I've decided to go 53-39 chainset and 11-25 cassette but put SRAM etap on it. Is this forbidden unnecessary weight?
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Unless somebody corrects me - Etap being preodominantly Red and having less wires involved should still be very light. It should go very well with the Bowman Palace.
Yes.
This.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
Rubber grommets covering holes up. The very idea offends.
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
The Bowman Palace (assuming that's the frame we're talking about) has welded-on external cable bosses.
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs." https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs." https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs." https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
Strange.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
Strange.
Coming from you, MF, I take that as the highest form of complement
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Speedy!
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs." https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs." https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.
obvious.
Salacious.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
It's still only an ALLEZ. And those welds around the headtube just look awful. Like a bad cut-and-shut ford capri.
So what? I'm not particularly bothered by branding.
The old S-Works E5 Aerotec (which is essentially what this is), is still probably one of the best frames I've ever had- and I've had a few in my 32 year long bike riding history :oops: inc steel, alu, Ti, carbon.....
Fun....fast, and in this day n' age of New Age choppers in races (esp crits), fairly expendable if worst should happen.
Posts
Yes.
This.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Yes.
This.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
Rubber grommets covering holes up. The very idea offends.
The Bowman Palace (assuming that's the frame we're talking about) has welded-on external cable bosses.
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Great. Well done.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
Strange.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Coming from you, MF, I take that as the highest form of complement
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Speedy!
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
obvious.
Salacious.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I was looking for a "Fun Fast Frameset For Around A Grand" and eventually settled on Condor's Italia RC. I'm mid-build.
The finish on the frame - as you might expect - is stunning.
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De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
https://www.leisurewheels.co.uk/m5b3s25p13130/SPECIALIZED-Allez-DSW-SL-Frameset-2016/RS_GB/51085
It's still only an ALLEZ. And those welds around the headtube just look awful. Like a bad cut-and-shut ford capri.
I disagree.
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So what? I'm not particularly bothered by branding.
The old S-Works E5 Aerotec (which is essentially what this is), is still probably one of the best frames I've ever had- and I've had a few in my 32 year long bike riding history :oops: inc steel, alu, Ti, carbon.....
Fun....fast, and in this day n' age of New Age choppers in races (esp crits), fairly expendable if worst should happen.
Under a grand, light, race geometry and looks good too.
OK its from PX and probably manufactured in the far east but aren't most carbon bikes these days?
Only managed to find a couple of reviews on this which were all positive
I think I can lose a spacer on the headset, and a longer stem is needed, but that's about it.
I will try and post something in "Your Road Bikes" by the weekend.
Pete