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Tour de Suisse 2017 **SPOILERS**

imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
edited June 2017 in Pro race
***SPOILERS*** Especially for first two stages. Opening a thread cos there is also a PTP on this

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Stage 3

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There is a kick-up once they have crossed the river around the flamme rouge
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Looks to be about 80 metres climb in around a kilometre - so quite enough to disrupt any normal sprint train

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Coverage today starts toady on Eurosprtplayer at 1500 on UCI channel - not sure about anywhere else
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  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Stage 1
    1 DENNIS Rohan 13 BMC 06:24
    2 *KÜNG Stefan 16 BMC 08
    3 BRANDLE Matthias 155 TFS 09
    4 MATTHEWS Michael 135 SUN 09
    5 DUMOULIN Tom 131 SUN 09
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Stage 2
    Rk Name First Name Time/Gap
    1 GILBERT Philippe 04:22:36
    2 BEVIN Patrick ST
    3 ROUX Anthony ST
    4 *ALBASINI Michael ST
    5 TRENTIN Matteo ST
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    GC overall after stage 2

    Rk Name First Name Time/Gap
    1 *KÜNG Stefan 04:29:08
    2 MATTHEWS Michael 01
    3 DUMOULIN Tom ST
    4 BOOM Lars 04
    5 SAGAN Peter 08
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    1 Matthews
    2. Sagan
    3. Degenkolb
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,215
    This race is turning into a bit of a crash fest.
    Generally, the Giro riders are still carrying decent form, while the potential TDF riders are mostly off the pace.
    Obviously, there a few exceptions.
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  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    This race is turning into a bit of a crash fest.
    Generally, the Giro riders are still carrying decent form, while the potential TDF riders are mostly off the pace.
    Obviously, there a few exceptions.

    Twice I noticed riders sliding out after overcooking corners - but with no commentary, it is so difficult to tell which riders. I haven't seen too many reports of injuries. But with sharp fast corners on the pave of ancient Bern you were always gonna have people pushing a bit too hard

    Today is a Mountain Stage

    stage-4-profile.jpg

    11 km with 800ish metres of climbing to finish off a 150km stage - the stage is flat/rolly till 100 km, then an easier mountain, followed by a not nice MTF. The two mountains are not HC - maybe a cat 2 followed by a 1

    Swiss cameras start rolling at 1500hours Local - about half an hour before the riders are expected to reach Col de Mosses - the first of the day's two climbs
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Actually last years TdF went over Col de Mosses - looks like same route from very poor map views. It was Cat 3 - but was riden before Forclaz and the brutal Finhaut
  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,369
    Just watched the end of yesterday's stage in the belief it was today's. I was very confused by Imatfaal's stage profile.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    Larry Warbasse gives Aqua Blue a big debut win

    Behind him a group of Caruso, Pozzovivo, Kruijswijk, Spilak, Frank

    Caruso new leader
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  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,369
    Like seeing riders getting their first big win - I can only try to imagine the feeling.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Like seeing riders getting their first big win - I can only try to imagine the feeling.
    Well Warbasse was very emotional there in his interview
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    Are there any other big races that have an actual jersey for the best local rider?
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  • Anyone know why Reichenbach dns
  • knedlickyknedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Anyone know why Reichenbach dns
    He had stomach problems yesterday and consequently lost 8 mins odd, so I'd guess either still had them or felt he'd lost too much ground.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    A good ride by Tao GH in 13th place. Up to 11th on GC.
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,215
    More importantly, Larry Warbasse's only ever pro win.
    Showed such emotion during his interview.
    Well worth a double chapeau.
    Mostly the Giro boys coming out well on top, along with Simon "Enigma" Spilak, Frank and LRP's main mountain domestique.
    Pretty good effort from Lopez, after such a long layoff.
    Ion Izaguirre the biggest GC flop. Tom D obviously a bit off, after all the post Giro hullabaloo.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • That was a really sweet interview. Seems like a lovely fellow! Well done to him
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  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Love to see the breakaway keep the win and foil the chasing pack - even more so when you see the joy on the face of the new winner.

