What happened to the Wiggins thread

Vino'sGhost

There may have been a level of intransigence on both sides but there was valid opinion and even a smattering of fact.

I noticed a number of new posters in the last few days who took a more cycnical view than the forum longtimers,

tailwindhome

What thread?
There was no Wiggins thread.

dj58

He means the Wiggins the Cheat? thread, which does seem to have gone. Wiggins the Legend is still there though but.

takethehighroad

I never saw a Wiggins the Cheat thread. Did anyone else?

ddraver

Dont know what you re talking about mate, you Crazy?

jam1e

I know there was one but couldn't reliably say what was in it...

Vino'sGhost

I shall conjure wcf to remind you all about it

salsiccia1

You weren't there, man. You don't know how it went down

*thousand yard stare*

weekendcyclingfan

Vino'sGhost wrote:

I shall conjure wcf to remind you all about it

It was determined my argument was so persuasive that it wasn't needed anymore :shock:

It will be resurrected, as the CMS thread prior to the 22nd February. A few were a little upset with the discussion and wanted it removed. What can you do but listen to those who scream loudest?

I thought was a good thread with strong opinions on both sides with a little fun in between.

No_Ta_Doctor

I'm glad I never saw any Wiggins thread. I can imagine it starting out as a reasonable debate re the TUEs and transport of packages - with minority opinion largely respected - but attracting trolls from the asylum who in their desperate need to promote their own agenda of UKPostal/Sky-doping would drag the debate into a war of attrition, focused on small irrelevant asides, labelling opposing opinion nationalistic, branding the entire board doping apologists or worse, attempting to polarise the discussion and frantically googling wikipedia articles on anything/everything that might possibly win them one tiny side-battle in their on-going war on doping.

I for one am glad that such a thread never existed.

smithy21

Wcf won by tko

Is this now the rematch thread?

weekendcyclingfan

No tA Doctor wrote:

I'm glad I never saw any Wiggins thread. I can imagine it starting out as a reasonable debate re the TUEs and transport of packages - with minority opinion largely respected - but attracting trolls from the asylum who in their desperate need to promote their own agenda of UKPostal/Sky-doping would drag the debate into a war of attrition, focused on small irrelevant asides, labelling opposing opinion nationalistic, branding the entire board doping apologists or worse, attempting to polarise the discussion and frantically googling wikipedia articles on anything/everything that might possibly win them one tiny side-battle in their on-going war on doping.

I for one am glad that such a thread never existed.

You could just send random links of Daily Mail articles to show the world they really are the invisible enemy we are all fighting :shock:

Reds under the bed.

Rodrego Hernandez

Thankfully it was put out of its misery.

There were some quite useful facts there, some good points and some less good points. Unfortunately it was derailed by one particular user who refused to actually read the answers in the thread and kept asking the same dumb questions over and over.

It was good to see some valid points being made and times have moved on from the standard bike radar response to anything potentially being dodgy with team sky etc which is a good thing.

Hopefully the moderator team will keep an eye on the poster and prevent them from ruining any more threads.

weekendcyclingfan

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

Thankfully it was put out of its misery.

There were some quite useful facts there, some good points and some less good points. Unfortunately it was derailed by one particular user who refused to actually read the answers in the thread and kept asking the same dumb questions over and over.

It was good to see some valid points being made and times have moved on from the standard bike radar response to anything potentially being dodgy with team sky etc which is a good thing.

Hopefully the moderator team will keep an eye on the poster and prevent them from ruining any more threads.

I spoke to the moderator. They praised some of the points I made but said stay away from criticising others. Just because you don't agree with another's point of view, doesn't mean they are wrong or that they are a troll.

My thoughts on the thread were that as soon as a point was made with regards to Sky and Brailsford not being forthright with the truth or looking not so good, many would attempt to derail the thread by posting silly pictures of cats, dogs, crying babies, stupid pictures with an arrow pointed to the head with a label "stupid". the Third Reich, cricketers etc.

If you are looking to point fingers perhaps look at those who do not want to discuss the finer points intelligently but just mock.

