FAO: Josh
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Just been made aware of 'scraping'. i.e using threads for another forum. For example:
http://www.yellowjerseycyclist.com/topi ... 8/?page=24
Do the BR administration condone this? What's the legal standing?
http://www.yellowjerseycyclist.com/topi ... 8/?page=24
Do the BR administration condone this? What's the legal standing?
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De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
No but you will get sectioned.
Anyone for a comeback of heavy handed moderating?
No thanks. We've gone from 'over-moderated' to 'un-moderated'. I suspect what is needed is simply 'moderated'..
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I get "Connection refused: http://www.yellowjerseycyclist.com:80"
I guess it's either picking up my IP address and blocking it or they've clocked us all. Can't even get in using a proxy server.
Try the link:
http://www.yellowjerseycyclist.com
Definitley not - it drove loads of people away and turned it turgid.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
The problem with heavy handed moderation is that one's purpose is another man's turn off: the forumites on here are a mixed bunch with all differing views on cycling and life, so unless you're going to be any of the above then let it be.
I'd be intrigued to see who Ugo was going to nominate to carry out the heavy handed moderation and what guidelines constituted heavy handed moderation......
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
What?!
I know
Oh - Dirk is still in bits .... he fell on me the other day: I think he was trying to tell me something.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
quite run of the mill I'd say if I was asked to describe myself.....
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
All hail Pinno!
Re. the moderating, I've mentioned before that it is only me for various reasons explained previously. As I hope you'll understand, it is a big forum to moderate for one person who also has other responsibilities. I appreciate any reports that are made by users, which significantly helps me out!
Pinno is our leader and we respect him!
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Pinno is our leader and we respect him!
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
There is no evidence that numbers were higher or indeed lower when moderation was more "heavy handed"... my gut feeling is that the forum was busier than than it is now, but I have no evidence to back it up.
It's not about who, but how... we can't allow people who have no interest in having genuine discussions to keep posting and opening a couple of pointless threads a day... folks who only have personal attack on the agenda to post freely... it just devalues the all place from a valuable source of information to a series of hysterical screams...
People are probably happy either way, let's face it, the forum is a time filler for folks who spend their working life in front of a monitor and can post between an email and a spreadsheet, but these things come and go with fashion and only the stuff that is genuinely useful tends to stick around.
I have learnt to ignore the various Paxingtons and b.1998 that keep posting shite, but the incentive to discuss topics on a level that is of any use to anybody else is going downhill.
It is very evident to me that folks who used to post regularly with plenty of knowledge, seem to post a lot less or have packed up altogheter... on the other hand, there is no shortage of idiots
I would hate to see a heavy hand approach to monitoring the forum unless it is to remove anything blatantly prejudicial there should be more scope to nip in the bud the threads which descend into farce. If you just delete the pointless bickering when it becomes irrelevant to the subject on hand then hopefully the time wasting bullshit merchants will give up and move on.
Well, that's what we were trying to do a couple of years back... I guess people were not happy when we began to moderate even the Bottom Bracket section... the last pillar of "I say whatever I want" on the forum. At the time there was the perception, right or wrong, that it had gone too far and it needed to be moderated.
Any other aspect of the moderation was better than the current lack of. Nuisance folks were regularly banned, threads locked, posts deleted... those who complained about that are the same people taking advantage of the current relaxed climate.
We had two frame builders, where have they gone? We had a few folks really knowledgeable about everything down to the thread of that particular screw, nowhere to be seen...
In return we have a plethora of tour operators, lots of incredible good advice about what looks good, sounds good.
I would say the ONLY interesting part of the forum today is the training, where there is still some very decent advice...
The amount of bollox I read daily in the workshop section is staggering...
I've been on here for over 10 years, and had never used the 'block' feature previously, but have found myself having to use it twice in the last 3 months :?
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Scott Foil 18
There is that, but there is a general lack of spannering knowledge that used to be there. Most of the advice is generic blurb read on some other forums, like "bedding the pads in" as the universal solution to all braking problems...
The irony is, we hardly ever argue in BB - it's all banter. I cannot believe some of the stuff that people say on an open forum. It goes totally against the general bollox that we indulge in down in BB. No one insults anyone one in BB because we expect abuse and we are generally self policing. Apart from Stevo666, he's a [email protected]
You can't pick out BB solely when some of the stuff in Crudcatcher is way above what I think is acceptable (sometimes). However, I have never flagged an insult in there because you 'enter at your own risk' and if you cannot tolerate being insulted or offended, then don't post there. The rest of the Crudders forum is pretty laid back. There's scant pickings for the popcorn munchers.
Aside from that. if Josh is on his own, it's a hell of a big forum to look after single handedly. He needs some assistance, somehow because the BR forum will end up being an ominous place to come and join, which is a pity as it's the best forum in terms of layout, options, reviews and discussion.
I think we need a new mantra ' 'Use it, not abuse it'. I think it should be down to certain individuals to say 'Come on fellas, there's no need for that... enough'.
Unfortunately we don't have a very discerning clientele, that moron of a troll of b.1998 can go on posting three stupid threads per day and you will find plenty of folks who are happy to contribute pages of nonsense, throwing buckets of mud on the forum... I wouldn't be surprised if the guy had someone paying him to do just that...
But le't be nice and open to everybody, just in case we ban the wrong guy and we are taken to court... as if the justice system had time for this censored
Utter nonsense.
Yossie was pretty darn good on the spannering (in fact one of the best) but look what happened to him.
You bite the hand that feeds you and you get generic rubbish taking its place.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour