My Vintage Build

rower63
rower63 Posts: 1,991
edited November 2016 in Commuting chat
Thought I'd keep you up to date with my vintage build, after 2 years very nearly finished:

IMG_5601_s.jpg
or
http://www.slidingseat.net/MiscPhotos/MiscPhotos.html#bottecchiapic

Frameset: Bottecchia 1990 Columbus SLX
wheelset : Ambrosio Nemesis on Croce d'Aune hubs (built by ugo)
headset : Campagnolo Record
brake calipers : Campagnolo Record Delta 5-pivot
crankset : Campagnolo Record
bottom bracket : Campagnolo Record
handlebars : Cinelli Alu 42cm
stem : Italmanubri Eclipse 14cm
saddle : Selle San Marco black leather
cassette : Regina 7sp 21-13
seatpost : Campagnolo
front mech : Campagnolo Croce d'Aune
rear mech : Campagnolo Croce d'Aune
downtube shifters : Campagnolo Croce d'Aune
tyres : Continental Sprinter Tubular 22mm

Just cables and levers to get. Saddle will eventually likely be a black Brooks Swift, and white bar tape.
Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
Ridley Noah FAST 2013
Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    That's a long seatpost!

    Why are the other bikes retired?
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    coriordan wrote:
    That's a long seatpost!
    Why are the other bikes retired?
    The seatpost is high, but mainly it's distorted by perspective in the pic. I have a short body/long legs so tend to prefer small frames with an elevated seatpost.
    Hoy frame was a stop-gap while my Dolan was being replaced under warranty. My plan is to turn it into my "Ireland bike", with a 50/34 and 12-29 to negotiate the many >20% ramps out there. Storck currently on the turbo (frame cracked/repaired).
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    The Nemesis were awesome... the TB14 pair that replaced them are nowhere near as good... nowhere near!

    Although riding the Tissington trail at the Eroica I was glad I had a 20 quid clincher and not a 60 quid tubular!
    left the forum March 2023
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    I take it this build has taken so longer because you've been traveling back in time to collect parts but unexpectedly can across danB who is lost in time building his Scott and got distracted.

    Btw how are you planning on stopping? Will the brake anchors be lashed to some kind of handlebar mounted pully system?
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    itboffin wrote:
    Btw how are you planning on stopping? Will the brake anchors be lashed to some kind of handlebar mounted pully system?

    Given he's fitted Deltas I'm guessing he's not planning on stopping.. I got as far as riding my 1989 Peugeot Chorus 753 as a single speed with Deltas while I sourced a appropriate authentic drive train.

    It was terrifying. Brakes have come a long way in 30 years.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Kudos on tubs. Although get some Veloflex Carbons on there.

    You are going to flex the living shit out of that frame under load. 3/4" lateral movement (each side) in the BB area easily is where my money is.

    PS. When you say just levers and cables to get, you may want to check whether you have a chain.
    Swim. Bike. Run. Yeah. That's what I used to do.

    Bike 1
    Bike 2-A
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Asprilla wrote:

    It was terrifying. Brakes have come a long way in 30 years.

    My 1980 Super Record brakes are pretty good... I've come down some serious descents with no problem at all
    left the forum March 2023
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Were you on the bike at the time?
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Hahahaha. Chain arrived in post yesterday (Campag 9-speed, I'm told slightly narrower chain than the contemporary one works better).

    I'm no expert, but I think the first-generation Deltas were "3-pivot", which basically didn't stop you. The final generation were "5-pivot" which were, apparently, much more effective. These are Record 5-pivot ones, I'll let you know once I've tried them (assuming I survive).

    But extremely pretty though they are, they are the most stupidly overdesigned piece of engineering I've ever seen, 130 individual components for a single brake I read somewhere.

    As for the tubs, it's only as a result of a conversation with a guy in a pub after 2-3 pints of Erdinger that I got sold a pair of rims.*

    Frame flex - until a couple of years ago I used a similar-vintage (but too-large) steel Pinarello as my Plan B bike, so I know what to expect.



    *That guy was ugo, and you can see he's still selling them to me, a few posts above :wink: . Seriously, I've never "done" tubs and thought this was a good opportunity.
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Tubs are lovely and the good ones with latex inners sound awesome... it's only when you hit the economics of 20 quid a puncture repair that you realise they really are "best day only"
    left the forum March 2023
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    I like it.
    Still want to get myself an old steel framed roadie. When I pinch the boys bike I'm always impressed with the ride even with the complete mish mash of parts fitted. Still haven't worked out what the frame is though.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Veronese68 wrote:
    I like it.
    Still want to get myself an old steel framed roadie. When I pinch the boys bike I'm always impressed with the ride even with the complete mish mash of parts fitted. Still haven't worked out what the frame is though.

    one old boy I met thought it was a Dawes

    But to be honest no idea the folks I got it off, it had sat in a shed for quite a few years.
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Veronese68 wrote:
    I like it.
    Still want to get myself an old steel framed roadie. When I pinch the boys bike I'm always impressed with the ride even with the complete mish mash of parts fitted. Still haven't worked out what the frame is though.

