Donald Trump
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That's so easy for Trump bat down.kingstongraham said:What's the format for the first debate?
Six questions in six segments, 15 minutes each. The segments are:
Trump and Biden's records
Supreme Court
Coronavirus pandemic
Race protests and violence in cities
Election integrity
Economy
Mr Trump and Mr Biden will get two minutes apiece to respond to the question initially before the back-and-forth begins.
Asking him a policy question on anything should do it. He just doesn't take any interest.
He'll just brag about nonsense he's made up.
US economic recovery is also, compared to rest of world, is pretty good too.0 -
I was going to make a list but it looks like the BBC have already done it:TheBigBean said:He needs to pick the thing that Trump voters don't like and repeat it over and over again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37982000
Sounds like he's done/started quite a few of the things he promised his followers.
I don't think ditching NATO and prosecuting Hillary are top of the wishlist for most of his voters.
I'm not sure about him making America great again, personally I think he's made it worse but it depends on your definition of great.
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Looking at that list again, I can't believe healthcare isn't on there.
It looks like a list of topics Trump would choose to rant about. Biden is going to have to basically ignore him and state his own policies.0 -
Would amuse me if Biden starting talking about MAGA.thistle_(mbnw) said:
I was going to make a list but it looks like the BBC have already done it:TheBigBean said:He needs to pick the thing that Trump voters don't like and repeat it over and over again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37982000
Sounds like he's done/started quite a few of the things he promised his followers.
I don't think ditching NATO and prosecuting Hillary are top of the wishlist for most of his voters.
I'm not sure about him making America great again, personally I think he's made it worse but it depends on your definition of great.0 -
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Haha - "A Border wall paid for by Mexico" - partially delivered.thistle_(mbnw) said:
I was going to make a list but it looks like the BBC have already done it:TheBigBean said:He needs to pick the thing that Trump voters don't like and repeat it over and over again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37982000
Sounds like he's done/started quite a few of the things he promised his followers.
I don't think ditching NATO and prosecuting Hillary are top of the wishlist for most of his voters.
I'm not sure about him making America great again, personally I think he's made it worse but it depends on your definition of great.
"Mexico poured scorn on the claim that it would pay for such a barrier, and even Mr Trump appears to have dropped that idea."
"just three miles construction was part of an entirely new system."0 -
Partially delivered the wall? That feels quite generous.kingstongraham said:Looking at that list again, I can't believe healthcare isn't on there.
It looks like a list of topics Trump would choose to rant about. Biden is going to have to basically ignore him and state his own policies.0 -
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
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A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...0 -
rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.0 -
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.0 -
$200,000 single bet placed on Biden today. Not by me I hasten to add.0
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Tenuous but interesting plot twist from Pelosi:
Trump is in debt to the tune to $400m, nobody knows who the lenders are so suggests Putin
It's probably not going to be anything as interesting as that if it ever comes out.0 -
Lincoln Project with the correct attack line.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Would repeatedly laughing at Trump help?
He's pretty thin skinned.0 -
First.Aspect said:
Would repeatedly laughing at Trump help?
He's pretty thin skinned.
Just the one episode by Obama was enough to trigger a deep-seated grudge. I think Trump is incapable of understanding humour, as it requires empathy.0 -
The long line of oligarchs and anonymised funds buying apartments in Trump properties at over-inflated prices.thistle_(mbnw) said:Tenuous but interesting plot twist from Pelosi:
Trump is in debt to the tune to $400m, nobody knows who the lenders are so suggests Putin
It's probably not going to be anything as interesting as that if it ever comes out.0 -
Is he though.surrey_commuter said:
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.
Is it not just Hilary was even worse?0 -
Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.0
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I quite like the Dems' "all he can talk about is urine" response.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
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If there is a drug that makes people talk in coherent sentences and be able to maintain a train of thought, maybe Trump should look into taking that instead of hydroxychloroquine.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
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This sounds so school playground.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
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I still don't see why she was so bad.rick_chasey said:
Is he though.surrey_commuter said:
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.
