Froome's Data
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There's a reason maca has "loon" in his name
Oi, I resemble that implication!0 -
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Keep drinking the loonaid....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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There are other parts of the forum outside Pro Race?No I didn't think so.
Do frequent other parts of the forum.
There's a reason maca has "loon" in his name
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but why the sudden improvement in performance now ? are you internet doping . do we have any evidence of a steady increase in performance ? no . show us the data .Alright Alex?
Picked up the forum pretty fast after one post!
Mmm... Suspicious. Has no presence before end 2015, then wham! Straight in with a pertinent post...
Either the content on this forum is child's play or someone is telling him the answers... If indeed Alex is a "him": fallen for that one before, too...
I can provide evidence going back to 2007 that I always had the potential to take part in internet discussions on cycling at the very highest levels.
Just be sure to get your fax straight."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
If Richard Moore is still around I'd like to ask if he's happy with the front cover of Pro Cycling
"TESTING TIMES. CHRIS FROOME. How he really went from journeyman to Tour winner......"
Now I haven't read the article yet. The magazine has only just arrived. But given everything which went on in the Lance Era that seems a bold claim....“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
If Richard Moore is still around I'd like to ask if he's happy with the front cover of Pro Cycling
"TESTING TIMES. CHRIS FROOME. How he really went from journeyman to Tour winner......"
Now I haven't read the article yet. The magazine has only just arrived. But given everything which went on in the Lance Era that seems a bold claim....
Quick scan makes me think it's the same article that was published in esquire.0 -
Wow, you guys sure like new posters here! Glad to meet you allIt's fairly easy.
Your IP isn't associated with any other account.
So let us know which account you had, I can search for it on the database and find it. 0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772790#p19772790]World of Wigans[/url] wrote:
Wow, you guys sure like new posters here! Glad to meet you allIt's fairly easy.
Your IP isn't associated with any other account.
So let us know which account you had, I can search for it on the database and find it.
New posters who exclusively post in doping threads are very likely to be trolls.
So far you've made 3 posts, all of which are in doping related threads.
Kinda makes me think you have an agenda that isn't so much related to cycling as it is doping conspiracy theories.
Feel free to prove me wrong.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772790#p19772790]World of Wigans[/url] wrote:
Wow, you guys sure like new posters here! Glad to meet you allIt's fairly easy.
Your IP isn't associated with any other account.
So let us know which account you had, I can search for it on the database and find it.
It is blindingly obvious 99% of the time. What's your name in the other place?0 -
Froome has posted another picture of his baby on Twitter. If we compare it to the photo from last month, he appears to have gained weight and power. How is this possible in just one month without doping? It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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Froome has posted another picture of his baby on Twitter. If we compare it to the photo from last month, he appears to have gained weight and power. How is this possible in just one month without doping?
Froome's always holding the baby up high in pictures - it's the altitude training, clearly...@shraap | My Men 2016: G, Yogi, Cav, Boonen, Degenkolb, Martin, J-Rod, Kudus, Chaves0 -
Froome has posted another picture of his baby on Twitter. If we compare it to the photo from last month, he appears to have gained weight and power. How is this possible in just one month without doping?
The baby also bears more than a passing resemblance to Chris Horner and Tom Danielson.
Doper!!!!0 -
Thank god this thread isn't actually discussing something serious anymore, I was worried for a while there.0
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Please elaborate.... :? :?:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19772790#p19772790]World of Wigans[/url] wrote:
Wow, you guys sure like new posters here! Glad to meet you allIt's fairly easy.
Your IP isn't associated with any other account.
So let us know which account you had, I can search for it on the database and find it.
It is blindingly obvious 99% of the time. What's your name in the other place?0 -
Please don't....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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Please don't.
I won't. Too dull by half.0 -
Why not?Please don't.
Just getting some background on the forum.
Guess that's a no-no....0 -
You're only interested in dope. Do one.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774227#p19774227]World of Wigans[/url] wrote:
Why not?Please don't.
Just getting some background on the forum.
Guess that's a no-no....But you know he's good for snorting down anything in powdered form...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
I only got to page 5 in this 'great' debate. Did anyone mention the Bilharzia? Apols if it was mentioned. He finally got rid if the parasite around the time he started to get good. After years of struggling and still riding as a pro despite the Bilharzia, being free of it allowed him to sprout wings.
