Fun Fast Frameset For Around A Grand

fatdaz

Hi

I currently have 2 bikes which are both "endurance" geometry and I'm looking to build up a third and I don't want more of the same. I'm fitter, more flexible and a better rider than I was when I bought my existing bikes so I fancy something a bit different. I'm looking to build a bike which will go on the turbo in the Winter and will be used for 10-mile TTs and shorter, faster rides in the Spring/Summer. I'm open to the idea of an aero frame but the most important things are that it's a fast/fun bike and, ideally, that it looks good

I'd be happy to spend around a grand on the frameset, does anybody have any recommendations

Cheers

Matthewfalle

Most latest CAAD you can find.

LeeDa

Matthewfalle wrote:

Most latest CAAD you can find.

CAAD12 my choice too. I prefer riding mine than the Super6. Also Canyon Ultimate AL a great frame, cheaper but a little harsher ride than the CAAD12

londoncommuter

You might want to move this to the Road Buying Advice area but I'm guessing you've seen these:

http://road.cc/content/review/222693-bo ... adset-2017

Under your budget (and I find the love in reviews for Bowman a little too glowing somehow!) but might fit the bill.

pblakeney

fatdaz wrote:

... I'm looking to build a bike which will go on the turbo in the Winter and will be used for 10-mile TTs and shorter, faster rides in the Spring/Summer. I'm open to the idea of an aero frame but the most important things are that it's a fast/fun bike and, least importantly, that it looks good...

Cheers

FTFY, if that will be your chosen uses.

Matthewfalle

londoncommuter wrote:

You might want to move this to the Road Buying Advice area but I'm guessing you've seen these:

http://road.cc/content/review/222693-bo ... adset-2017

Under your budget (and I find the love in reviews for Bowman a little too glowing somehow!) but might fit the bill.

I wish I hadn't seen this. Bollox.

Where's my cheque book? I need one now in that colour scheme. It's gorgeous. Basically the same as 3 of my existing bikes, but it's stunning.

fatdaz

I'd never heard of the Bowman but it's currently winning I think

Matthewfalle

fatdaz wrote:

I'd never heard of the Bowman but it's currently winning I think

They've been around for three or four years - first Palace was lovely and got glowing reviews as well.

Beating the CAAD on looks with that thing there, see.

peteco

Bowman have just had a delivery of frames (my Palace R arrived on Friday). Currently building it up with the aim of completing it this coming weekend.

Pete

Matthewfalle

peteco wrote:

Bowman have just had a delivery of frames (my Palace R arrived on Friday). Currently building it up with the aim of completing it this coming weekend.

Pete

NEEEEEEEED PICTURES NOW.

What spec?

PICTURES!

cougie

PX will do you a TT bike for under a grand. Halfords have a Boardman TT too for your budget.

Either of those would be perfect for your 10s and turbo

Not so great for your fast road rides but you can't have everything.

peteco

The only picture so far.

105 5800 11 speed throughout, although the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.
Prime RR-50 deep section wheels
Easton finishing parts (some on order)

Just like the OP, it's going to be my "fast" bike.

Pete

Matthewfalle

Looking sweet - hat.

Slam that with a negative rise stem and it'll add 5 mph top end. Seriously nice.

Keep us updated please.

Ciao.

lincolndave

peteco wrote:

The only picture so far.



Pete

Hi Pete, did you have to wait very long for the frame, I've just looked on their website , late June early July for a 56 frame,thanks
Dave

imposter2.0

PX pro carbon. Ideal 'fun, fast frameset' currently on sale for around a quarter of your budget.

bobmcstuff

If you're looking at alu I would have thought the Kinisis Racelight Aithein might deserve a look in, they're around £600

Personally I want a Specialized Allez Sprint for that purpose, I know the looks are a bit marmite though. Apparently the geo/handling is very similar to the Tarmac which I've ridden and is quite aggressive/responsive. Unfortunately hard to come by then frame only in the UK, but I think the two models are £1500 and £1650 for the full bike. Having said that a quick Google suggests a couple of places are now selling a limited edition version of the frameset for £1300.

Bobbinogs

I saw that Bowman a while ago when the review was first posted and thought "Wow!". Having seen the partially complete one above, I still think "Wow!"

