Henao, you're a rockstar, get your show on, get paid!
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He looks like Beaker from the Muppets0
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Regretting not going with "Henao Henao, what's the matter with you?"“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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TailWindHome wrote:Regretting not going with "Henao Henao, what's the matter with you?"
see that would have been more original, but both are good...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Assume the loony bin has gone off the charts?
Dan Benson having to pimp Stephen Farrand and Barry Ryan to put down payment for an extra server or two, apparently
We do like a bit of hyperbole eh?
Since this new broke yesterday the Henao thread in the clinic only added 3 pages yesterday and only 2 pages on the Sky tread... other action is a bit of scepticism about Valverde, motors in bike rumours, something about Dutch Olympic doping, and an admittedly mad thread about some complex scheme by which Le Mond doped.
Only 74 comments under the Henao article on CN.
I can't speak for twitter... but talk about creating the strawman 'other'...0 -
tim000 wrote:Joelsim wrote:I've got to admit, I don't get the thread title at all
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dish_dash wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Assume the loony bin has gone off the charts?
Dan Benson having to pimp Stephen Farrand and Barry Ryan to put down payment for an extra server or two, apparently
We do like a bit of hyperbole eh?
Since this new broke yesterday the Henao thread in the clinic only added 3 pages yesterday and only 2 pages on the Sky tread... other action is a bit of scepticism about Valverde, motors in bike rumours, something about Dutch Olympic doping, and an admittedly mad thread about some complex scheme by which Le Mond doped.
Only 74 comments under the Henao article on CN.
I can't speak for twitter... but talk about creating the strawman 'other'...
I've said a million times there's no hyperbole (is that Grega's brother?)0 -
Very droll0
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Song is older than I am.
Not very old then. I've got underwear older than you are.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Song is older than I am.
Not very old then. I've got underwear older than you are.
That says more about you than me.0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:hyperbole (is that Grega's brother?)
The sea, RR. Get in it.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
RichN95 wrote:
The problem is that a study on a single individual isn't worth much so they'll need other subjects.dish_dash wrote:No study published yet. Once they went that route they should have got it out asap. But it's an academic paper and takes a while etc etc
Really depends what the paper is claiming. Black swan papers can be important if the observation is robust and verifiable, even if seen in only one subject.0 -
The paper wasn't Sky's responsibility to publish, it's a medical thing and having worked on publishing a medical paper with a scientist at Harvard that is absolutely the case. It's also not a quick job.
I may have pointed that out to Shane Stokes last night, along with a copy of his Lance piece. Not happy.0 -
The Asylum contains some of the densest people on the Interweb, and that's saying something.0
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Pokerface wrote:Joelsim wrote:Ben6899 wrote:Joelsim wrote:RichN95 wrote:Joelsim wrote:I've got to admit, I don't get the thread title at all
It's a Crowded House/Paul Young song
Personally his name always makes me think of Hank in The Larry Sanders Show
Oh that song.
But I have no idea who Hank is as I've never seen TLSS. In fact I have no idea who Larry Sanders is.
You don't know who Larry Sanders is?
I've heard the name but I don't know what he looks like.
Currently he looks somewhat dead.
He looks very much alive and kicking in this photo...
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Bit of a strange one all round really. Team identifies discrepancies themselves that the testers haven't raised, voluntarily suspend the rider and carry out detail testing, independent report apparently concludes there's nothing dodgy, governing body finally spot the abnormalities themselves over a year later, rider gets voluntarily suspended again but has team's support, governing body finally agrees with independent report that there's nothing to see. Meanwhile some higher hanging fruit is probably sitting unpicked. It almost feels like the UCI had to be seen to be doing something in the face of all the unfounded manure being thrown around at the last few Tours.0
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no smoke without fire IMO0
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Have you ever read The Sports Gene by David Epstein?ozzzyosborn206 wrote:no smoke without fire IMO
In it there is a whole chapter devoted to the blood of altitude natives. That's your fire.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Logically an altitude-native should compensate for the lack of oxygen better than someone from Blackpool.
I'd be really interested to see Quintana's vitals compared to Henao.
It could be a get out of jail free card if not thoroughly investigated though.0 -
There was a mildly interesting docu on yetis over the weekend. DNA testing of claimed yeti relics. In it they mentioned about an earlier human species (not neanderthal ) which passed a gene down to peoples of the high Himalayas (Tibetans, Sherpas) which allowed them to live at altitude without their blood thickening, as it would for us. This discovery of the human species, and its interbreeding with homo sapiens, and the sharing of this high altitude gene is pretty recent, and much more work is needed to be done.