Xmas day 2009, Chris went out in 40c + heat and very high humidity on the notorious roads around Mombasa doing 135 miles in the process. He is so driven and is also very conditioned to heat - perfect for recovery and getting through GT's.
Watch his reaction to a cold day in the Alps should it happen. He doesn't go so quick - a bit like Big MIg.
Another factor is that Nairobi is at altitude, so living and training there is going to create the phsyiology akin to the Lucho Herrera's and Nairo Quintana's. Just look at the sheer numbers of long distance runners that come out of Kenya, it's no coincidence.
I think Chris is a tad naive (sorry mate) and has the ability to overcome the pain and suffering one has to do to become a top top cyclist with a sort of mechanistic mentality ("I am a machine, I am a machine"). His naivety was apparent when he attacked Wiggins, the year Wiggo won. A white guy training with locals in Nairobi was viewed as very odd. In amongst people who notoriously preyed on the 'rich' white man yet here was him training and living with them (gone native), no sense of danger, no sense of 'what the heck am I doing there?' - from a pure career perspective more than anything.
As long as there are managers who can handle him and give him clear instructions, Froome is going to set standards that will be seldom repeated.
I wish him luck trying to get over the cynical and obviously jealous French press, desperate for another Hinault, some 30 years down the road, flagging behind the UK, Spain and Italy.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
These are actually three distinct physiologies.Watch his reaction to a cold day in the Alps should it happen. He doesn't go so quick - a bit like Big MIg.
Another factor is that Nairobi is at altitude, so living and training there is going to create the phsyiology akin to the Lucho Herrera's and Nairo Quintana's. Just look at the sheer numbers of long distance runners that come out of Kenya, it's no coincidence.
The Kenyan runners - they come from tribes that have been at altitude for tens of millennia. They have evolved different blood cells which absorb more than usual amounts oxygen to deal with the thinner air.
The Colombians - they were chased up into the mountains in the early to mid twentieth century. Those that thrived were those whose red cell count raised the most in response to altitude change. (Hence Sky and their questions about Henao)
Froome on the other hand has European genetics, but was born at altitude and lived there (either in in Kenya or South Africa) until adulthood. As a result his individual body would have developed to compensate as he had no genetic coping mechanism.
This has all been written about by David Epstein (particularly in The Sports Gene)Twitter: @RichN950 -
I only got to page 5 in this 'great' debate. Did anyone mention the Bilharzia? Apols if it was mentioned. He finally got rid if the parasite around the time he started to get good. After years of struggling and still riding as a pro despite the Bilharzia, being free of it allowed him to sprout wings.
Froome claims that he was cleared of bilharzia in 2013, not 2011 (http://goo.gl/iyo0Lx).
His bilharzia treatments also began in 2010, not 2011 (http://goo.gl/sqyyHS).0 -
Yeah yeah, sure. Next you'll be telling us that the first mention of Froome's asthma was during last year's Tour of Romandie... :roll:I only got to page 5 in this 'great' debate. Did anyone mention the Bilharzia? Apols if it was mentioned. He finally got rid if the parasite around the time he started to get good. After years of struggling and still riding as a pro despite the Bilharzia, being free of it allowed him to sprout wings.
Froome claims that he was cleared of bilharzia in 2013, not 2011 (http://goo.gl/iyo0Lx).
His bilharzia treatments also began in 2010, not 2011 (http://goo.gl/sqyyHS).0 -
Huh?????
You're only interested in dope. Do one.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774227#p19774227]World of Wigans[/url] wrote:
Why not?Please don't.
Just getting some background on the forum.
Guess that's a no-no....But you know he's good for snorting down anything in powdered form
Not my fault if it's true. That's how he got his nickname - The Hog.Do one.
Do one what? Jigsaw puzzle? Bike Ride? Fishing Trip? Response to an acerbic post on a cycling forum?0 -
Stop trolling world or you'll be gone.
You can have opinions on Froome. Plenty do.
But lobbing opinions and chat in that you know will provoke and then crying innocence is infantile behaviour and it won't be tolerated.
And in case it isn't clear: this bit isn't up for discussion. So stop it.0 -
I only got to page 5 in this 'great' debate. Did anyone mention the Bilharzia? Apols if it was mentioned. He finally got rid if the parasite around the time he started to get good. After years of struggling and still riding as a pro despite the Bilharzia, being free of it allowed him to sprout wings.
