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Milton50 wrote:mamba80 wrote:as well as being v passionate in what he believes in.
Apart from vociferously supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament for 40 years and then dropping it when he realised it would cost him votes.
Not his biggest fan but I heard an interview with him just last week where he said the party think otherwise but if he is elected he will continue to support nuclear disarmament. As he is in disagreement with his party and it's a party manifesto he hasn't got his way, doesn't mean he has changed his mind0 -
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I know you have not been JC's biggest fanboi, but to be honest the Conservatives could put in their manifesto that they are going to eat babies (as somebody put it) and still be ahead in the polls. Such is the state of the opposition. I think that Labour's lurch to the far left has made TM feel she has to plug the gap with some of the more interventionist stuff that I don't agree with - but in my view she doesn't need to.mamba80 wrote:
Oh come on! i ve been critical of Corbyn on plenty of times...
May repeated time an again they d be no snap GE... u-turn, same on NI and probate fees... as late as yesterday we were ALL told no change to the 100k home social care.... now an about turn.
I m all for politicians looking at the evidence and changing their minds, thats a good quality BUT having a head start on the opposition, releasing what i d hope, is a well thought out manifesto (been in pwr 7 yeasr) and then c0cking a main policy, doesnt inspire confidence.
she is being lax on policy, hardly strong an stable, she needs to carry sceptics like me, if she intends to lead a united Great britain as she claims she does, into the brexit negotiations and beyond.
this is a farce, esp as it appears May had this policy put into the manifesto without full cabinet consultation, what next winter fuel allowance u-turn?
They are still the best option on the table in this election - who else do you think could feasibly run this country? Corbyns Labour?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:
I know you have not been JC's biggest fanboi, but to be honest the Conservatives could put in their manifesto that they are going to eat babies (as somebody put it) and still be ahead in the polls. Such is the state of the opposition. I think that Labour's lurch to the far left has made TM feel she has to plug the gap with some of the more interventionist stuff that I don't agree with - but in my view she doesn't need to.mamba80 wrote:
Oh come on! i ve been critical of Corbyn on plenty of times...
May repeated time an again they d be no snap GE... u-turn, same on NI and probate fees... as late as yesterday we were ALL told no change to the 100k home social care.... now an about turn.
I m all for politicians looking at the evidence and changing their minds, thats a good quality BUT having a head start on the opposition, releasing what i d hope, is a well thought out manifesto (been in pwr 7 yeasr) and then c0cking a main policy, doesnt inspire confidence.
she is being lax on policy, hardly strong an stable, she needs to carry sceptics like me, if she intends to lead a united Great britain as she claims she does, into the brexit negotiations and beyond.
this is a farce, esp as it appears May had this policy put into the manifesto without full cabinet consultation, what next winter fuel allowance u-turn?
They are still the best option on the table in this election - who else do you think could feasibly run this country? Corbyns Labour?
yep true, i have judged JC on his leadership and i still feel that is lacking.
however, May is in charge and she is no back bencher thrust into the lime light, i first had my doubts on her when she appt BJ to foreign sec, from brexit, the budget to this GE, her announcements on electricity and the latest u turn, she is showing her self to be incompetent and slightly desperate too
Its foolish to think her polls lead is unassailable its not, british people like an under dog, they also have a sense of fair play, Corbyn has by any measure been portrayed harshly his policies are proving popular and had he also done the leaders debates, he would have also shown he is far more human than May or Dominic Green who ws shown up by Mcdonald yesterday over his water share dealing!
yes i very much believe brexit will define this country and JC will get us a far better deal, so yeah i d like Labour in power.
I also dont believe that changes in gov have such a huge effect that people like to think, our civil service together with house of lords, sees to that!!!0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
Delnot came up with the idea that care costs, payable by the user would be capped.
the problem with the tories original idea is that if you happen to have a 1m house, maybe a family home handed down over a few generations, 900k would be put in the pot to pay for your care at home.
Someone with a 200k house, pays in 100k.... home care is extremely costly, day care for my mum would have been 2.5 k per week, on top of that we d have needed over night sitter.
though my mum would have got council funded care as she was classed as end of life (less than 3 months to live), their care package was 3 x 45mins per day... no where nr enough.
however, despite trying for a month to get anyone to do even this small amount, there was no nursing staff available and no care home nearby either, so she died in hospital, a disgrace, she took nothing from the state was a nurse and bought up 3 kids on her own and when she needed help, they told her to xxxx off - it makes me very angry toward this Government.0 -
I'm starting to feel less and less inclined to vote Tory despite them usually be the closest party to reflecting my views. Problem is I can't see anywhere else to go either!0
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So the YouGov poll has Conservatives on 32%, Labour on 27%, Undecided on 18%.
