning about characteristics of black guys from different black countries.

    There's only one Wolverhampton, fella.
    Ben

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  • cyclecliniccycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    yep silly season alright. Rolf I dont think your racist, you cant fancy everyone.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 7,710
    Carbonator wrote:
    Well, guys know how they feel about seeing two guys at it, regardless of what they say on here.
    I have just been honest.

    How do I feel? Tell me how I feel. Regardless of what I might say on here.

    Go on.
    Ben

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  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 7,710
    yep silly season alright. Rolf I dont think your racist, you cant fancy everyone.

    I don't think Rolf is racist either, for the record. I suspect Carbonator is possibly a misogynistic homophobe, but the jury is out on that one, in all fairness.
    Ben

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