    Stage 4
    1 WARBASSE Lawrence 186 Aqua Blue Sport 03:48:55 12(bonus)
    2 CARUSO Damiano 12 Bmc Racing Team 40 6(bonus)
    3 KRUIJSWIJK Steven 161 Team Lotto Nl - Jumbo ST 4(bonus)
    4 SPILAK Simon 71 Team Katusha Alpecin ST
    5 POZZOVIVO Domenico 28 Ag2r La Mondiale 44
    6 *FRANK Mathias 21 Ag2r La Mondiale 47
    7 SOLER Marc 97 Movistar Team 59

    GC
    1 CARUSO Damiano 12 Bmc Racing Team 12:08:35
    2 KRUIJSWIJK Steven 161 Team Lotto Nl - Jumbo 15
    3 POZZOVIVO Domenico 28 Ag2r La Mondiale 24
    4 SPILAK Simon 71 Team Katusha Alpecin ST
    5 SOLER Marc 97 Movistar Team 31
    6 *FRANK Mathias 21 Ag2r La Mondiale 33
    7 NIEVE Mikel 126 Team Sky 01:09
    8 FARIA DA COSTA Rui Alberto 171 Uae Team Emirates 01:10
    9 CONTI Valerio 174 Uae Team Emirates 01:20
    10 LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel 1 Astana Pro Team 01:25

    Today - Stage 5

    Rolly/Hilly and a very long day in the saddle: Bex – Cevio 222km
    Suiza-5-1.jpg?w=611

    As far as I can tell the TV coverage may miss the bulk of the long and very nasty Simplon pass (20km at +6%) coverage again seems to start at 1500 local and the predictions of cresting the pass are also around 1500lt
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    @AstanaTeam 14m
    Our rider was moved to the hospital for medical checking @SupermanlopezN #AstanaProteam #TourdeSuisse

    Miguel Angel Lopez to hospital after crash
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Descent of the Druongo looked pretty hairy - just glad the rainburst happened as the riders were close to reaching the bottom
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    1 Sagan
    2 Albasini
    3 Trentin
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 18,215
    Lopez back in hospital after yet another crash.
    A filler stage.
    Finished half hour ahead of schedule.
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  • sherersherer Posts: 2,450
    imatfaal wrote:
    1 Sagan
    2 Albasini
    3 Trentin

    great celebration from Sagan at the end :D

    Keep missing every stage so far and catching the end on facebook \ youtube
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Lopez back in hospital after yet another crash.
    A filler stage.
    Finished half hour ahead of schedule.

    Yeah - bit of a waste of one of the most beautiful and taxing climbs around
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Lovely sprint by Sagan - superb timing on a strong tail wind sprint and, as above, a great celebration. He is fun to watch and I am looking forward to him going proper head to head with Gaviria. But apart from that and a slightly scary descent in the rain it was a dull dull day made worse by the fact that Simplonpass (which even if not contested is awesomely beautiful) did not get any TV coverage


    Stage 6 looks much more exciting ...

    Suiza-6-1.jpg?w=595

    Two HC climbs both peaking at over 2000m. And it is not quite a MTF - even if it looks like it from the profile - there is 9km downhill after the top of La Punt Chamues
  • sherersherer Posts: 2,450
    as I keep missing this how is the GC battle going ?
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    sherer wrote:
    as I keep missing this how is the GC battle going ?

    Not exactly rivetting - but with two moutain stages today and tomorrow, a circuit stage, then ITT it should hot up
    Rk Name First Name Bib Nat Team Time/Gap
    1 CARUSO Damiano 12 Bmc Racing Team 17:24:24
    2 KRUIJSWIJK Steven 161 Team Lotto Nl - Jumbo 16
    3 POZZOVIVO Domenico 28 Ag2r La Mondiale 25
    4 SPILAK Simon 71 Team Katusha Alpecin ST
    5 SOLER Marc 97 Movistar Team 32
    6 *FRANK Mathias 21 Ag2r La Mondiale 34
    7 NIEVE Mikel 126 Team Sky 01:10
    8 FARIA DA COSTA Rui Alberto 171 Uae Team Emirates 01:11
    9 CONTI Valerio 174 Uae Team Emirates 01:21
    10 GEOGHEGAN HART Tao 125 Team Sky 01:38
  • red.riderred.rider Posts: 642
    Dumoulin abandons with fatigue.

    TV coverage starts as they hit the Albula. Final descent has a couple of tight hairpins, but is generally fast and flowing. Probably not long/technical enough for any significant time gaps, so these will have to come on the climb. But with a brutal finish tomorrow and an ITT after, I'm not expecting too much animosity. I'll still watch it for the scenery though.
  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    from TdS ticker
    Maximum speed of 119 km/h Wednesday, Philippe Gilbert (BEL/QST) reached a maximum speed of 119 kms per hour in the downhill of the Simplon-Pass. Allowed are on Swiss State roads 80 km/h, but as there was no police, there was also NO fine for Gilbert.

    That's mental
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    The Swiss commentator has found hitherto undiscovered syllables in Geoghegan

    (And he's dropping the Hart bit as if he's a Spaniard)
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