Another question has "Imagine it was Theresa May against Yvette Cooper". Then it is 33% Con, 25% Lab, 17% undecided.
Theresa May vs Sadiq Khan is 33% to 28%
Implies that no one would be doing better than Corbyn.0 -
mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
Delnot came up with the idea that care costs, payable by the user would be capped.
the problem with the tories original idea is that if you happen to have a 1m house, maybe a family home handed down over a few generations, 900k would be put in the pot to pay for your care at home.
Someone with a 200k house, pays in 100k.... home care is extremely costly, day care for my mum would have been 2.5 k per week, on top of that we d have needed over night sitter.
though my mum would have got council funded care as she was classed as end of life (less than 3 months to live), their care package was 3 x 45mins per day... no where nr enough.
however, despite trying for a month to get anyone to do even this small amount, there was no nursing staff available and no care home nearby either, so she died in hospital, a disgrace, she took nothing from the state was a nurse and bought up 3 kids on her own and when she needed help, they told her to xxxx off - it makes me very angry toward this Government.
Agreed, it is a disgrace. Much more money needs to go into it. Your mother should have found a safety net provided by the state. And it shouldn't be a minimum wage job.
People with £1m of assets don't need the same safety net. The more money that goes to those that do not need it, the less that is available to those that do.0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
Delnot came up with the idea that care costs, payable by the user would be capped.
the problem with the tories original idea is that if you happen to have a 1m house, maybe a family home handed down over a few generations, 900k would be put in the pot to pay for your care at home.
Someone with a 200k house, pays in 100k.... home care is extremely costly, day care for my mum would have been 2.5 k per week, on top of that we d have needed over night sitter.
though my mum would have got council funded care as she was classed as end of life (less than 3 months to live), their care package was 3 x 45mins per day... no where nr enough.
however, despite trying for a month to get anyone to do even this small amount, there was no nursing staff available and no care home nearby either, so she died in hospital, a disgrace, she took nothing from the state was a nurse and bought up 3 kids on her own and when she needed help, they told her to xxxx off - it makes me very angry toward this Government.
Agreed, it is a disgrace. Much more money needs to go into it. Your mother should have found a safety net provided by the state. And it shouldn't be a minimum wage job.
People with £1m of assets don't need the same safety net. The more money that goes to those that do not need it, the less that is available to those that do.
under a tory government, she was told by the social, when she left my violent dad and moved in with her parents who subsequently died, that she could not have any benefit as she had a house, sell the house, spend the money, then come back and see us....." she told them to do one and we managed, as soon as she could and my sister could look after my younger bro, went back to work - night duty nursing, so she could be there for us when we came home from school.... safety net? yeah.
the tories talk about independence and looking after the strivers but its all BS.
But point here is that any fees are in a way moot, there isnt the nursing care homes or med staff out there for existing needs, the jam can only be spread so far and so thinly.
My own feeling is that if there really is funding issues, then we should nt have Trident or HS2, or if its a matter of redistribution or wealth, then that needs to happen, 2 m extra elderly over the next few years, lower levels of migration and no where nr enough home grown care workers or care homes, privatisation has totally failed.
who ever wins, needs to get on with it and not be announcing policy then swapping an changing it.0 -
Pross wrote:I'm starting to feel less and less inclined to vote Tory despite them usually be the closest party to reflecting my views. Problem is I can't see anywhere else to go either!
vote Labour or a party that ll keep the tories out in your area, Labour will buld more housing and infrastructure, so its a no brainer for you :shock:0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
cap the costs. They should get over their issue with experts and figure out the sums. If 95% (made up number) of people don't spend over £100k then cap at that and it is huge peace of mind with little additional cost.
Or let everybody have a LA budget of £1k a week then they can top up - no caps
it is a hugely difficult problem that should not be left to politicians0 -
mamba80 wrote:Pross wrote:I'm starting to feel less and less inclined to vote Tory despite them usually be the closest party to reflecting my views. Problem is I can't see anywhere else to go either!
vote Labour or a party that ll keep the tories out in your area, Labour will buld more housing and infrastructure, so its a no brainer for you :shock:
I live in a pretty strong Labour area, unfortunately I struggle with too many of their policies but at least they have some and don't change their mind every 10 minutes.0 -
Surrey Commuter wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
cap the costs. They should get over their issue with experts and figure out the sums. If 95% (made up number) of people don't spend over £100k then cap at that and it is huge peace of mind with little additional cost.
Or let everybody have a LA budget of £1k a week then they can top up - no caps
it is a hugely difficult problem that should not be left to politicians
Who if not politicians?0 -
Surrey Commuter wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
cap the costs. They should get over their issue with experts and figure out the sums. If 95% (made up number) of people don't spend over £100k then cap at that and it is huge peace of mind with little additional cost.
