TDF 2017: 14 July - Stage 13 - Saint-Girons - Foix 101kms *Spoilers*

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    RichN95 wrote:
    If they want to work over Aru, then Sunday is the day to do it. This was just moving troops into position.

    That's what I thought after yesterday when perusing the remaining stages.
    Sunday's parcour looks like prime ambush territory.

    There's also a chance of a spot of Southerly vent, come Tuesday.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Anyway...

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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Anyway...

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    Who's just found an easy way of image editing and can't leave it alone then?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    edited July 2017
    mfin wrote:
    Who's just found an easy way of image editing and can't leave it alone then?

    What the edit feature in photobucket? I've known about it for years. Have you not been paying attention for the last 4 or so Tours? You're lucky you didn't get Team Sky as kittens this year.

    How do you think I made this?

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Be interesting if Sky play the Landa card again, given he's now ~1 minute off yellow if they do there must be a realistic chance he wins the Tour. Astana are so weak Aru may be better off calling their bluff rather than doing it all on his own, see if Froome is willing to lose to a team mate.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    Be interesting if Sky play the Landa card again, given he's now ~1 minute off yellow if they do there must be a realistic chance he wins the Tour. Astana are so weak Aru may be better off calling their bluff rather than doing it all on his own, see if Froome is willing to lose to a team mate.
    AG2R have looked fairly strong, they'd ride first.

    The interesting thing will be if Landa has a slender lead going into the final mountain stage with Froome still a few seconds back from Aru. Can Landa attack to increase his lead or will Sky settle for the banker of Froome winning via the TT?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    BURN THE W1TCH!!!!!!

    https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/8 ... 8523667458
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    Whilst I'd like to think that Froome was riding down Landa deliberately, I suspect what was really happening is that he's constitutionally unable to stop racing when his direct rivals are alongside him.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    mfin wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Anyway...

    5cde2f4b-a79c-4b97-b9e5-1e655905c27a_zpsljyqofyo.jpg

    Who's just found an easy way of image editing and can't leave it alone then?

    That 'et al. ' needs editing though.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,115
    Timoid. wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Timoid. wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Why? The chasers should have gained a minute or more back in the last 25km. They caught back two seconds.


    More like 25s

    Had they sat on, the gap may have grown or Aru would have been tired out containing it.
    When they passed the 25km to go banner the gap was 1.50. At the end it was 1.48

    But in the interim it rose to 2'10 or so.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    iainf72 wrote:
    Timoid. wrote:

    You give him too much credit.

    Landa will be fuming

    Do you honestly believe in the team chat they thought he'd get near the yellow jersey? They'd want him up the road (which I thought no one would ever let happen) so make people chase, but they would've expected it to come back more or less.

    He will be fuming if he watches it back though....
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It was very odd I have to say.

    I mean, the team was in an unbelievable position.

    Why not exploit it to the max?

    Well, we know why.






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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Timoid. wrote:

    You give him too much credit.

    Landa will be fuming

    Do you honestly believe in the team chat they thought he'd get near the yellow jersey? They'd want him up the road (which I thought no one would ever let happen) so make people chase, but they would've expected it to come back more or less.

    He will be fuming if he watches it back though....

    Rick.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Haha I can't get it here in the UK until a day later....! Pray tell!

    I have thus moved onto Tour du Jour with Boogard and Stef Clement...
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  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:


    On days like today you want to know who I miss... Frenchie. HEAVYWEIGHT.

    He enjoyed his cycling(ish) … But no-one needs his racist/homophobic polemic ...
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It was very odd I have to say.

    I mean, the team was in an unbelievable position.

    Why not exploit it to the max?

    Well, we know why.
    It wasn't odd at all. No matter how bad his form is, you don't let Quintana back into the game. Two minutes was the perfect gap. Landa is in play, Quintana isn't
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Anyway. I've watched it, the whole 100km.

    Outstanding stage.

    As ever, I believe it worked because everyone was so pooped from the day before.....

    Was very good.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It was very odd I have to say.

    I mean, the team was in an unbelievable position.

    Why not exploit it to the max?

    Well, we know why.
    It wasn't odd at all. No matter how bad his form is, you don't let Quintana back into the game. Two minutes was the perfect gap. Landa is in play, Quintana isn't


    Should have stopped Landa pulling then. :roll:
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It was very odd I have to say.

    I mean, the team was in an unbelievable position.

    Why not exploit it to the max?

    Well, we know why.
    It wasn't odd at all. No matter how bad his form is, you don't let Quintana back into the game. Two minutes was the perfect gap. Landa is in play, Quintana isn't


    Should have stopped Landa pulling then. :roll:
    But then the gap would have been less and he's less of a GC threat.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Either Quintana is a threat so Landa stops riding as soon as Quintana arrives at the group, or Kiwa & Froome don't chase Landa.

    When you cut from the front group where Landa is riding on the front to the GC group with Froome & Kwia riding, it is just wrong tactics, plain and simple.

    Can justify it all you want, but that's basic.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Haha I can't get it here in the UK until a day later....! Pray tell!

    I have thus moved onto Tour du Jour with Boogard and Stef Clement...

    Elis Ligtlee.
    So, not in their league, but special to us, cos of that top rung of the Olympic podium.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Excellent! Enjoy!

    Seems top woman from interviews.
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  • Frank Wilson
    Frank Wilson Posts: 930
    What the peleton needs is a team in orange and not CCC.
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Surely Quintana would need about 4 mins from where he is now to be a threat with a TT to come.

    They let him go yesterday but Kwia kept with him until called back so he can't have been going that well. He won't be allowed to do that in future.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,054
    Was one of the better stages I've watched this year, but I think it would have been better with a finish at the top of the final big climb.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    iainf72 wrote:
    BURN THE W1TCH!!!!!!

    https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/8 ... 8523667458

    Not sure who the witch is. Twitter seems more balanced (!) than on here to be honest. Seems like SKY played the perfect tactical game, until they blinked first in the game of chicken with Aru.
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  • EnacheV
    EnacheV Posts: 235
    Oh lets give Quintana 3-4 mins back ... its full of strategists around here.

    And taking 2-3 little attacks to try to go away on descent is chasing Landa. lol. if they wanted to chase them they would have finish at 30 seconds max not 1.40+.
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Sky have now shown that the "Landa card" means nothing.

    If they send him up the road Aru, Bardet and Uran all know that Froome will chase him down at some point.
  • EnacheV
    EnacheV Posts: 235
    smithy21 wrote:
    Sky have now shown that the "Landa card" means nothing.

    If they send him up the road Aru, Bardet and Uran all know that Froome will chase him down at some point.

    Froome and Kwiat were at back of the GC group for the 90% of descent + 2-3 little testing digs that did nothing. you call that "chase" ? :lol:
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    :roll: oh god EnacheV has responded to my comment :roll:

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