Fun Fast Frameset For Around A Grand
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letap73 wrote:fatdaz wrote:I've decided to go 53-39 chainset and 11-25 cassette but put SRAM etap on it. Is this forbidden unnecessary weight?
TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Unless somebody corrects me - Etap being preodominantly Red and having less wires involved should still be very light. It should go very well with the Bowman Palace.
Yes.
This.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
fatdaz wrote:TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.0 -
londoncommuter wrote:fatdaz wrote:TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Yes.
This.0 -
londoncommuter wrote:fatdaz wrote:TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?0 -
letap73 wrote:londoncommuter wrote:fatdaz wrote:TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
Rubber grommets covering holes up. The very idea offends.0 -
I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0
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letap73 wrote:londoncommuter wrote:fatdaz wrote:TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely
Oh no, I shouldn't have mentioned the Bowman. If you're going etap you've got to change your mind and get a frame with no internal or external cable routing to get that uber "clean" and lovely look! You can't be half a bike tart, you're either in or out.
Are the cable guides not removeable - for the nice clean finish you are looking for?
The Bowman Palace (assuming that's the frame we're talking about) has welded-on external cable bosses.0 -
The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/0 -
letap73 wrote:The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
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Imposter wrote:letap73 wrote:The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
meanredspider wrote:I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:meanredspider wrote:I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
meanredspider wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:meanredspider wrote:I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
Strange.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:meanredspider wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:meanredspider wrote:I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Great. Well done.
Nothing to do with me - just pointing out the misguidedness of obsessing about appearance (for appearance sake) of mechanical objects - especially as you hardly look at the thing when you're riding a bike. I can only assume it's a form of vanity but I might be wrong.
Strange.
Coming from you, MF, I take that as the highest form of complement
ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
Commended.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
meanredspider wrote:I'm glad that there are people like this about. I (car) race against people who are obsessed by appearance. I invariably beat them and, slightly bizarrely given their obsession with detail (the wrong details obviously), they seeming break down far more often.
Speedy!Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:Imposter wrote:letap73 wrote:The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.
obvious.0 -
Imposter wrote:Matthewfalle wrote:Imposter wrote:letap73 wrote:The new Bowman palace has removeable cable guides - the vacant bosses won't apparently look so bad:
"Maintenance friendly, external cable routing remains for mechanical shifting but removable guides and ports allow for super clean electronic shifting installs."
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/palace-r/
The new one might - the old one certainly didn't...(make sure you get the right one)
That's the old one.
obvious.
Salacious.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
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Salivating.Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
I'll muddy the waters.
I was looking for a "Fun Fast Frameset For Around A Grand" and eventually settled on Condor's Italia RC. I'm mid-build.
The finish on the frame - as you might expect - is stunning.Ben
Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_h_ppcc/
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143173475@N05/0 -
Not really the nicest looking though is it?Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
Only a 56 left here, but may find elsewhere...
https://www.leisurewheels.co.uk/m5b3s25p13130/SPECIALIZED-Allez-DSW-SL-Frameset-2016/RS_GB/510850 -
Pippi Langsamer wrote:Only a 56 left here, but may find elsewhere...
https://www.leisurewheels.co.uk/m5b3s25p13130/SPECIALIZED-Allez-DSW-SL-Frameset-2016/RS_GB/51085
It's still only an ALLEZ. And those welds around the headtube just look awful. Like a bad cut-and-shut ford capri.0 -
Matthewfalle wrote:Not really the nicest looking though is it?
I disagree.Ben
Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_h_ppcc/
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143173475@N05/0 -
You could look at the kinesis aithein frame set as another alternative, maybe...0
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darkhairedlord wrote:Pippi Langsamer wrote:Only a 56 left here, but may find elsewhere...
https://www.leisurewheels.co.uk/m5b3s25p13130/SPECIALIZED-Allez-DSW-SL-Frameset-2016/RS_GB/51085
It's still only an ALLEZ. And those welds around the headtube just look awful. Like a bad cut-and-shut ford capri.
So what? I'm not particularly bothered by branding.
The old S-Works E5 Aerotec (which is essentially what this is), is still probably one of the best frames I've ever had- and I've had a few in my 32 year long bike riding history :oops: inc steel, alu, Ti, carbon.....
Fun....fast, and in this day n' age of New Age choppers in races (esp crits), fairly expendable if worst should happen.0 -
Viner Maxima RS 4.0 from PX?
Under a grand, light, race geometry and looks good too.
OK its from PX and probably manufactured in the far east but aren't most carbon bikes these days?
Only managed to find a couple of reviews on this which were all positiveObsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated!0 -
This was my pick up thread, I think they look good. Appreciate they're a bit marmite though.darkhairedlord wrote:Pippi Langsamer wrote:Only a 56 left here, but may find elsewhere...
https://www.leisurewheels.co.uk/m5b3s25p13130/SPECIALIZED-Allez-DSW-SL-Frameset-2016/RS_GB/51085
It's still only an ALLEZ. And those welds around the headtube just look awful. Like a bad cut-and-shut ford capri.0 -
Pretty much finished now. Just had a quick nip around the block, and the bike feels fantastic - really lively.
I think I can lose a spacer on the headset, and a longer stem is needed, but that's about it.
I will try and post something in "Your Road Bikes" by the weekend.
Pete
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