Or let everybody have a LA budget of £1k a week then they can top up - no caps
it is a hugely difficult problem that should not be left to politicians
You normal talk sense but in this case.....
its policy that decides numbers of care homes/staff/doctors etc no matter how wealthy, with no staff, you get no care, we do not have enough care/med staff to ensure decent and kind care.
We need a return to geriatric wards and state run /not for profit care homes, there was a reason we had this years ago and its the same reason other countries also have this set up.
those with money can buy up, just as do with education or health care but the basic care must be very good
social care is a bit of a misnomer, it covers conditions that most normal people would consider to be severe medical need. ie double incontinence, bed ridden, dementia, total paralysis....0 -
mamba80 wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:mamba80 wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:For today's students, it isn't about whether you want to pay, it's how do you want to pay? Tax for the rest of your life, or until you've paid off the agreed part what your education cost? It's a decent compromise.
Over the last 35 years or so, the number of people over 90 has almost tripled and the participation in higher education has also almost tripled. Both of these are a good thing, but both have costs.
as said, do we want a graduate highly educated workforce or not?
as for costing of adult social care, what is wrong with giving people the choice? provide for your own age via state/private run care insurance with costs capped OR pay for it out of your estate? (costs capped) andrew delnot came up with sensible proposals and he has been ignored.
she has had months planning this election, yet 4 days in, does a an about turn on a key policy, strong and stable my ar$e lol! this sort of thing has never happened during an election as far as i can remember.
How are the costs capped? Or do you mean the amount you have to pay is capped?
cap the costs. They should get over their issue with experts and figure out the sums. If 95% (made up number) of people don't spend over £100k then cap at that and it is huge peace of mind with little additional cost.
Or let everybody have a LA budget of £1k a week then they can top up - no caps
it is a hugely difficult problem that should not be left to politicians
You normal talk sense but in this case.....
its policy that decides numbers of care homes/staff/doctors etc no matter how wealthy, with no staff, you get no care, we do not have enough care/med staff to ensure decent and kind care.
We need a return to geriatric wards and state run /not for profit care homes, there was a reason we had this years ago and its the same reason other countries also have this set up.
those with money can buy up, just as do with education or health care but the basic care must be very good
social care is a bit of a misnomer, it covers conditions that most normal people would consider to be severe medical need. ie double incontinence, bed ridden, dementia, total paralysis....
You must have misunderstood what I wrote as I agree with all of the bit in bold0 -
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This isn't news, the Cons being ahead for two weeks was news.0 -
From the day's events, is anyone else reminded of that The Thick of It scene where the MP is told by Malcolm Tucker, en route to the radio interview, that he will now be announcing precisely the opposite policy to what he had planned?
For what looked like an almost open goal, TM is certainly making this look like hard work.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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It appears that Labour's bribe promises have helped them, although the Tory support is still holding firm. Looks like UKIP, Lib Dems and the other fringe parties are the ones that are suffering:rjsterry wrote:From the day's events, is anyone else reminded of that The Thick of It scene where the MP is told by Malcolm Tucker, en route to the radio interview, that he will now be announcing precisely the opposite policy to what he had planned?
For what looked like an almost open goal, TM is certainly making this look like hard work.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:
It appears that Labour's bribe promises have helped them, although the Tory support is still holding firm. Looks like UKIP, Lib Dems and the other fringe parties are the ones that are suffering:rjsterry wrote:From the day's events, is anyone else reminded of that The Thick of It scene where the MP is told by Malcolm Tucker, en route to the radio interview, that he will now be announcing precisely the opposite policy to what he had planned?
For what looked like an almost open goal, TM is certainly making this look like hard work.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm
yep that was yesterday, i reckon that Tory lead would have halved after todays fiasco,will still be enough for the win but unless she gets a sizeable majority, it will look weak and yet another example of poor judgement.
i dont get the bribe bit at all, its Labours policy on not saddling students with large debt, of course many middle class tory parents might well appreciate this too?
just as DC had triple lock etc for pensioners, i dont recall you referring to that as a bribe.
we need to face facts, TM is singularly unsuited to be PM, she needs to resign..... in the national interest of course lol!0 -
Bribe = offering money in return for favours. Labour is offering students nearly £28k each in return for their votes. Simple.mamba80 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:
It appears that Labour's bribe promises have helped them, although the Tory support is still holding firm. Looks like UKIP, Lib Dems and the other fringe parties are the ones that are suffering:rjsterry wrote:From the day's events, is anyone else reminded of that The Thick of It scene where the MP is told by Malcolm Tucker, en route to the radio interview, that he will now be announcing precisely the opposite policy to what he had planned?
