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  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    If you had one crazy to deal with trump I reckon Pence should be the Crazy's target like someone said earlier. You basically want Trump out but not with Pence next in line. More important to keep him out even if that means Trump stays in post.

    Speaker was in place before Trump was candidate so he was fairly normal republican not crazy republican. I don't think he's too right wing at all.

    P.S. I don't advocate assassination under any circumstances. This is just speculation only.
  • mamba80
    mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    If Alex Jones gets anywhere near any influence, that's a sure sign it's going to be as bad as it can be.

    How true and v worrying times, shocking taste in outfits, dont know how Matt baker puts up with it.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    Ballysmate wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Speaker of the House is 3rd as I recall.

    Happy to be corrected!

    Correct.

    So how far do you have to go before you end up with a President who isn't a deranged crony of Trump?

    Currently only Speaker, Paul Ryan is ok. But it depends who they elect in January. I do think that they will elect someone who is not aligned with Trump, it's easy to demonise the republican party but they do have some sense.

    You'd have to get the timing just right given how long people last under Trump - presumably though Trump can't decide the Speaker?......
    Faster than a tent.......
  • wallace_and_gromit
    wallace_and_gromit Posts: 3,618
    mamba80 wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    If Alex Jones gets anywhere near any influence, that's a sure sign it's going to be as bad as it can be.

    How true and v worrying times, shocking taste in outfits, dont know how Matt baker puts up with it.

    Nice one!
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Rolf F wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    Ballysmate wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Speaker of the House is 3rd as I recall.

    Happy to be corrected!

    Correct.

    So how far do you have to go before you end up with a President who isn't a deranged crony of Trump?

    Currently only Speaker, Paul Ryan is ok. But it depends who they elect in January. I do think that they will elect someone who is not aligned with Trump, it's easy to demonise the republican party but they do have some sense.

    You'd have to get the timing just right given how long people last under Trump - presumably though Trump can't decide the Speaker?......

    No, the House does. Ryan has been nominated and, it appears, will easily win re-election. That'll rankle Trump.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    TheDonald wrote:
    Very orgranized process taking place as I decide on Cabinet and many other positions. I am the only one who knows who the finalists are!

    I'm expecting them to have to organise a children's party, and the members of the winning team get to be the cabinet.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    https://twitter.com/bbcnickrobinson/sta ... 6844834816

    BBC's political editor just tweeted this:

    Morning. "Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL" tweeted Trump's new National Security Adviser. We speak to poss next Defence Sec at 7 @BBCr4today
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    So, Jeff Sessions as AG. Wow.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    bendertherobot wrote:
    So, Jeff Sessions as AG. Wow.

    Not a great sign. He's really going to try and do what he campaigned on.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    It's what the people voted for though. While I don't agree with his views, at all, it's better than him duping the people into office.

    Or is it?!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Dinyull wrote:
    It's what the people voted for though. While I don't agree with his views, at all, it's better than him duping the people into office.

    Or is it?!

    He did that as well.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    He's worse than the remain lot. He's abandoned jailing Hillary now. That wall will be gone by the end of the week.......... ;)
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    bendertherobot wrote:
    He's worse than the remain lot. He's abandoned jailing Hillary now. That wall will be gone by the end of the week.......... ;)

    A senior advisor to the transition said he wanted to "move beyond the issues of the campaign".

    !!!
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Coming up to almost 1.8m more people voted for Hilary than Trump and it's still rising.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,322
    Dinyull wrote:
    Coming up to almost 1.8m more people voted for Hilary than Trump and it's still rising.

    Can you just elaborate on that Dinyull? Finchy said that there was 220,000 in an earlier post (I think).
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,361
    Pinno wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    Coming up to almost 1.8m more people voted for Hilary than Trump and it's still rising.

    Can you just elaborate on that Dinyull? Finchy said that there was 220,000 in an earlier post (I think).
    It's how the electoral college works in the US - like with constituencies here, a party/person can win the election, because not all states/consituencies have equal numbers of voters/delegates. Looks like Clinton will have over 2m more votes than Trump. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/17/ ... total.html
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,322
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,361
    Pinno wrote:
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
    If you like numbers, this has lots of them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... rue#gid=19
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,322
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
    If you like numbers, this has lots of them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... rue#gid=19

    Aaaaargh...
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    What I do find odd is how the more literate Trump supports can be so OK with his unwillingness to leave his businesses alone.

