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Operacion Puerto : Guess who will retire till new year

EnacheVEnacheV Posts: 235
edited February 2017 in Pro race
So, the blood bags from Operación Puerto will finally be released!

despite the statue of limitations i guess this will finish some careers prematurely.

Ill name a few :

Contador
Valverde

lets do a PTP :D
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 11,833
    Valverde has already served a suspension regarding Puerto.
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 21,042
    I'm genuinely surprised, I thought they'd never see the light of day...

    I think cyclists in general have the least to worry about though given that cycling did actually make an effort to investigate this when it happened...
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  • EnacheVEnacheV Posts: 235
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Valverde has already served a suspension regarding Puerto.

    yeah i know

    but with the fire burning again and with the noise around it i don't think he will ride in 2017
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,350
    EnacheV wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Valverde has already served a suspension regarding Puerto.

    yeah i know

    but with the fire burning again and with the noise around it i don't think he will ride in 2017

    Right, because he's been so repentant and up front about his involvement before?
  • EnacheVEnacheV Posts: 235
    who is still active from that era?

    this just in
    Unfortunately Samuel Sánchez will not be starting #tourdesuisse stage 4 due to a respiratory infection. Get well soon Samu!

    p.s. i love the silence in asylum :D , you would have thought that anti doping heroes would be on this immediately. but i guess it's not Sky related so no interest to crusade.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,256
    Most of the cyclists involved have either already been banned or retired. If you are excited by this I would suggest you in for disappointment.
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  • dinyulldinyull Posts: 2,962
    Is it all the blood bags, or just cycling related?

    Would be really interesting to see the full list.

    What about Fabian?
  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    Valverde is knocking on anyway - he could legitimately retire already. It's not suspicious if he did.
  • EnacheVEnacheV Posts: 235
    RichN95 wrote:
    Most of the cyclists involved have either already been banned or retired. If you are excited by this I would suggest you in for disappointment.

    very probable

    but i guess this will ignite a shitstorm

    if you are named again who will sign you? for example Contador, if his name appears now do you think anyone would give him 1 cent to ride?
  • TurfleTurfle Posts: 3,762
    Good news. If it's all done properly this should hit other sports much harder than cycling.
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 3,341
    Astana would still sign Contador! It's not as if they give a $h!t.

    Hopefully the other sports with their heads buried in the sands will get exposed - could be a few Spanish football teams sweating, along with a few from the world of tennis...
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 52,516 Lives Here
    No hopefully our fears of other sports being doped will be overexaggerated...
  • lostboysaintlostboysaint Posts: 4,252
    Turfle wrote:
    Good news. If it's all done properly this should hit other sports much harder than cycling.

    That. I'd imagine that there's a few footballers (and clubs), tennis players and athletes who may be shitting themselves quietly at this news.
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 13,748
    Any idea when anything's going to be known?
  • stagehopperstagehopper Posts: 1,593
    Release ordered 11 days after WADA's statute of limitation ran out.

    Fuentes cleared in court so his promise to name names will disappear down the pan.

    All very convenient for non-cycling sports.
  • RichN95 wrote:
    Most of the cyclists involved have either already been banned or retired. If you are excited by this I would suggest you in for disappointment.

    This. 35 cyclists were named already.

    Other sports have more to be worried about.

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  • term1teterm1te Posts: 1,462
    I don't suppose too much will come out of this. I expect one, maybe two, retired and long forgotten professional sports people will be sacrificed to public opinion. The source of the rest of the blood bags will remain "unknown" due to medical confidentiality, human rights legislation, or super injunctions. I wouldn't be surprised either if a recently malfunctioned refrigerator rendered many of the samples untraceable.
  • deejaydeejay Posts: 3,138
    You all know my big interest is the Ullrich blood bag and other T Mobile bags.
    The Italians went whole hearted after their riders but the German Federation looked the other way and did nothing untill the riders had come to the end of their careers.
    Still hold the record for TDF green Jersey's and the many MSR wins.
    Bollox.
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  • dinyulldinyull Posts: 2,962
    Apparently it only applies to 36 blood bags.

    23 are cyclist's, 12 "athlete's" and 1 unknown, so don't expect any other sports will be too worried.
  • lostboysaintlostboysaint Posts: 4,252
    The combined supporters of RM and Barca (and particularly their current management) breathe a sigh of relief.
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  • dinyull wrote:
    Apparently it only applies to 36 blood bags.

    23 are cyclist's, 12 "athlete's" and 1 unknown, so don't expect any other sports will be too worried.

    that will be that bog snorkler - it's rife
  • rozzer32rozzer32 Posts: 3,408
    Will actually be surprised if anything comes out of this. It has dragged on for so long and no doubt there will be further delays before bags are released.

    If people do get named the only good message to come out will be that we will still come after you long after you've doped, possibly even after you've retired.
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  • dinyulldinyull Posts: 2,962
    The same source was saying that blood bags wouldn't make sense for football anyway, as the testing for epo was non existent.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,256
    deejay wrote:
    You all know my big interest is the Ullrich blood bag and other T Mobile bags.
    The Italians went whole hearted after their riders but the German Federation looked the other way and did nothing untill the riders had come to the end of their careers.
    Still hold the record for TDF green Jersey's and the many MSR wins.
    Bollox.
    Ullrich's career ended when Puerto broke, he was banned, lost results and he had admitted to his involvement. I'm not sure there's anything left to do to him apart from taking away his cakes.
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  • mr_pollmr_poll Posts: 1,612
    Do the blood bags correspond to anything that can be identifiable? Otherwise surely you have a bag of blood that contains a PED - great but if you cant link it so a high profile named sports star then it isn't much use - I guess WADA haven't DNA profiled all the previous samples to match with a couple dozen of bags.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,256
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  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    dinyull wrote:
    The same source was saying that blood bags wouldn't make sense for football anyway, as the testing for epo was non existent.

    Zidane has already admitted to going for a boost twice per year (not with EF).
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 24,256
    joelsim wrote:
    dinyull wrote:
    The same source was saying that blood bags wouldn't make sense for football anyway, as the testing for epo was non existent.

    Zidane has already admitted to going for a boost twice per year (not with EF).
    Actually he didn't. The singer Johnny Halliday said he did it and that Zidane had suggested it.
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  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    joelsim wrote:
    dinyull wrote:
    The same source was saying that blood bags wouldn't make sense for football anyway, as the testing for epo was non existent.

    Zidane has already admitted to going for a boost twice per year (not with EF).
    Actually he didn't. The singer Johnny Halliday said he did it and that Zidane had suggested it.

    Yes, you are correct.
  • philbar72philbar72 Posts: 2,228
    so this also goes before the rise of the Spanish football team into world beaters. think 2008 was when they really started dominating the euro's and world cups. do we think that this in any way infers any form of drugs or doping, or were they just really good?

    also the cyclists on this list would have all retired with the exception of a few 35+year olds I'd suggest...
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