For what looked like an almost open goal, TM is certainly making this look like hard work.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm
yep that was yesterday, i reckon that Tory lead would have halved after todays fiasco,will still be enough for the win but unless she gets a sizeable majority, it will look weak and yet another example of poor judgement.
i dont get the bribe bit at all, its Labours policy on not saddling students with large debt, of course many middle class tory parents might well appreciate this too?
just as DC had triple lock etc for pensioners, i dont recall you referring to that as a bribe.
we need to face facts, TM is singularly unsuited to be PM, she needs to resign..... in the national interest of course lol!
And who do you think should replace TM?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:Bribe = offering money in return for favours. Labour is offering students nearly £28k each in return for their votes. Simple....although personally I have just seen my future inheritance go up by an extra £77k due to TM's announcement. She already got my vote, but thank you Mrs. May
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I don't think you can blame Labour for today's antics - very much an unforced error. Honestly, I'm rather disappointed. I had hoped for better from TM. I had thought: not my political cup of tea, but competent and pragmatic, and not too far off the centre.Stevo 666 wrote:
It appears that Labour's bribe promises have helped them, although the Tory support is still holding firm. Looks like UKIP, Lib Dems and the other fringe parties are the ones that are suffering:rjsterry wrote:From the day's events, is anyone else reminded of that The Thick of It scene where the MP is told by Malcolm Tucker, en route to the radio interview, that he will now be announcing precisely the opposite policy to what he had planned?
For what looked like an almost open goal, TM is certainly making this look like hard work.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm
All the Trumpesque whining about Corbyn making fake claims was a bit pathetic, and undermines claim that she is the only one we can trust for the job of Brexit and the economy. I thought Sir Lynton was supposed to be good at this.
As for who else instead of TM... well you see why I'm disappointed.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Stevo 666 wrote:
Bribe = offering money in return for favours. Labour is offering students nearly £28k each in return for their votes. Simple.mamba80 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:It appears that Labour's bribe promises have helped them, although the Tory support is still holding firm. Looks like UKIP, Lib Dems and the other fringe parties are the ones that are suffering:
http://www.ukpolitical.info/General_election_polls.htm
yep that was yesterday, i reckon that Tory lead would have halved after todays fiasco,will still be enough for the win but unless she gets a sizeable majority, it will look weak and yet another example of poor judgement.
i dont get the bribe bit at all, its Labours policy on not saddling students with large debt, of course many middle class tory parents might well appreciate this too?
just as DC had triple lock etc for pensioners, i dont recall you referring to that as a bribe.
we need to face facts, TM is singularly unsuited to be PM, she needs to resign..... in the national interest of course lol!
And who do you think should replace TM?
well. how much has the triple lock proven to worth to pensioners over time? the amount the student loan reversal will be worth is hard to ascertain, many loans are never repaid and never will be.
unfortunately offering the electorate something in return for votes is an old tactic, sometimes works sometimes not, i dont see it as a bribe though, as i said its no more than the tories have done in past elections is it? or very well put by Narbs lol!
PM ? obv a labour one and Corbyn - purely because he ll get the best brexit deal for the UK but given the Tories "should" win, then Ken Clark, clever guy and would also get us a good deal or better still, keep us in !!!! dont know if he is standing as an MP though.0 -
Absolutely. All parties do it. Just that TM has got it spot on for me. Why would I not vote for that? Add to that the protection I will get from Labour's financial punishment of anyone who earns a reasonable amount and its a no brainer from my personal of view.narbs wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Bribe = offering money in return for favours. Labour is offering students nearly £28k each in return for their votes. Simple....although personally I have just seen my future inheritance go up by an extra £77k due to TM's announcement. She already got my vote, but thank you Mrs. May
Simple indeed.
Although I still think that they are the best option for this country of those currently available. Which to be honest isn't that difficult..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Went to a hustings this evening.
Interesting point on the 'Dementia Tax' from the Lib Dems candidate, who hadn't got a car in helps chance of beating Sir Desmond (Con)
Average house price in Halifax £102,000. Average house price in Bransgore (where hustings held) £500, 000.
Ergo the person in Halifax will pay £2,000 for their care costs and the person in Bransgore £400,000 for exactly the same. How is that fair?Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
Mr Goo wrote:Went to a hustings this evening.
Interesting point on the 'Dementia Tax' from the Lib Dems candidate, who hadn't got a car in helps chance of beating Sir Desmond (Con)
Average house price in Halifax £102,000. Average house price in Bransgore (where hustings held) £500, 000.
Ergo the person in Halifax will pay £2,000 for their care costs and the person in Bransgore £400,000 for exactly the same. How is that fair?
One is richer than the other.0
