How good is Chris Froome?

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  • JackTar
    JackTar Posts: 77
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.
    I would agree with you for any other rider (except Tom D) but Froome is one of the best TTers around. The groups will be so small after the climbs that there won't be any domestiques to chase him down. But this is all idle speculation either way :D
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    I'd be surprised. And, as RR says, there are other riders with a much better chance of winning, but this is the Olympics and strange results are commonplace. Who would've bet on Vino winning in London on what was widely billed as a sprinters course?

    The reduced team sizes and severity of the course means it'll be down to a small group of favourites with one or two team mates on the penultimate lap. From then on it'll be a question of getting in the right moves and timing your own move perfectly.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D

    Well if he attacks on the final climb, descends 'like a boy' and ITTs on his own for 15km to take the win, do you mind changing that to "quite very good"?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Joelsim wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D

    Well if he attacks on the final climb, descends 'like a boy' and ITTs on his own for 15km to take the win, do you mind changing that to "quite very good"?

    I never make a prediction or a promise on a grade. If you don't like the grade after final submission you may appeal to the Exam Board who may appoint an independent assessor. :P
    Correlation is not causation.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Joelsim wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D

    Well if he attacks on the final climb, descends 'like a boy' and ITTs on his own for 15km to take the win, do you mind changing that to "quite very good"?

    I never make a prediction or a promise on a grade. If you don't like the grade after final submission you may appeal to the Exam Board who may appoint an independent assessor. :P

    Schoolboy humour!
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Joelsim wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D

    Well if he attacks on the final climb, descends 'like a boy' and ITTs on his own for 15km to take the win, do you mind changing that to "quite very good"?

    I never make a prediction or a promise on a grade. If you don't like the grade after final submission you may appeal to the Exam Board who may appoint an independent assessor. :P

    Schoolboy humour!

    There'll be none of that in my seminar room Joel. :wink:
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Joelsim wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    How good is Chris Froome?

    He's alright, yeah, not bad.

    I've decided this is the answer to this question.

    Yeah I think the answer is "quite good" :D

    Well if he attacks on the final climb, descends 'like a boy' and ITTs on his own for 15km to take the win, do you mind changing that to "quite very good"?

    No, that would be bloody amazing so I would have to upgrade to "extremely good" and give him a special shiny sticker for extra achievement.

    As I said above I think he's shown the kind of riding that could be successful in one day races if he put his mind to it. Whether he will is totally different
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    JackTar wrote:

    Tough climbs? I'll have you know Box Hill is the Alpe d'huez of the South East :wink:
    My summer evening training rides from near Westminster Bridge would take me out through Clapham/Putney Heath to Kingston Hill then Chessington, Leatherhead By Pass and over Box Hill or the harder/steeper Pebblecombe.
    Now why I wonder every time this Olympic course has never used the Pebblecombe Hill climb to complete that circuit. (more of a Mur de Huy climb)
    Box Hill was a steady on the tops grind but never an Alpe d'Huez. :roll:
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  • andyp wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    Who would've bet on Vino winning in London on what was widely billed as a sprinters course?

    With 200m to go I think Uran would have put his house on it... So to speak.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    Tend to agree but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the tactic.
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Seems a decent tactic to me. Yates has shown he's perfectly capable of keeping with the top riders, so if you had he and Froome in a smallish group of 10 or so, then Froome attacks. Would this group want to tow Yates to the end?
  • EnacheV
    EnacheV Posts: 235
    statistically best GT rider since Indurain so pretty decent i guess.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    If he manages to escape and Valverde is in the immediate chasing group he will win (by minutes :wink:)
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    andyp wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    Who would've bet on Vino winning in London on what was widely billed as a sprinters course?

    With 200m to go I think Uran would have put his house on it... So to speak.

    Duran Duran was saving it for Rio.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Joelsim wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    Who would've bet on Vino winning in London on what was widely billed as a sprinters course?

    With 200m to go I think Uran would have put his house on it... So to speak.

    Duran Duran was saving it for Rio.

    :lol:
    Correlation is not causation.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas on Bromptons in Rio:)

    https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/ ... 7804314624
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    I have to say that all these assessments of how good Froome is miss the mark entirely.

    The correct answer is, of course, not half bad.
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  • andyp wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    15km? Seriously, it won't happen.

    Who would've bet on Vino winning in London on what was widely billed as a sprinters course?

    With 200m to go I think Uran would have put his house on it... So to speak.


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  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    I have to say that all these assessments of how good Froome is miss the mark entirely.

    The correct answer is, of course, not half bad.

    Nah, it's " Chris Froome? Seen better, seen worse"
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Garry H wrote:
    I have to say that all these assessments of how good Froome is miss the mark entirely.

    The correct answer is, of course, not half bad.

    Nah, it's " Chris Froome? Seen better, seen worse"

    "He's alright, I suppose. If you like that sort of thing"
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    "We've given up the yellow jersey once and I've seen a pretty disappointed Froomey when he had to hand it over," Sky's Luke Rowe said at the finish. "He won't do it again."
    The guys hungry for wearing that responsibility.
  • oldbazza
    oldbazza Posts: 646
    Sorry wrong thread :roll:
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    French rider Romain Bardet wants his country's fans to show Tour de France rival Chris Froome more respect. Bardet received passionate support on Sunday when the 15th stage passed through his local Auvergne region. However, British race leader Froome suffered some jeers and insults.

    "I heard that Froome was abused at times," said Bardet. "I'm really sorry, he's a champion who should be respected, who I respect as a rival and who doesn't deserve that treatment."
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40633619
    Good to hear from Bardet.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    The double; The glory! He's a good polite humble guy too, not like that GT defecator!
  • ryan_w-2
    ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,162
    I would put Froome on par with me, maybe a little better on the hilly stuff, but I smash him when it comes to TT's, flatter courses....

    And then I wake up and realise I'm sh!t at cycling and not a multimillionaire being paid to play on my bike.

    In all seriousness, I never rated Froome to be 'up there' until last years TdF when he smashed Stage 8 on the descent. He really isn't a one trick pony (climbing), and his TT placings are getting better and better.
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  • shipley
    shipley Posts: 549
    In my opinion he's one of the greats. Trouble is I can't warm to him. He has no style on a bike whatsoever, his team trash the opposition on climbs and there is always a TT close to the end for him to clinch it.

    I know that's probably wrong but I want variety, class ( a la Valverde who looks fabulous on a bike) surprises in the Pro Ranks and not a stick insect fighting with his bike in a silly low gear and those stupid oval chainrings.

    Just my 5p !
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Froome's a great climber, he's always there at the sprint just out of trouble but has the speed, he's a great TT'er and he's a great descender. Plus he's a leader and he's mentally strong enough to boss a GT, unlike other good riders like LRP, NQ, Rigo etc..

    What more do you want for heaven's sake, he's the real deal!
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • ryan_w-2
    ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,162
    He is boring as f**k though. Zero flair or personality IMO.

    Like the Murray of Cycling.
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