[POLL] Chain Lube! What's Your Go-To?
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Snide remarks?
Pot meet kettle.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
Fear and adrenaline make up part of my experience as well, You and others seem to have reached a conclusion that a) Im not doing any thing adventurous and b) you cant scare yourself on a cheap bike. when both are fundamentally untrue. For instance I decided not to put liquid brakes on it, because there was far more Adrenalin and achievement to be had from crap cable brakes. If that fails to thrill in the future, Il take the front brake off to get the adrenaline back
I regularly undertake maneuvers that have people on expensive full sussers getting off and pushing. That's not because Im particularly talented. just that they bought bikes they cant ride properly. I road through a stream to day, last time I did it, it was 1ft deep, today it was 3ft deep with a significant current, that got the adrenaline flowing, No one else wanted to try that out on there expensive bikes
As it is your continual updating of your bike means that non of them have brought anything but temporary happiness, before you got discontented and had to try something new. Are you the same with relationships
This is a wind-up, yes? Are you that weird bloke from a while back who got a bit rapey after a few gin and tonics?All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Can you actually ride a normal mtb across a fast flowing river which is 3ft deep? But you're my hero for being the only one who tried.0
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I think by no one else he means his imaginary friends.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
What was the road doing through the stream, how did they lay the tarmac?Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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Can you actually ride a normal mtb across a fast flowing river which is 3ft deep? But you're my hero for being the only one who tried.
it was stream not a river, but yes it would seems so, Not that that was my intention when I commence the action. "2 ft is quite easy and that's the depth I envisaged gong through. when it was splashing around my bars it got a little disconcerting, but I was committed at that point so carried on, through and out0 -
I road through a stream to day, last time I did it, it was 1ft deep, today it was 3ft deep with a significant current, that got the adrenaline flowing, No one else wanted to try that out on there expensive bikes
How did the WD40 lube on your chain hold up to this tsunami?0 -
He uses 3 in 1 and it was a stream0
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Muc-off wet lube right now.
As for the off topic discussion going on.. I've rode £20 junker bikes and £700 hard tails.. The only difference in fun levels is the more expensive bikes handle my mistakes a little better. Shouldn't look down on anyone for their taste in bikes or how they choose to enjoy the sport. My favourite part of this sport is that there's so little judgement when you're out riding.. Sure I look at other peoples bikes as I pass, but I'm far more likely to respect the guy on a 'shitty' carrera who's owning the trail I'm undoubtedly struggling on than the guy on a £1000 beast doing the same. Not that I'd disrespect the guy on the 'better' bike either.
I don't know I'm talking nonsense at this stage. There's a point in there somewhere though.0 -
Muc-off wet lube right now.
As for the off topic discussion going on.. I've rode £20 junker bikes and £700 hard tails.. The only difference in fun levels is the more expensive bikes handle my mistakes a little better. Shouldn't look down on anyone for their taste in bikes or how they choose to enjoy the sport. My favourite part of this sport is that there's so little judgement when you're out riding.. Sure I look at other peoples bikes as I pass, but I'm far more likely to respect the guy on a 'sh!tty' carrera who's owning the trail I'm undoubtedly struggling on than the guy on a £1000 beast doing the same. Not that I'd disrespect the guy on the 'better' bike either.
I don't know I'm talking nonsense at this stage. There's a point in there somewhere though.
That's reassuring, I was beginning to think that everyone on here considered those on a low budget to not be ''proper MTBers''0 -
Muc-off wet lube right now.
As for the off topic discussion going on.. I've rode £20 junker bikes and £700 hard tails.. The only difference in fun levels is the more expensive bikes handle my mistakes a little better. Shouldn't look down on anyone for their taste in bikes or how they choose to enjoy the sport. My favourite part of this sport is that there's so little judgement when you're out riding.. Sure I look at other peoples bikes as I pass, but I'm far more likely to respect the guy on a 'sh!tty' carrera who's owning the trail I'm undoubtedly struggling on than the guy on a £1000 beast doing the same. Not that I'd disrespect the guy on the 'better' bike either.
I don't know I'm talking nonsense at this stage. There's a point in there somewhere though.
It's not about the bike.
Apparently.
That's reassuring, I was beginning to think that everyone on here considered those on a low budget to not be ''proper MTBers''0 -
No one is looking down on anyone for their choice of bike, except that friend Brian seems to think anyone spending more than a few £s or using decent bits is just wasting money, because they can't be having as much fun as he is.
That's just silly.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
No one is looking down on anyone for their choice of bike, except that friend Brian seems to think anyone spending more than a few £s or using decent bits is just wasting money, because they can't be having as much fun as he is.
That's just silly.
^ This.
No-one is looking down on anyone because their bike is not top spec. Been there, nothing wrong with that. But Brian seems to be one of those deadly bores who thinks anyone that spends more than he does is a fool easily parted from his money. And when I say that I'm having way (and I mean WAY) more fun on my excessive Kona than I ever did on the clunker I was riding before, I'm just easily duped and drinking the cool-aid.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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No one is looking down on anyone for their choice of bike, except that friend Brian seems to think anyone spending more than a few £s or using decent bits is just wasting money, because they can't be having as much fun as he is.
That's just silly.
^ This.
No-one is looking down on anyone because their bike is not top spec.
Well there were a number of snide remarks about me not being A real mountain biker because of my thrift in both lubrication and choice of bike. So clear SOMEONE is ''looking down on others less financially able than themselves ?0 -
It was your general stance that elicited comment, not the status of your bike.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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It was your general stance that elicited comment, not the status of your bike.