    Ultimately it means that doing business with his businesses is a good way to buy influence, which is exactly what his supports (and Bally) accused the Clintons of with their Clinton foundation.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    What I do find odd is how the more literate Trump supports can be so OK with his unwillingness to leave his businesses alone.

    Ultimately it means that doing business with his businesses is a good way to buy influence, which is exactly what his supports (and Bally) accused the Clintons of with their Clinton foundation.

    It's because the more literate Tump supporters are either in his team or family
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    What I do find odd is how the more literate Trump supports can be so OK with his unwillingness to leave his businesses alone.

    Ultimately it means that doing business with his businesses is a good way to buy influence, which is exactly what his supports (and Bally) accused the Clintons of with their Clinton foundation.


    For the record, I am not a Trump supporter, he is probably as bad as everyone says he is. My point was, so is Hillary.
    There is no law requiring the POTUS to relinquish their business interests.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pre ... d5c078b44c


    There are laws pertaining to money laundering though.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-wag ... 62558.html

    http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundati ... nt-1934187

    BTW Rick, Glad to see you are agreeing that Hillary's dealings were shady to say the least.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,361
    Pinno wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
    If you like numbers, this has lots of them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... rue#gid=19

    Aaaaargh...
    Over 2m now. Not that it'll make any difference...
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
    If you like numbers, this has lots of them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... rue#gid=19

    Aaaaargh...
    Over 2m now. Not that it'll make any difference...

    What's that got to do with the price of fish? Electoral college votes are the ones that count.

    Just like UKIP, they managed to get more votes than SNP and Libdems combined but only one seat. Doesn't matter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,361
    Ballysmate wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    With 4m votes still to be counted including California which if I recall correctly, was Clinton through and through.
    If you like numbers, this has lots of them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... rue#gid=19

    Aaaaargh...
    Over 2m now. Not that it'll make any difference...

    What's that got to do with the price of fish? Electoral college votes are the ones that count.

    Just like UKIP, they managed to get more votes than SNP and Libdems combined but only one seat. Doesn't matter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
    Just of academic interest, s'all.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Ballysmate wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    What I do find odd is how the more literate Trump supports can be so OK with his unwillingness to leave his businesses alone.

    Ultimately it means that doing business with his businesses is a good way to buy influence, which is exactly what his supports (and Bally) accused the Clintons of with their Clinton foundation.


    For the record, I am not a Trump supporter,.

    Sure. That's why I said Trump supporters and Bally :P. As opposed to such as Bally.
    _
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    Pinno wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    Coming up to almost 1.8m more people voted for Hilary than Trump and it's still rising.

    Can you just elaborate on that Dinyull? Finchy said that there was 220,000 in an earlier post (I think).

    Yeah, to be honest I never knew just how long it took one of the world's most advanced countries to count their votes.

    Speaking of advanced, Trump now wants NASA to abandon monitoring the Earth's climate, and has put a climate change denier in charge of the Environment Protection Agency. I hope there's a big reaction from America's scientific community, there really does need to be a showdown on this issue.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,322
    finchy wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    Dinyull wrote:
    Coming up to almost 1.8m more people voted for Hilary than Trump and it's still rising.

    Can you just elaborate on that Dinyull? Finchy said that there was 220,000 in an earlier post (I think).

    Yeah, to be honest I never knew just how long it took one of the world's most advanced countries to count their votes.

    Speaking of advanced, Trump now wants NASA to abandon monitoring the Earth's climate, and has put a climate change denier in charge of the Environment Protection Agency. I hope there's a big reaction from America's scientific community, there really does need to be a showdown on this issue.

    Don't worry, he'll be backing down in a week.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/polit ... ork-times/
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  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    I hope you're right.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,322
    finchy wrote:
    I hope you're right.

    Maybe we should be more optimistic. The pendulum has definitely swung away from the liberal elite in the US. When they get sick fed up, disillusioned and most probably 'betrayed' by the 'other side,' in 5 years time we may see the pendulum swing violently back. It is then that change will be effected.
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