Rodrego Hernandez

All of the answers you wanted were in the fucking thread you moron.

The fact that you couldn't be bothered to read it and get the answers is what caused the problems.

No one in their right mind would think for a moment that anything you were posting was worthy of any praise.

The 'stupid' cat and dog pictured added more to the thread than anything you posted. Now just take a moment to think about that.

weekendcyclingfan

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

All of the answers you wanted were in the ******* thread you moron.

The fact that you couldn't be bothered to read it and get the answers is what caused the problems.

No one in their right mind would think for a moment that anything you were posting was worthy of any praise.

The 'stupid' cat and dog pictured added more to the thread than anything you posted. Now just take a moment to think about that.

Point in case ^^. To be honest, you've added nothing here, just more aggression and silencing of those who might hold a different opinion than your own.

The UKAD investigation is on-going, along with the CMS hearings and internal report by British Cycling, "all the answers are in the thread" - well they are not, that would not be possible. It was on-going thus the discussion grew from the moment Fancy Bears first released the TUES, through the publication about the package, the hearings etc.

Do you call everyone a moron who doesn't agree with you?

No_Ta_Doctor

Oh FFS.

The thread was salvageable. Some posters aren't.

carbonclem

It seems the Mail are busy crushing Beckham right now. Interesting how they spin last nights comments on TV about the Mail , as in they ignore it! ... and no comments that people might mention it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -Jump.html

tim000

weekendcyclingfan wrote:

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

All of the answers you wanted were in the ******* thread you moron.

The fact that you couldn't be bothered to read it and get the answers is what caused the problems.

No one in their right mind would think for a moment that anything you were posting was worthy of any praise.

The 'stupid' cat and dog pictured added more to the thread than anything you posted. Now just take a moment to think about that.

Point in case ^^. To be honest, you've added nothing here, just more aggression and silencing of those who might hold a different opinion than your own.

The UKAD investigation is on-going, along with the CMS hearings and internal report by British Cycling, "all the answers are in the thread" - well they are not, that would not be possible. It was on-going thus the discussion grew from the moment Fancy Bears first released the TUES, through the publication about the package, the hearings etc.

Do you call everyone a moron who doesn't agree with you?

but they weren't the answers he wanted.

tim000

Davina "Bradley , why did you decide to take part in The Jump"? wiggins " to pi$$ the mail off"

blazing_saddles

weekendcyclingfan wrote:

I spoke to the moderator. They praised some of the points I made but said stay away from criticising others. Just because you don't agree with another's point of view, doesn't mean they are wrong or that they are a troll.

My thoughts on the thread were that as soon as a point was made with regards to Sky and Brailsford not being forthright with the truth or looking not so good, many would attempt to derail the thread by posting silly pictures of cats, dogs, crying babies, stupid pictures with an arrow pointed to the head with a label "stupid". the Third Reich, cricketers etc.

If you are looking to point fingers perhaps look at those who do not want to discuss the finer points intelligently but just mock.

In that case.....









Anything to help another thread mercy killing.

weekendcyclingfan

tim000 wrote:

Davina "Bradley , why did you decide to take part in The Jump"? wiggins " to pi$$ the mail off"

Do you think he is succeeding? 8)

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No_Ta_Doctor

weekendcyclingfan

Good article from the Daily Mail:

Piste off? Bradley Wiggins stuns The Jump viewers as he SWEARS on live TV before watershed as Davina McCall is forced to apologise in expletive-filled first episode

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... z4XwXwgBzo

No_Ta_Doctor

above_the_cows

Maybe a lawyer could help?

webboo

You won't find a real one on this thread.

No_Ta_Doctor

Vino'sGhost

I thought wcf sometimes came up with so,e very valid points.

kingstongraham

Vino'sGhost wrote:

I thought wcf sometimes came up with so,e very valid points.

Doping without breaking any rules, or ravers on kenalog?

bobmcstuff

Vino'sGhost wrote:

I thought wcf sometimes came up with so,e very valid points.

In amongst all of the talking down to people, smugness and irrelevant links.

And the slightly weird obsession with the mail's credibility.