Giro Pre Race Chat - Not for Spoilers!

pinno

Some pre-race odds.
Esteban Chaves 50-1. Fat Boy slim 150-1

Vincenzo Nibali 6/4
Davide Formolo 250/1
Andre Cardoso 500/1
Mikel Landa 2/1
David Lopez 250/1
Francesco Bongiorno 500/1
Alejandro Valverde 6/1
Primoz Roglic 300/1
Carlos Verona 500/1
Rafal Majka14/1
Gianluca Brambilla 300/1
Alessandro De Marchi 500/1
Rigoberto Uran 14/1
Tim Wellens 300/1
Darwin Atapuma 500/1
Ilnur Zakarin 16/1
Przemyslaw Niemiec 300/1
Matteo Montaguti 500/1
Tom Dumoulin 22/1
Igor Anton 300/1
Giulio Ciccone 500/1
Domenico Pozzovivo 33/1
Diego Ulissi 400/1
Arnaud Courteille 500/1
Jakob Fuglsang 40/1
Damiano Cunego 400/1
Philip Deignan 500/1
Esteban Chaves 50/1
Eros Capecchi 400/1
Hubert Dupont 500/1
Jean Christophe Peraud 66/1
Nicolas Roche 400/1
Jelle Vanendert 500/1
Ryder Hesjedal 125/1
Stefano Pirazzi 500/1
Giovanni Visconti 500/1
Steven Kruijswijk 125/1
David De La Cruz 500/1
Jesus Hernandez 500/1
Michele Scarponi 150/1
Maxime Monfort 500/1
Marcel Wyss 500/1
Carlos Betancur 150/1
Kanstantin Siutsou 500/1
Daniel Martinez 500/1
Andrey Amador 150/1
Sebastian Henao 500/1
Simon Clarke 500/1
Rein Taaramae 200/1
Simone Petilli 500/1
Pawel Poljanski 500/1
Mikel Nieve 200/1
Fabian Cancellara 500/1
Merhawi Kudus 500/1
Sergey Firsanov 200/1
Jose Herrada 500/1
Riccardo Zoidl 500/1
Tanel Kangert 200/1
Alexander Foliforov 500/1
Valerio Agnoli 500/1
Jo Dombrowski 200/1
Ruben Fernandez 500/1
Guillaume Bonnafond 500/1
Alexandre Geniez 200/1

Richmond Racer 2

dish_dash wrote:

So we get an Albanian rider at the Giro but not a single British rider eh?

It's a shame

I thought ladies favourite li'l Pete was riding it but he's being dispatched to the colonies to ride ToC

ddraver

Lots of SJWs out there to welcome him!

adr82

Pinno wrote:

Some pre-race odds.

Is there anyone at 5000-1 we can all bet on?

RichN95.

150/1 on Amador who was 4th last year? Got to be worth a quid each way.

joelsim

Zakarin looks excellent value.

joelsim

RichN95 wrote:

150/1 on Amador who was 4th last year? Got to be worth a quid each way.

He's riding for Bala.

joelsim

Double

inseine

dish_dash wrote:

So we get an Albanian rider at the Giro but not a single British rider eh?

34 nationalities! These countries have just one...
Eritrea
Japan
Costa Rica
Norway
Romania
Sweden
New Zealand
Brazil
Albania
Portugal
China

professeur

Joelsim wrote:

Zakarin looks excellent value.

He's a tricky one to place - obvious all-round talent but only one previous GT finish (44th in Giro 2015).

rick_chasey

professeur wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Zakarin looks excellent value.

He's a tricky one to place - obvious all-round talent but only one previous GT finish (44th in Giro 2015).

Did win a stage though.

Shadowrider

I think we'll see a Nibali, Valverde, Landa podium with Uran and Maijka bulking the top 5. In that order. Landa will loose too much time in Time Trials to come close to Nibali, who will most likely walk this by 5 or 6 minutes.

joelsim

professeur wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Zakarin looks excellent value.

He's a tricky one to place - obvious all-round talent but only one previous GT finish (44th in Giro 2015).

Yep, he lost huge time on one stage for some reason early last time. But he can climb, he can TT and he is on form. And he's already had a 2 year ban, so he has all the attributes to win a Giro.

Richmond Racer 2

Joelsim wrote:

professeur wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Zakarin looks excellent value.

He's a tricky one to place - obvious all-round talent but only one previous GT finish (44th in Giro 2015).