Il think you will find there were derogatory comment about my poor quality bike as well, If you would care to glance back through the thread ?
Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage0 -
Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage
There you go again. Just because you can tell the difference (or refuse to acknowledge the difference) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage
There you go again. Just because you can tell the difference (or refuse to acknowledge the difference) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You and other have been invited to quantify the difference and have so far failed to do so. Choosing instead to give subjective qualitative advantages. like'' I think it feels better''. That's OK its your money, but if you cant quantify the advantages you claim,then to all intents and purposes they don't exist in engineering terms0 -
My first bike was a Jamis hardtail with a 2inch fork and V-brakes. My current bike is a 29er dually with air suspension both ends and hydraulic disc brakes. If I was still riding my original bike I wouldn't be able to ride the terrain I now ride. The reason I got rid of the Jamis was because as my riding ability progressed I started breaking thinks. Once you reach the point where the bike is limiting how fast and where you ride it's time to move on IMHO. So yes my more expensive newer bike does give me a quantifiable advantage.It was your general stance that elicited comment, not the status of your bike.
Il think you will find there were derogatory comment about my poor quality bike as well, If you would care to glance back through the thread ?
Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage
I can see that as a reasoned argument for replacing the janis with something that didnt break. That would spoil your enjoyment of the day. The problem would come when your trying to quantify the advantage you achieved with your bike over say one that cost say half as much and didnt break if you rode it off a high curb0 -
Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage
There you go again. Just because you can tell the difference (or refuse to acknowledge the difference) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You and other have been invited to quantify the difference and have so far failed to do so. Choosing instead to give subjective qualitative advantages. like'' I think it feels better''. That's OK its your money, but if you cant quantify the advantages you claim,then to all intents and purposes they don't exist in engineering terms
What absolute and utter boIIocks. I've used a number of different lubes and then cooldad recommended Squirt so I gave that a try. I can say, for a fact, that it leaves my chain feeling smoother than any of the others I used after lubing and it's a simple fact that it's a lot less hassle as you don't have to clean the chain between applications which you have to do with other lubes. I can also say for a fact that I can ride stuff on my Kona that would put me in hospital if I tried it on my old Trek.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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When I use a dry lube I experience less chain suck and less rough gear changes. .Im not sure what is outrageous in the stance of pointing out that more expensive products give no quantifiable advantage
There you go again. Just because you can tell the difference (or refuse to acknowledge the difference) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You and other have been invited to quantify the difference and have so far failed to do so. Choosing instead to give subjective qualitative advantages. like'' I think it feels better''. That's OK its your money, but if you cant quantify the advantages you claim,then to all intents and purposes they don't exist in engineering terms
Your not getting the hang of this are you, LESS is not a quantity.0 -
. makes riding more fun as it feels nicer .
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OK Brian, since I started using RocknRoll gold I have not experienced any chainsuck when dropping to the granny ring. Previously when using other lubricants I did experience chainsuck. So as using my current lube has reduced chainsuck to zero I don't think any other lube will be better. Even though I don't have definitive numbers, I regard a reduction from any positive integer down to zero a worthwhile outcome..
Even without that it worth the money to avoid having to clean my chain and cassette once a month.[/quote]
Zero is indeed a quantity. Though you did use ''less'' before suggesting there is some ? but OK. I also experience zero chain suck with my 3 in1 oil. In fact I didn't even know such a phenomenon existed till it was mentioned in this thread.
So on our very small sample size it would seem the two lubricants are equal in that respect ?0 -
Have you ever tried Rock n Roll gold Brian?
Of course not. That would involve putting his hand in his pocket and we all know that is an activity for the easily led.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Yes. That's what this whole discussion started about isn't it? Having fun. How about it is easier to manoeuvre when in the air compared to any of my other bikes. I have several bikes so can make direct back to back comparisons regarding the overall weight of the bike and the presence or absence of rear suspension. Regarding chainsuck I have the advantage over you Brian as I used to use 3in1 oil and it was chainsuck amongst other things that encouraged me to try other lubricants. Have you ever tried Rock n Roll gold Brian?. makes riding more fun as it feels nicer .
Qualitative assessment ?
It was about fun, then people started telling me it was subjective and if I was having as much fun on my old nail as they were on their fancy bike there must be something wrong with me, So i changed tack to objective tests and suggested they quantify the advantages. If you want to go back to FUN, then I repeat I cant have more fun on a bike than I do currently. It must therefore be at least equal to your fun
Honestly the 3.1 works fine for me, perhaps its the intermittent blasts of WD 40 that make the difference ?0 -
Have you ever tried Rock n Roll gold Brian?
Of course not. That would involve putting his hand in his pocket .
Im poor mate, I would tell you my sob story but you seem like the sort of chap who would mock my misfortune so I wont bother0 -
then I repeat I cant have more fun on a bike than I do currently.
What a silly statement.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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then I repeat I cant have more fun on a bike than I do currently.
What a silly statement.
My internal fun meter is on max, its bordering on elation, so much fun am I experiencing, It seems clear you dont get as much out of MTBing as I do or you wouldnt query my statement0 -
It seems clear you dont get as much out of MTBing as I do or you wouldnt query my statement
I broke a finger when I crashed on my second run at BPW last week. I still rode another 5 runs after that. I'd say I'm enjoying myself just fine.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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It seems clear you dont get as much out of MTBing as I do or you wouldnt query my statement
I broke a finger when I crashed on my second run at BPW last week. I still rode another 5 runs after that. I'd say I'm enjoying myself just fine.
Im off to bed talk tomorrow0
