Some Russian Chump...

RichN95.
RichN95. Posts: 27,253
edited July 2016 in Pro race
...has tested positive out of competition for something called medonium. Vorgonov is his name.

Due to him and Party Boy Paolini, Katusha will now face a ban. Kristoff for one will hope they get it out of the way quickly.
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    edited February 2016
    The specific substance was added to the Prohibited List on 1 Jan 2015. This List can go up as well as down, Vorgonov
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Dang... not good for my man Kristoff. Though I thought Paolini hasn't been sanctioned yet (b-sample etc).

    Here is naughty Eduard Vorganov
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  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dang... not good for my man Kristoff. Though I thought Paolini hasn't been sanctioned yet (b-sample etc).

    Here is naughty Eduard Vorganov
    VORGANOV_EDUARD.jpg


    Paolini's confessed though. So no B sample test was required. Going through the Disciplinary shizz innit
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dang... not good for my man Kristoff. Though I thought Paolini hasn't been sanctioned yet (b-sample etc).
    I think the team suspension just needs the A sample not a sanction. 15-45 days.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Dilemma for Katusha. Do they:

    a) pressure chumpo to waive b-sample and take the hit to get the ban out the way asap, or;
    b) stretch it out as long as possible and hope to get the classics out the way before the ban kicks in?
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    ta...

    What is the substance? Medonium seems to be some sort of video game thing and the google suggested correction of mecodium is apparently "the dark green substance forming the first faeces of a newborn infant"... :shock:

    EDIT: It's Meldonium. A substance that "improves the quality of life, exercise capacity and mechanisms of peripheral circulation of patients with chronic heart failure"
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    The_Boy wrote:
    Dilemma for Katusha. Do they:

    a) pressure chumpo to waive b-sample and take the hit to get the ban out the way asap, or;
    b) stretch it out as long as possible and hope to get the classics out the way before the ban kicks in?


    It's either P-N and TA, the Classics or The Giro isn't it?

    Maybe they should send Zakarin on holiday somewhere remote for the rest of the year.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    I think they'll avoid a ban.

    If at least one of the violations involves no team members. That could easily be Luca's toot.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Any ban will probably be on the low side given the gear involved, Paolini taking the rap and the fact it's a WT team.
    21 days from today and they can return just in time to line up at Het Nieuwsblad.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Joelsim wrote:
    I think they'll avoid a ban.

    If at least one of the violations involves no team members. That could easily be Luca's toot.
    That's not the point of the rule though, it's to promote collective responsibility. Like when everyone had to do press ups while Private Pyle ate donuts.
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    The Katusha re-branding wasn't so cleansing after all.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    I have no idea what Meldonium is but I want some! Sounds like it would turn one into an X-man
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    ddraver wrote:
    I have no idea what Meldonium is but I want some! Sounds like it would turn one into an X-man

    Just go to amazon...

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  • thchris1958
    thchris1958 Posts: 117
    ^^^^^^ but : "Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock" on Amazon.

    And they have Caruso suspended in August 2015
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    thchris1958 wrote:
    ^^^^^^ but : "Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock" on Amazon.

    And they have Caruso suspended in August 2015

    Caruso isn't counted as was a retrospective.
  • thchris1958
    thchris1958 Posts: 117
    ^^^^^^thanks ^^^^
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    I think they'll avoid a ban.

    If at least one of the violations involves no team members. That could easily be Luca's toot.
    That's not the point of the rule though, it's to promote collective responsibility. Like when everyone had to do press ups while Private Pyle ate donuts.
    Does this mean Luca is going to go mad and shoot Cookson?
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Details will be given today of the verdict. Cookson has already said it is not his decision but that of the DC.

    It'll also be interesting to see what Katusha do about MPCC as they will miss P-N and TA unless they leave.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Il Gerva was only on the recreational so Katusha avoid a ban...
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Funnily enough I think that's the correct decision in this case. Personally I would give them a 45 day ban when their next rider is popped though.
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Joelsim wrote:
    Details will be given today of the verdict. Cookson has already said it is not his decision but that of the DC.

    It'll also be interesting to see what Katusha do about MPCC as they will miss P-N and TA unless they leave.

    I suspect they will quit the MPCC then.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    I kinda dig that to be honest

    LPs issues were far more psychological than performance related
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    I'm OK with that. Got to be heavy when the next rider gets caught though.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Joelsim wrote:
    Funnily enough I think that's the correct decision in this case. Personally I would give them a 45 day ban when their next rider is popped though.
    ddraver wrote:
    I kinda dig that to be honest. LPs issues were far more psychological than performance related

    да
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    You lot and your double standards.
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Its only a matter of time.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    You lot and your double standards.

    Why is it double standards? It's not in anyone's interests to have a rider addicted to toot.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    Its only a matter of time.

    ^Yup
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    You lot and your double standards.

    It's not a double standard, it's a nuanced view :wink:
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    You lot and your double standards.

    It's not a double standard, it's a nuanced view :wink:

    Majority of regulars kissed goodbye to that a long time ago.
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