No more Phil and Paul on ITV4
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Anybody else getting vertigo when the focus goes out when watching in HD?
Every now and then the camera loses focus and I think it's really pronounced when I watch it in HD.0 -
I'm enjoying it so far just for the different perspectives it's giving, especially from Millar, like explaining how the sprint teams are getting involved with the GC teams up to the 3km banner, that sort of insight you didn't get before as it was just describing the action.0
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Watched 'The Program' recently, which has P&P on most of the archive footage and spliced into the recreations. Highlighted how much they had dropped off in recent years.
I'm finding the ITV4 highlights package excellent this year (stage 1 finish edit excepted), really good combination of commentary, interviews, information.0 -
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Its no criticism of the commentators as it must be the hardest gig going, but does anyone listen to the (limited) commentary of BBC 5 Live Extra? On a stage like yesterday, prior to the final sprint, its real clutching at straws stuff!2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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For something different I tried watching the Tour on S4C, quite interesting to listen to it in Welsh
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Into week 3, and i can't say I'm missing P&P. Boulting, whilst not perfect is getting better. Millar continues to give good insight. Boardman and Imlach were great studio anchors, but with Chris having to depart, Jens Voigt seems pretty good stand in. Matt and Daniel doing okay as roving reporters. I do like the interviews that they are using to fill boring bits. Good innovation. Nice to hear direct from team cars during the race. So whilst not perfect, i think they have a winning formula. Plus of course they have the recap/silly stuff in their podcast.0
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yourpaceormine wrote:I do like the interviews that they are using to fill boring bits. Good innovation. Nice to hear direct from team cars during the race.
I don't like this - they seem to feel the need to talk about cycling all the time.0 -
They still do it for a USA network, NBC I think. I occasionally stream a bit for nostalgia.ShinyHelmut wrote:
Never let P&P near a microphone again. Ever.Paul & Phil, with Millar giving professional insight would be most welcome0 -
dougzz wrote:They still do it for a USA network, NBC I think. I occasionally stream a bit for nostalgia.
Am in US for the week for work. Chuckle Brothers on NBC the only option. Just a reminder of how bad they truly are. And now freed from the 'shackles' of having to cater for UK audience, they are even more US-obsessed.
No mention of LIttle Tommy Voeckler yet tho...@shraap | My Men 2016: G, Yogi, Cav, Boonen, Degenkolb, Martin, J-Rod, Kudus, Chaves0 -
I hope Boulting quits the gig... Millar's great though, when he can get a word in.0
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Pack your suti case of courage, join the heads of state in the bar, and time trial your way through it..........chrisday wrote:
Am in US for the week for work. Chuckle Brothers on NBC the only option. Just a reminder of how bad they truly are. And now freed from the 'shackles' of having to cater for UK audience, they are even more US-obsessed.dougzz wrote:They still do it for a USA network, NBC I think. I occasionally stream a bit for nostalgia.
No mention of LIttle Tommy Voeckler yet tho...0 -
In case anyone else listens, last day of coverage on BBC 5Live Extra today, as the Cricket Test Match begins tomorrow ...
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Watching the Vuelta, it's like listening to Peter Cook and Dudley Moore instead of Tommy Cannon and Bobby Ball.0
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KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:Watching the Vuelta, it's like listening to Peter Cook and Dudley Moore instead of Tommy Cannon and Bobby Ball.
It's hard to gauge if that's a good thing or a bad thing?0 -
McStumpy wrote:KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:Watching the Vuelta, it's like listening to Peter Cook and Dudley Moore instead of Tommy Cannon and Bobby Ball.
It's hard to gauge if that's a good thing or a bad thing?
Well if you prefer inanity and buffoonery to insight and intelligence, then it's a bad thing.0 -
Millar and Boulting on ITV's Vuelta coverage is fantastic.
With Imlach in the studio and Freibe doing interviews it is pretty much perfect stage race commentary (Freibe's command of European languages for the interviews is incredible!).
The contrast between listening to that idiot Kirby's inane nonsense on the live Eurosport coverage and the ITV highlights is night and day. Flecha and Ashley House aren't great either.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:Millar and Boulting on ITV's Vuelta coverage is fantastic.
With Imlach in the studio and Freibe doing interviews it is pretty much perfect stage race commentary (Freibe's command of European languages for the interviews is incredible!).
The contrast between listening to that idiot Kirby's inane nonsense on the live Eurosport coverage and the ITV highlights is night and day. Flecha and Ashley House aren't great either.
It's all a matter of taste isn't it. I stick to Eurosport for two reasons - one is the amount of ads on ITV and the other is Boulting. I agree that Carlton should stick to motorsport (only because I don't watch motorsport) but for the love of God what attraction does Ned's commentary have for some of you.
In the same way that if you want to feel attractive and successful shop in Asda, if you want to feel like you could be a cycling commentator listen to Ned Boulting. His style isn't so much man of the people as random man off the street - though you'd be hard pressed to find a man on the average street that would sound so amateurish. He is the one commentator that makes you think perhaps Carlton's Smashey and Nicey approach isn't so bad after all.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
DeVlaeminck wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Millar and Boulting on ITV's Vuelta coverage is fantastic.
With Imlach in the studio and Freibe doing interviews it is pretty much perfect stage race commentary (Freibe's command of European languages for the interviews is incredible!).
