Pegoretti Mxxxxxo Ciavete

meesterbond

So I have all the bits...

Some wheels:

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New Chainset:

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And a big box of bits:

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Chorus mechanical (the connoisseur's groupset), 3T bar, stem and post and other assorted shiny bits...

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So the frame finally arrives (or rather in my impatience I go down to collect it)...

Congratulations Meesterbond... it's a red one:

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A very healthy, if not very weight weenie 4lbs:

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And a further 344g for the forks (uncut)...

All in all, a very happy boy, although won't get a chance to build it up for a few weeks...

shortfall

Intriguing! What's the frame then or am I missing something obvious (apart from it's steel and appears to be coming from Italy? If it's a Pegoretti I hate you already lol).

meesterbond

Shortfall wrote:

Intriguing! What's the frame then or am I missing something obvious (apart from it's steel and appears to be coming from Italy? If it's a Pegoretti I hate you already lol).

matt_n-2

Verona isn't far from Trento so my bet is a Peg too.

Damn you, my aim is to order one in time for my 40th in a few years.

Look forward to the pics.

arlowood

If were in guessing mode then it could also be one of these

http://www.zullo-bike.com/

Based in Castelnuovo del Garda about 10 miles from Verona

Or possibly one of these

http://www.chesini.it/eng/bikes/steel

with the main base in Verona itself.

meesterbond

Well, the frame has spent Christmas in a depot in Basildon (lucky thing), despite having a delivery date of the 22nd.

Hopefully tomorrow.

ugo.santalucia

Couriers are up there with the most annoying things in life

Captain Fagor

Difficult to pull-off a steel build with deep sections and make it look right. However, based on meesterbond's past builds, he might be the man to do it. Looking forward to seeing this!

meesterbond

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Couriers are up there with the most annoying things in life

We left the house for 2 hours today - they attempted to deliver it 10 minutes after we'd gone... off to pick it up in the morning!

By the way, it is a Pegoretti... a Mxxxxxo (Dario wouldn't say why he changed the name from Marcelo when it's essentially the same bike). No idea what colour it is yet either as I went for the Ciavete. Let's hope he wasn't having a 'bright pink' day when he painted it.

matt_n-2

Nice!

Falz fork?

I'd go for a Mxxxxxo too.

napoleond

Nice. Probably the only frame I would buy to replace my colnago.
Looking forward to seeing it completed.

ugo.santalucia

I'm tyrying to figure out "Ciavete"... I do understand a bit of dialect from Veneto and my guess is that it means something along the lines of "go f-u-c-k yourself"

imposter2.0

ugo.santalucia wrote:

I'm tyrying to figure out "Ciavete"... I do understand a bit of dialect from Veneto and my guess is that it means something along the lines of "go f-u-c-k yourself"

I think in this context it means "we'll paint it in whatever combination of paints we feel like - fingers crossed you don't hate it when you open the box" or words to that effect.

ugo.santalucia

Imposter wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

I'm tyrying to figure out "Ciavete"... I do understand a bit of dialect from Veneto and my guess is that it means something along the lines of "go f-u-c-k yourself"

I think in this context it means "we'll paint it in whatever combination of paints we feel like - fingers crossed you don't hate it when you open the box" or words to that effect.

I was interested in the word per se... it could be a macheronic use of the Italian c'avete, which means "you have" (2nd plural) or in dialect might derive from the verb "ciavar" (literally f-u-c-k)... I seem to remember in Veneto they use "ciavete" to mean go fcuk yourself...

Anyway... the paint scheme is a grower... one of those that one hates at first but then grows into liking it a lot... the red is very nice, obviously

shortfall

It's not my favourite paintscheme I've seen on a Pegoretti but I bet it looks better in the flesh and as above will probably be a grower. What it definitely isn't is just another cookie cutter Trek/Specialised/Giant which makes it all the more appealing to me.

webboo

That paint job looks like it's been done by someone who's not been taking their medication.

Phil&hisbikes

Love the frame colour!
It'll look great attached to that Bora wheel set

Garry H

Webboo wrote:

That paint job looks like it's been done by someone who's not been taking their medication.

That's best kind of paint job!

matt-h

Captain Fagor wrote:

Difficult to pull-off a steel build with deep sections and make it look right. However, based on meesterbond's past builds, he might be the man to do it. Looking forward to seeing this!

This was my steel with deep sections effort

https://flic.kr/p/QcpHUA


Looking forward to the finished build on this

bobmcstuff

I think the colour scheme's great as are the deep sections - looking forward to seeing the build!

veronese68

ugo.santalucia wrote:

I was interested in the word per se... it could be a macheronic use of the Italian c'avete, which means "you have" (2nd plural) or in dialect might derive from the verb "ciavar" (literally f-u-c-k)... I seem to remember in Veneto they use "ciavete" to mean go fcuk yourself

I feel I should know, but considering most of my dialect was taught to me by my gran I don't think that ever came up. I will try to find out.
Lovely frame, looking forward to seeing the finished product.

matt_n-2

My LBS are quite friendly with Dario and afatk it means f*** y** and you'll end up with whatever takes Dario (or his teams) fancy at the time of painting. He does normally ask for a few hints though.

ugo.santalucia

Matt_N wrote:

My LBS are quite friendly with Dario and afatk it means f*** y** and you'll end up with whatever takes Dario (or his teams) fancy at the time of painting. He does normally ask for a few hints though.

Glad to be right on this...

Phil&hisbikes

Come on!
I've checked this thread every sodding day .... What ya doing?

meanredspider

Phil&hisbikes wrote:

Come on!
I've checked this thread every sodding day .... What ya doing?

It's funny isn't it? You'll have built a bike from scratch in the same time.

It always makes me smiles when people talk about bike builds and needing weeks to assemble a few components in a glorified Mecchano set.

veronese68

Last line of the original post.

meesterbond wrote:

All in all, a very happy boy, although won't get a chance to build it up for a few weeks...

Although having all the stuff and not having time to put it together would drive me up the wall. On the other hand after waiting for the frame you'd be used to waiting. But, I'd be like an impatient kid waiting for Christmas and would have to get on with it.

Paul 8v

Very jealous. A Pegoretti is number 1 on my wish list.

meesterbond

meanredspider wrote:

Phil&hisbikes wrote:

Come on!
I've checked this thread every sodding day .... What ya doing?

It's funny isn't it? You'll have built a bike from scratch in the same time.

It always makes me smiles when people talk about bike builds and needing weeks to assemble a few components in a glorified Mecchano set.

Ok, keep your hair on... I've actually been off skiing for the last week, only just got back. Will make a start on it on Tuesday with any luck.

Phil&hisbikes

meesterbond wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Phil&hisbikes wrote:

Come on!
I've checked this thread every sodding day .... What ya doing?

It's funny isn't it? You'll have built a bike from scratch in the same time.

It always makes me smiles when people talk about bike builds and needing weeks to assemble a few components in a glorified Mecchano set.

Ok, keep your hair on... I've actually been off skiing for the last week, only just got back. Will make a start on it on Tuesday with any luck.

I'll be back on Tuesday then!

veronese68

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Matt_N wrote:

My LBS are quite friendly with Dario and afatk it means f*** y** and you'll end up with whatever takes Dario (or his teams) fancy at the time of painting. He does normally ask for a few hints though.

Glad to be right on this...

Saw my sister the other day (lives in Padova) and she was more than a little surprised but confirmed it is correct.

meesterbond

At least we've all learnt a very useful Italian phrase from this thread, even if bike build progress has been slow / non existent.