Yep, he lost huge time on one stage for some reason early last time. But he can climb, he can TT and he is on form. And he's already had a 2 year ban, so he has all the attributes to win a Giro.

Very good very good

RonB

Follow "Our Man" Hugo on twitter with #HHPower

RichN95.

My Giro bets:

Kruijswijk - GC 125/1 each way
Firsanov - Podium finish 125/1
Bongiorno - Top Ten 25/1

GC head to heads
Peraud to beat Dumoulin 5/4
Pozzovivo to beat Majka 15/8
Fuglsang to beat Zakarin 13/8
Uran to beat Valverde 7/4
Firsanov to beat Anton Evens
Demare to beat Vivani 2/1 (Points jersey)

takethehighroad

Anton at Dimension Data is an odd mix isn't it?

Think Pozzovivo will have a good Giro, and Majka will flatter to deceive

rick_chasey

Very decent and good odds too.

rick_chasey

You can see why they keep going back Holland for these things.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Girogelderla ... 5893258240

tailwindhome

How is the starting order for the prologue determined?

rick_chasey

Check spoiler thread.

joelsim

RichN95 wrote:

My Giro bets:

Kruijswijk - GC 125/1 each way
Firsanov - Podium finish 125/1
Bongiorno - Top Ten 25/1

GC head to heads
Peraud to beat Dumoulin 5/4
Pozzovivo to beat Majka 15/8
Fuglsang to beat Zakarin 13/8
Uran to beat Valverde 7/4
Firsanov to beat Anton Evens
Demare to beat Vivani 2/1 (Points jersey)

Couldn't resist that Firsanov podium at 125/1.

Plus Zakarin for overall EW 14/1

And an acca on:
Ryder > Amador
Firsanov > Anton
Brambilla > Roche
Kruijswijk > Scarponi
Zakarin > Fuglsang
Taaramae > Kangert
Piti > Duran Duran

dish_dash

inseine wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

So we get an Albanian rider at the Giro but not a single British rider eh?

34 nationalities! These countries have just one...
Eritrea
Japan
Costa Rica
Norway
Romania
Sweden
New Zealand
Brazil
Albania
Portugal
China

There are 20 Russians in this race. By my count that makes them the second largest country representation after Italy. More Russians than Dutch, French, or Spanish riders. Katusha and Gazprom all Russian riders apart from Taarame plus 3 at Tinkoff. Be interesting how that plays out...

bobmcstuff

Firsanov at 150/1 on Paddy Power.

Stuck an e/w on - I'll blame you lot if I lose money

professeur

dish_dash wrote:

inseine wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

So we get an Albanian rider at the Giro but not a single British rider eh?

34 nationalities! These countries have just one...
Eritrea
Japan
Costa Rica
Norway
Romania
Sweden
New Zealand
Brazil
Albania
Portugal
China

There are 20 Russians in this race. By my count that makes them the second largest country representation after Italy. More Russians than Dutch, French, or Spanish riders. Katusha and Gazprom all Russian riders apart from Taarame plus 3 at Tinkoff. Be interesting how that plays out...

It wasn't a roaring success for Katusha in the 2011(?) TdF when they went all-Russian, IIRC.

inseine

dish_dash wrote:

inseine wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

So we get an Albanian rider at the Giro but not a single British rider eh?

34 nationalities! These countries have just one...
Eritrea
Japan
Costa Rica
Norway
Romania
Sweden
New Zealand
Brazil
Albania
Portugal
China

There are 20 Russians in this race. By my count that makes them the second largest country representation after Italy. More Russians than Dutch, French, or Spanish riders. Katusha and Gazprom all Russian riders apart from Taarame plus 3 at Tinkoff. Be interesting how that plays out...

Funny one with Russia. They are only the 13th ranked nation. They are only there in number because two teams and totally Russian (bar one rider). Seems like they are picked for their nationality rather than ability. I've heard it said that Katusha is (or was) a soft route for home grown riders.

joelsim

Giro Pizza.

https://twitter.com/Joelsimi/status/728560206762921984

#happydays

tailwindhome

Rick Chasey wrote:

Check spoiler thread.

If that is in relation to

How is the starting order for the prologue determined?

I don't see it discussed.

dish_dash

So apparently there will be no OGE backstage pass as the organisers have told Dan Jones that he can't film or use any "vision" from the race.

tailwindhome

Why not a Friday night start?
Stupid.