The contrast between listening to that idiot Kirby's inane nonsense on the live Eurosport coverage and the ITV highlights is night and day. Flecha and Ashley House aren't great either.
It's all a matter of taste isn't it. I stick to Eurosport for two reasons - one is the amount of ads on ITV and the other is Boulting. I agree that Carlton should stick to motorsport (only because I don't watch motorsport) but for the love of God what attraction does Ned's commentary have for some of you.
In the same way that if you want to feel attractive and successful shop in Asda, if you want to feel like you could be a cycling commentator listen to Ned Boulting. His style isn't so much man of the people as random man off the street - though you'd be hard pressed to find a man on the average street that would sound so amateurish. He is the one commentator that makes you think perhaps Carlton's Smashey and Nicey approach isn't so bad after all.
Sort of getting used to Boulting.
On the other hand, I would really miss Millar's insight now, he is superb.
Imlach is the best anchor in TV sport hand's down.
2 out of 3 ain't bad, just a shame we hear more from NB than anyone else really.0 -
joe2008 wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Millar and Boulting on ITV's Vuelta coverage is fantastic.
With Imlach in the studio and Freibe doing interviews it is pretty much perfect stage race commentary (Freibe's command of European languages for the interviews is incredible!).
The contrast between listening to that idiot Kirby's inane nonsense on the live Eurosport coverage and the ITV highlights is night and day. Flecha and Ashley House aren't great either.
It's all a matter of taste isn't it. I stick to Eurosport for two reasons - one is the amount of ads on ITV and the other is Boulting. I agree that Carlton should stick to motorsport (only because I don't watch motorsport) but for the love of God what attraction does Ned's commentary have for some of you.
In the same way that if you want to feel attractive and successful shop in Asda, if you want to feel like you could be a cycling commentator listen to Ned Boulting. His style isn't so much man of the people as random man off the street - though you'd be hard pressed to find a man on the average street that would sound so amateurish. He is the one commentator that makes you think perhaps Carlton's Smashey and Nicey approach isn't so bad after all.
Sort of getting used to Boulting.
On the other hand, I would really miss Millar's insight now, he is superb.
Imlach is the best anchor in TV sport hand's down.
2 out of 3 ain't bad, just a shame we hear more from NB than anyone else really.
It's 100% a matter of taste I agree.
I grew up listening to Paul and Phil, and was disappointed when I heard they were off, but I love Millar's commentary, as well as Boultings input, and it feels to me like they have a really good chemistry as a pairing, so I can only see them getting better as a pairing, there have been significant improvements already.
I can't really stand the eurosport chap, sounds like a dj to me.
Imlach is a perfect studio man for Cycling.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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Got to say Ned really doesn't do it for me. Amateur.0
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Ned's problem is he talks too much, Kirby's problem is that he talks at all.0
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Pross wrote:Ned's problem is he talks too much, Kirby's problem is that he talks at all.
They all talk too much. Kirby's dismissal of a castle as the "Castillo of something or other", like the scenery isn't an important part of the race0 -
Daniel B wrote:joe2008 wrote:DeVlaeminck wrote:
I can't really stand the eurosport chap, sounds like a dj to me.
Imlach is a perfect studio man for Cycling.
Possibly someone's idea of hell, but I'm sure I read on a long lost interview that he was a breakfast DJ on some tropical island.
Imagine washing ashore like Robinson Crusoe with a transistor radio and dialling up DJ Carlton... you'd jump back in the sea!0 -
Boulting's still a beginner. He's only been commentating for about a year. He'll improve. He works well with Millar.
I'm guessing Rob Hatch doesn't get his round in at the Eurosport pub. It's the only possible reason he's not first choice ahead of Kirby. Comfortably the best in my opinion. Hatch & Millar - that would be something.Twitter: @RichN950 -
RichN95 wrote:Boulting's still a beginner. He's only been commentating for about a year. He'll improve. He works well with Millar.
I'm guessing Rob Hatch doesn't get his round in at the Eurosport pub. It's the only possible reason he's not first choice ahead of Kirby. Comfortably the best in my opinion. Hatch & Millar - that would be something.
I guess there's a pecking order - before Harmon ceased, Kirby was their next most used commentator, followed by Hatch. Hatch is a lot less experienced as a broadcaster than Kirby and when DH was being replaced, CK was the most viable option.0 -
I can't imagine Kirby is the top of any pecking order, he's probably just cheap and available. I think Hatch has other priorities - he does a lot of work for 5live (he's covering the Paralympics at the moment).0
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I imagine that Kirby is great company. A person that people really enjoy spending time with - generally, not on TV. That's someone I'd keep on as an employer.thegibdog wrote:I can't imagine Kirby is the top of any pecking order, he's probably just cheap and available. I think Hatch has other priorities - he does a lot of work for 5live (he's covering the Paralympics at the moment).Twitter: @RichN950 -
Kirby is fine 90% of the time, but he gets carried away when not much is happening, rather believing/imagining his own legend at times, cracking xenophobic gags.
If he cut down on that aspect and just chatted without trying to be funny or clever then it would be of benefit to all.
As someone who can talk, link, keep a flow he is actually very good. When listening to ToB and other races it's very apparent that Kirby is streets ahead on ability, if only he'd realise that we aren't after his favourites or making fun of Johnny Foreigner.0
