Vulpine, gone.

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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    To add, Lusso will do a bespoke for you. Fancy something bigger than L but smaller than XL? Just ask and they'll see what they can do. It's not advertised but they just ask the nice ladies in the factory.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    The thread on road.cc has taken a hell of a turn. Monday might be fun.
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    bendertherobot wrote:
    The thread on road.cc has taken a hell of a turn. Monday might be fun.


    Link please?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • andcp
    andcp Posts: 644
    http://road.cc/content/news/222147-cycl ... nistration
    "It must be true, it's on the internet" - Winston Churchill
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    I think it just highlights alot of people give money to these crowdfunding/kickstarter things without really having a clue what they are funding.

    I remember an old boss of mine during the dot com boom when spin outs, start ups and venture capitalist funding was all the rage, saying if it was that easy to make a million pound business over night from a simple idea, well they wouldnt be needing our help to make it work :roll:

    fwiw I checked all my Vulpine stuff has made in China on it.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    awavey wrote:

    fwiw I checked all my Vulpine stuff has made in China on it.

    Of course it does - it's made in the same factory as swrve and all the other hipster/banker/estate agent style companies that do exactly the same this as Vulpine did.

    TDSD will head down for a docu one day and you'll piles of Vulpine stuff next to Burton S/W 2017 in the same factory with employees eagerly cutting off the labels to change one from t'other.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Shame, I like some of their stuff, I have their padded pants, plus their shorts and trousers which is strong enough to last for MTB with out being annoyingly flappy on the CX.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    roger merriman wrote:
    Shame, I like some of their stuff, I have their padded pants, plus their shorts and trousers which is strong enough to last for MTB with out being annoyingly flappy on the CX.

    Don't worry - have a look at a couple of the other hipster/city commuter sites and you'll exactly the same ones, but just with some different blurb "perfect for touring Parisienne patisseries in" or some such bollorcks.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,170
    bendertherobot wrote:
    The thread on road.cc has taken a hell of a turn. Monday might be fun.

    Looks like the thread's already got what would have been Monday's info.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Andcp wrote:
    http://road.cc/content/news/222147-cycle-clothing-brand-vulpine-insolvent-and-enters-administration

    Someone sent me this: http://fantasyequitycrowdfunding.blogsp ... ulpine&m=1

    Makes for ugly reading.
    _
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Sorry - that looks really dull.

    What's the long and short of it all?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Sorry - that looks really dull.

    What's the long and short of it all?

    The excerpts etc suggest a salary of £90k, paying off a £200k charge to to a previous director the day before the insolvency and, well, those two bespoke bikes.
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    And all the other directors walking away in June last year - including the financial director.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Sorry - that looks really dull.

    What's the long and short of it all?

    The excerpts etc suggest a salary of £90k, paying off a £200k charge to to a previous director the day before the insolvency and, well, those two bespoke bikes.

    Don't forget an in house magazine produced to show off about their bespoke bikes. Sent to the 40k address' on the mailing list.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Are they really bespoke or about as bespoke as Ribble Bikebuilder with some awful copy next to them?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    they didnt build the bikes - they got some artisan dude to make a nice set of his and hers bikes for the company founders.

    If it was Vulpine who built them then the bars would be too short and the seat tube too long....
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Fenix wrote:
    they didnt build the bikes - they got some artisan dude to make a nice set of his and hers bikes for the company founders.

    If it was Vulpine who built them then the bars would be too short and the seat tube too long....

    HE's not an artisan dude. He's either a very naughty boy or just some bloke with a beard and a penchant for wearing caps.

    I suppose they coul,d sell them to pay off some of their creditors at least.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Scroll down to dream bike I actually own - sheeeeesh. Nice stem.

    http://www.vulpine.cc/blog/2016/09/13/t ... o-vulpine/
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Scroll down to dream bike I actually own - sheeeeesh. Nice stem.

    http://www.vulpine.cc/blog/2016/09/13/t ... o-vulpine/

    It'll be interesting to find out who really owns it.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    That one was built when they started the company. So will have been depreciated and ownership transferred to the bloke by now, for next to no money, I am sure. The two built for their anniversary may not be old enought to have gotten away with that yet...
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Oh well - I am sure that they will be happy riding their custom built bikes while their creditors struggle to pay the bills in today's austerity society.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    I guess that the irony with the new custom built bikes is that they were built to fit two specific people and if the business does still own them and want to sell them off, there are two specific people that might be in the market but would probably want to pay rock bottom prices for them. Anyone else would need to fit them and probably be prepared to pay even less...
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    apreading wrote:
    I guess that the irony with the new custom built bikes is that they were built to fit two specific people and if the business does still own them and want to sell them off, there are two specific people that might be in the market but would probably want to pay rock bottom prices for them. Anyone else would need to fit them and probably be prepared to pay even less...


    True, true.

    It's a win-win for the bourgeoisie.

    And off they go to crowd fund another company punting out the same overpriced China produced clothing as the rest of them.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    awavey wrote:

    fwiw I checked all my Vulpine stuff has made in China on it.

    Of course it does - it's made in the same factory as swrve and all the other hipster/banker/estate agent style companies that do exactly the same this as Vulpine did.

    TDSD will head down for a docu one day and you'll piles of Vulpine stuff next to Burton S/W 2017 in the same factory with employees eagerly cutting off the labels to change one from t'other.

    agreed totally, it was just further up the thread it was suggested the stuff was made in the UK which explained the price point and they hadnt off shored their manufacturing. I was just pointing out that doesnt appear to hold true for the stuff Ive got certainly....but who knows maybe they changed it in the past 2 years and thats where all the stock,sizing, quality issues came from.
  • ovi
    ovi Posts: 396
    apreading wrote:
    I guess that the irony with the new custom built bikes is that they were built to fit two specific people and if the business does still own them and want to sell them off, there are two specific people that might be in the market but would probably want to pay rock bottom prices for them. Anyone else would need to fit them and probably be prepared to pay even less...
    can you not alter seatposts and stems on custom made bikes then? 8)
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    ovi wrote:
    apreading wrote:
    I guess that the irony with the new custom built bikes is that they were built to fit two specific people and if the business does still own them and want to sell them off, there are two specific people that might be in the market but would probably want to pay rock bottom prices for them. Anyone else would need to fit them and probably be prepared to pay even less...
    can you not alter seatposts and stems on custom made bikes then? 8)

    Those you can alter easily, appalling hipster taste in colours are more difficult/expensive.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    Obviously just surfing on the rapha wave, but unfortunately didn't do things half as well. They should've just copied the arm band thing.
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    There are some very unhappy and seemingly well informed posters on road.cc :(
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    dodgy wrote:
    There are some very unhappy and seemingly well informed posters on road.cc :(
    Sort comments on highest rated.
    http://road.cc/content/news/222147-cycl ... nistration
    Certainly sounds like a right mess - guy sounds like a piece of work.

    Need to be careful on these crowd funding sites!
  • Smarkinson
    Smarkinson Posts: 4
    From the road.cc comments:

    "One area of growth does stand out. A 100% rise in salaries to over £500k. Shared between 7 employees if one takes the 2016 prospectus figure. Oh and yes, remember this is a start up in its 4th year of trading. "

    :shock:

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