Xmas day 2009, Chris went out in 40c + heat and very high humidity on the notorious roads around Mombasa doing 135 miles in the process. He is so driven and is also very conditioned to heat - perfect for recovery and getting through GT's.
Watch his reaction to a cold day in the Alps should it happen. He doesn't go so quick - a bit like Big MIg.
Another factor is that Nairobi is at altitude, so living and training there is going to create the phsyiology akin to the Lucho Herrera's and Nairo Quintana's. Just look at the sheer numbers of long distance runners that come out of Kenya, it's no coincidence.
I think Chris is a tad naive (sorry mate) and has the ability to overcome the pain and suffering one has to do to become a top top cyclist with a sort of mechanistic mentality ("I am a machine, I am a machine"). His naivety was apparent when he attacked Wiggins, the year Wiggo won. A white guy training with locals in Nairobi was viewed as very odd. In amongst people who notoriously preyed on the 'rich' white man yet here was him training and living with them (gone native), no sense of danger, no sense of 'what the heck am I doing there?' - from a pure career perspective more than anything.
As long as there are managers who can handle him and give him clear instructions, Froome is going to set standards that will be seldom repeated.
I wish him luck trying to get over the cynical and obviously jealous French press, desperate for another Hinault, some 30 years down the road, flagging behind the UK, Spain and Italy.
Bilharzia is a common disease in South Africa and the treatment lasts about a week or so.
Froome lived in Joburg and attended a nice expensive private school there. He wasn't chased by Hippos before class or have to chase lions away to go riding. He had a very privileged upbringing there.
Much like the 'most tested man on the planet' myth that Armstrong pushed. Froome and his pretend bush life upbringing and works record longest lasting case of Bilharzia are nice copy to sell books but pretty far from reality I am afraid.
Froomes downfall won't be as public or as severe as Armstrong's but it will happen. The truth always comes out, the cycling world is a small world after all.0 -
You'd think somebody in this vast conspiracy would have slipped up by now then, wouldn't you?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19774469#p19774469]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:You'd think somebody in this vast conspiracy would have slipped up by now then, wouldn't you?
Remind me again, who 'slipped up' in the Armstrong doping program?0 -
I only got to page 5 in this 'great' debate. Did anyone mention the Bilharzia? Apols if it was mentioned. He finally got rid if the parasite around the time he started to get good. After years of struggling and still riding as a pro despite the Bilharzia, being free of it allowed him to sprout wings.
Xmas day 2009, Chris went out in 40c + heat and very high humidity on the notorious roads around Mombasa doing 135 miles in the process. He is so driven and is also very conditioned to heat - perfect for recovery and getting through GT's.
Watch his reaction to a cold day in the Alps should it happen. He doesn't go so quick - a bit like Big MIg.
Another factor is that Nairobi is at altitude, so living and training there is going to create the phsyiology akin to the Lucho Herrera's and Nairo Quintana's. Just look at the sheer numbers of long distance runners that come out of Kenya, it's no coincidence.
I think Chris is a tad naive (sorry mate) and has the ability to overcome the pain and suffering one has to do to become a top top cyclist with a sort of mechanistic mentality ("I am a machine, I am a machine"). His naivety was apparent when he attacked Wiggins, the year Wiggo won. A white guy training with locals in Nairobi was viewed as very odd. In amongst people who notoriously preyed on the 'rich' white man yet here was him training and living with them (gone native), no sense of danger, no sense of 'what the heck am I doing there?' - from a pure career perspective more than anything.
As long as there are managers who can handle him and give him clear instructions, Froome is going to set standards that will be seldom repeated.
I wish him luck trying to get over the cynical and obviously jealous French press, desperate for another Hinault, some 30 years down the road, flagging behind the UK, Spain and Italy.
Umm, Froome had a very middle-class upbringing, and went to one of the most exclusive public schools going. Yeah, he went out on rides with David Kinjah, but he hardly went native. The biggest challenge he seems to gave faced was the incompetency of the Kenyan Cycling Fed - and by dint of his little tricks on their email account, and by grabbing the chance to take advantage of all that British Cycling had to offer via the switch of racing licences - he got himself away from their control and influence (and I dont blame him for that).
But he and his team - aided by David Walsh, it has to be said - have been quite successful in portraying this picture of the poor deprived kid who rose about all the 'disadvantages' of his upbringing.0