It really does appear to the bike that is fast, fun and yet look great (no aero ugliness and, bejesus, it even comes with a threaded BB). The company do a few good posts on Youtube, btw...

chris_bass

Imposter wrote:

PX pro carbon. Ideal 'fun, fast frameset' currently on sale for around a quarter of your budget.

i'll second that! built mine up last week and put about 250 miles on it so far! for the price i'm really impressed with it, and it's orange!

meanredspider

peteco wrote:

the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.

What power meter requires a 5700 chainset?

Matthewfalle

Ah, hell, no.

Take all that shyyyt off: these bikes are meant to be stripped down stiff, light crit bikes designed for nothing more than smashing along looking really cool: none of the Garmin, power meter trash festooned all over it.

Sad now, see.

buckmulligan

meanredspider wrote:

peteco wrote:

the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.

What power meter requires a 5700 chainset?

Stages (or similar).

I don't see what all the fuss is about, looks like a fairly non-descript alloy frame if you ask me.

meanredspider

BuckMulligan wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

peteco wrote:

the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.

What power meter requires a 5700 chainset?

Stages (or similar).

I don't see what all the fuss is about, looks like a fairly non-descript alloy frame if you ask me.

Well that's exactly why I asked - swap my Stages between 3 bikes - none of which match the 105 Stages crank - and you absolutely can't tell because you can't see both sides of the bike at the same time.

BTW - I agree on the frameset. Nice paint job but easy to achieve on any frame

peteco

Took about 10 weeks from order Dave. They made this clear when I ordered it.

Pete

Lincolndave wrote:

Hi Pete, did you have to wait very long for the frame, I've just looked on their website , late June early July for a 56 frame,thanks
Dave

peteco

meanredspider wrote:

peteco wrote:

the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.

What power meter requires a 5700 chainset?

Powertap C1 - needs a 5 spoke chainset. I don't have to fit it, but careful choice of components now makes this possible in the future.

Pete

Matthewfalle

peteco wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

peteco wrote:

the eagle eyed will note the 5700 chainset to maintain compatibility with my power meter.

What power meter requires a 5700 chainset?

Powertap C1 - needs a 5 spoke chainset. I don't have to fit it, but careful choice of components now makes this possible in the future.

Pete

No.

lincolndave

Thanks Pete, I will have to get in touch with them today, have you had it out on the road as yet, if so what do you think to it,? , I see it had an excellent write up on bike radar

peteco

Not built yet. I may get it done this weekend.

Pete

Lincolndave wrote:

Thanks Pete, I will have to get in touch with them today, have you had it out on the road as yet, if so what do you think to it,? , I see it had an excellent write up on bike radar

burnthesheep

If you're only wanting to go fast for 10 miles, in your budget range I'd buy somebody else's dabbling with triathlon mistake.

Or someone else's aero bike mistake.

I'd say buy someone's used Propel and put some Chinese 60mm wheels on it. If you're going all out for 10 miles, let's go ahead and go full retard on it. The wheels will matter more than the frame anyway. You may get lucky though and someone is dumping a used one with the OEM SLR wheels on it. Doubt it, but maybe.

If I were putting 50 mi on a bike at a time, I'd consider new. But only 10 mi at a time? I'd buy someone else's mistake. The Tri world is fickle and ready to spend then dump it off at the end of season.

lincolndave

peteco wrote:

Not built yet. I may get it done this weekend.

Pete

Lincolndave wrote:

Thanks Pete, I will have to get in touch with them today, have you had it out on the road as yet, if so what do you think to it,? , I see it had an excellent write up on bike radar

Hi Pete, I have ordered one now, early July delivery, roll on July
Don't forget to let us know what it is like on the road, cheers
Dave

fatdaz

I've decided to go 53-39 chainset and 11-25 cassette but put SRAM etap on it. Is this forbidden unnecessary weight?

TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely

letap73

fatdaz wrote:

I've decided to go 53-39 chainset and 11-25 cassette but put SRAM etap on it. Is this forbidden unnecessary weight?

TBH I'm interested in etap and will probably stick it on one of the other bikes but I like the idea of this bike being "clean" and lovely

Unless somebody corrects me - Etap being preodominantly Red and having less wires involved should still be very light. It should go very well with the Bowman Palace.