Is it not just Hilary was even worse?0 -
I actually think this would be a good idea. The difficulty would be is doing it in a presidential manner. Maybe in the style of a headmaster giving a little chuckle then followed by a simple put downFirst.Aspect said:Would repeatedly laughing at Trump help?
He's pretty thin skinned.0 -
I rate her but she seems to get a lot of people very riled up, including posters on here. If you compare her turnout versus Obama it's pretty stark. she did not get her vote out, *at all*surrey_commuter said:
I still don't see why she was so bad.rick_chasey said:
Is he though.surrey_commuter said:
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.
Is it not just Hilary was even worse?0 -
Yes it is. Were you expecting an intellectual debate involving Trump?rick_chasey said:
This sounds so school playground.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
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2016 was a diehards election.rick_chasey said:
I rate her but she seems to get a lot of people very riled up, including posters on here. If you compare her turnout versus Obama it's pretty stark. she did not get her vote out, *at all*surrey_commuter said:
I still don't see why she was so bad.rick_chasey said:
Is he though.surrey_commuter said:
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.
Is it not just Hilary was even worse?
Two candidates that did not have broad appeal left you with hardcore supporters and a lot of others holding their nose whilst voting.
I don’t know quite why Hillary was so unpopular, but she was.0 -
No. It is however, not just a slanging match to see who can land a better insult.TheBigBean said:
Yes it is. Were you expecting an intellectual debate involving Trump?rick_chasey said:
This sounds so school playground.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
It is about persuading the voters you are a better candidate and that it is worth spending time and effort to go out and vote (which is a genuine faff in the states - big queues, hassle, etc).
So, I think it's fair to say for Biden, the best tactic is doing whatever it takes to get your voters out - not least as he's currently leading the polls.
I think we all agree Trump is the best motivator to get people voting, but they need to trust you can do it, so it's about getting that message across.
"I can restore some normality here and you should be confident I can, but not so confident that you think I have it in the bag, and if you need reminded, genuinely, look how awful this guy is - do you really want this another 4 years?" is basically what he needs to get across.
I think insulting Trump doesn't really help much.0 -
Any quick witted comeback with an open goal like that would have been good, but he's either not got it or is playing the strategy of trying to avoid saying anything (like when Boris was elected leader of the Conservatives)kingstongraham said:
If there is a drug that makes people talk in coherent sentences and be able to maintain a train of thought, maybe Trump should look into taking that instead of hydroxychloroquine.TheBigBean said:Trump said that Biden is on performance enhancing drugs. The best Biden could do was laugh and say no comment. Seems like an open goal to me, he's just been accused of performing so well, the only explanation is drugs. Meanwhile, Trump has not done well.
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She had a quite incredible sense of entitlement and then ran a forgettable campaign?rick_chasey said:
I rate her but she seems to get a lot of people very riled up, including posters on here. If you compare her turnout versus Obama it's pretty stark. she did not get her vote out, *at all*surrey_commuter said:
I still don't see why she was so bad.rick_chasey said:
Is he though.surrey_commuter said:
You need to see it as getting the vote out, and Trump is good at firing up his supporters enough to get up and votebriantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
A reasonable amount - they seem to nudge the polls in one way or other.Jezyboy said:
How much importance do you place on these debates?rick_chasey said:Ugh, glad it's not me prepping Biden.
I can't think of anything that I can picture working.
The bits I watched of the debates with Hillary were god awful on all sides. She still won the popular vote...
The whole point of the Lincoln Project stuff is not to change entrenched minds, but to nudge the few percent of the people in crucial states who voted for Trump last time who did so because they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton (for whatever reason). Given that 70k votes swung it from Trump, because of the peculiarity of the Electoral College, that seems a sensible strategy.
This time I can't see any waverers opting for Trump as an 'unknown quantity': he's had four years to deliver his unicorns, and all he's got is a few mangy gerbils, a couple of which sit on top of his head.
Is it not just Hilary was even worse?0