Doesn't take much conjecture to reason that something similar could well be the case for other high altitude, and what were until relatively recently, isolated communities.0 -
ozzzyosborn206 wrote:no smoke without fire IMO
Ah, the last refuge of the "I have no evidence, but f*ck it, i'll believe it anyway" thought process.0 -
It would be a mistake to think that altitude natives in different continents have the same blood - because they don'tyourpaceormine wrote:There was a mildly interesting docu on yetis over the weekend. DNA testing of claimed yeti relics. In it they mentioned about an earlier human species (not neanderthal ) which passed a gene down to peoples of the high Himalayas (Tibetans, Sherpas) which allowed them to live at altitude without their blood thickening, as it would for us. This discovery of the human species, and its interbreeding with homo sapiens, and the sharing of this high altitude gene is pretty recent, and much more work is needed to be done.
Doesn't take much conjecture to reason that something similar could well be the case for other high altitude, and what were until relatively recently, isolated communities.
Those in the Himalayas have a very high concentration of Nitric Oxide in their blood, which means that their actual red blood cells are like ours but they move around a lot quicker, so they are effectively in a constant state of hyperventilation
Those in the Andes only arrived their a few centuries ago. So those that had blood which responded the best to change in altitude thrived. Hence Columbians from altitude get a bigger than average HCT boost from going to altitude.
Those in East Africa have been up there for 10,000+ years so they have evolved differently. Their blood responses little to altitude changes. Instead their red blood cells are much more efficient at carrying oxygen.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Ozzy really needs to read the Sports Gene (as recommended by Rich)
Lots of variables that need to be taken into account, history, ethnicity and even just good old freaks of nature all play a part.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Think I will, guessing theres lot of other interesting parts in there too?iainf72 wrote:Ozzy really needs to read the Sports Gene (as recommended by Rich)
Lots of variables that need to be taken into account, history, ethnicity and even just good old freaks of nature all play a part.0 -
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RichN95 wrote:
It would be a mistake to think that altitude natives in different continents have the same blood - because they don'tyourpaceormine wrote:There was a mildly interesting docu on yetis over the weekend. DNA testing of claimed yeti relics. In it they mentioned about an earlier human species (not neanderthal ) which passed a gene down to peoples of the high Himalayas (Tibetans, Sherpas) which allowed them to live at altitude without their blood thickening, as it would for us. This discovery of the human species, and its interbreeding with homo sapiens, and the sharing of this high altitude gene is pretty recent, and much more work is needed to be done.
Doesn't take much conjecture to reason that something similar could well be the case for other high altitude, and what were until relatively recently, isolated communities.
Those in the Himalayas have a very high concentration of Nitric Oxide in their blood, which means that their actual red blood cells are like ours but they move around a lot quicker, so they are effectively in a constant state of hyperventilation
Those in the Andes only arrived their a few centuries ago. So those that had blood which responded the best to change in altitude thrived. Hence Columbians from altitude get a bigger than average HCT boost from going to altitude.
Those in East Africa have been up there for 10,000+ years so they have evolved differently. Their blood responses little to altitude changes. Instead their red blood cells are much more efficient at carrying oxygen.
Rich behave yourself, this is the internet - stop bringing knowledge, facts and science into things. Robust 'I know' opinion is all that's needed here....0 -
yourpaceormine wrote:There was a mildly interesting docu on yetis over the weekend. DNA testing of claimed yeti relics. In it they mentioned about an earlier human species (not neanderthal ) which passed a gene down to peoples of the high Himalayas (Tibetans, Sherpas) which allowed them to live at altitude without their blood thickening, as it would for us. This discovery of the human species, and its interbreeding with homo sapiens, and the sharing of this high altitude gene is pretty recent, and much more work is needed to be done.
Doesn't take much conjecture to reason that something similar could well be the case for other high altitude, and what were until relatively recently, isolated communities.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/07/tibetans-inherited-high-altitude-gene-ancient-human0 -
RichN95 wrote:It would be a mistake to think that altitude natives in different continents have the same blood - because they don't
Those in the Himalayas have a very high concentration of Nitric Oxide in their blood, which means that their actual red blood cells are like ours but they move around a lot quicker, so they are effectively in a constant state of hyperventilation
Those in the Andes only arrived their a few centuries ago. So those that had blood which responded the best to change in altitude thrived. Hence Columbians from altitude get a bigger than average HCT boost from going to altitude.
Those in East Africa have been up there for 10,000+ years so they have evolved differently. Their blood responses little to altitude changes. Instead their red blood cells are much more efficient at carrying oxygen.
But the Tibetans do actually hyperventilate- almost 50% more air inspired per minute compared with andeans, both living at altitude. The NO dilates blood vessels to increase blood flow through the lungs and to the muscles. (Incidentally, this is the same pathway that sildenefil (viagra) works on and is why it is used for pulmonary hypertension).
As you say, different solution in the evolution of andeans (over a few millennia, not centuries) to solve the same problem. Andeans living in similar environments have much higher hemaglobin levels.0