    My Peugeot single speed is the most comfortable bike I've owned. It even beat a Ti frame with a nicely broken in Brooks saddle.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    roger merriman wrote:
    one old boy I met thought it was a Dawes.
    Could be, I think it's a good quality frame looking at some of the details on it but never managed to work out exactly what. I think the forks that were on it were wrong, but he bent them crashing into a parked car. The replacements I got look wrong unfortunately.
    Kinesis Pro6
    Marin Nail Trail
    Cotic Solaris
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Asprilla wrote:
    ...My Peugeot single speed is the most comfortable bike I've owned. ...
    apart from your new Canyon, of course :wink:
    Asprilla wrote:
    Took the new bike today.

    It's faster, more responsive, lighter and more comfortable than any bike I've previously owned. It will remain so until it's no-longer 'new'....
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    You got me bang to rights, Rower.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    Nice bike, good luck keeping those Deltas balanced - there was a good reason the Pros dumped them in favour of standard side-pulls!

    Surely for a 1990 bike the chainset should be C-Record style?

    And I'd forgotten all about Croce D'Aune...

    Edit: terminology
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    SecretSam wrote:
    Nice bike, good luck keeping those Deltas balanced - there was a good reason the Pros dumped them in favour of standard side-pulls!

    Surely for a 1990 bike the chainset should be C-Record style?
    Thanks. Yes the cranks, BB and headset are all older vintage than the rest. I have an alloy early Record 10 cransket hanging around, which is very similar to C-Record, I might switch to that instead.

    It's VERY tempting to try it out before I get the brake levers, but perhaps not...
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    very nice build, looking good.

    I was down at Stan's Bike Shack last weekend (a good mid-point for a ride - great snacks & coffee) and saw a late 80's early 90's steel framed colnago like this (googled pic).

    12976170_591576704351915_900998390_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIzMTI1NjExNTgyNDM4MzE1OA%3D%3D.2

    spotless with full campy athena gruppo.

    Bought as a complete bike; cost him £680 for the lot from 'some old bloke'
    FCN = 4
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Latest, with added chain and cables, and better perspective. Gears all now indexed and working, and the fact I'm able to type this means that I resisted the temptation to try it out without brakes. 14cm stem frightens me a bit, it happened to be in the parts bin and from the old Pinarello. I might have to find a less extreme 10cm one.

    IMG_5612_Bottecchia_s.jpg
    or click through for a high-res one:
    http://www.slidingseat.net/MiscPhotos/MiscPhotos.html#bottecchiapic
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    rower63 wrote:
    14cm stem frightens me a bit, it happened to be in the parts bin and from the old Pinarello.

    The longer, the easier to handle, I typically use 13 cm
    left the forum March 2023
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    i have a couple you can have i think they're 100 or 110
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    itboffin wrote:
    i have a couple you can have i think they're 100 or 110

    Quill stems? That's dark ages magicks there.

    So, the chainset.

    That looks to my eye like, oh, 53/51. Not a big believer in the small ring at the front?
    Swim. Bike. Run. Yeah. That's what I used to do.

    Bike 1
    Bike 2-A
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Yes quill I got them from a gray hair old man in the woods he said he was a wizard, went by the name of GregT

    There may have also been some touching
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Those invisible cables and shifter are super bling #want

    Finish the bike now ....
    Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,497
    itboffin wrote:
    Those invisible cables and shifter are super bling #want

    Finish the bike now ....
    Check out the down tube.
    Great use of the beer bottle accessory too
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Tashman wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    Those invisible cables and shifter are super bling #want

    Finish the bike now ....
    Check out the down tube.
    Great use of the beer bottle accessory too

    He's getting on a bit now. His eyes aren't what they used to be.
    Swim. Bike. Run. Yeah. That's what I used to do.

    Bike 1
    Bike 2-A
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    This is lovely. Or at least it will be once it's finished...
    Ben

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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    itboffin wrote:
    i have a couple you can have i think they're 100 or 110
    thanks ... I'll probably take you up on that.

    My problem with such a long stem is I have a very short torso, and reaching too far forward for any length of time becomes uncomfortable...
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Saddle arrived: a Brooks Swallow in WHITE (Limited Edition for the 2012 Olympics, they produced 500 each of red, white and blue. Found someone fed up with 4-year old stock selling them for half price.)
    Brake levers sourced: a pair of 1987 Chorus levers with somewhat tatty hoods, should arrive tomorrow.
    Bartape: Selle white leather.
    All above to be attached this weekend and ready to ride! Will post pics of final build.
    Dolan Titanium ADX 2016
    Ridley Noah FAST 2013
    Bottecchia/Campagnolo 1990
    Carrera Parva Hybrid 2016
    Hoy Sa Calobra 002 2014 [off duty]
    Storck Absolutist 2011 [off duty]
    http://www.slidingseat.net/cycling/cycling.html

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