Ride London 2016
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Thigh_burn wrote:Has anyone else who has a charity place had an update from their charity on fundraising? I'm blown away how underfunded mine is. I won't name the charity to save their blushes, but they're one of the main charities for the event and haven't raised even one third of their target. I appreciate there's still over a week to go, but that seems like a mighty big hurdle to achieve in that timeframe. I'd have thought most riders would have been fundraising for sometime.
I'm doing it for the Alzheimers Society this year, having got in on the public ballot, then turned my place over. Despite all sorts of efforts, from both myself, and folk I know, and emailing colleagues at work, and talking about it, and putting posters up wherever practicable, and using 'soshal meeja', and I'm getting the same old story back."Oh not another 'just giving' campaign". Basically, everyone's mothers uncles brothers half cousin, is collecting for 'one armed pigmy Amazin Dwarves annual social trip to the beach' or whatever, and people are sick and tired of it. I guess I'm not alone.0 -
This is why I don't do any charity sponsored stuff. So many people asking the same old people for not insignificant sums of money. I did it once, asked immediate family members and raised a few hundred pounds. Not asking them again.WyndyMilla Massive Attack | Rourke 953 | Condor Italia 531 Pro | Boardman CX Pro | DT Swiss RR440 Tubeless Wheels
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drlodge wrote:This is why I don't do any charity sponsored stuff. So many people asking the same old people for not insignificant sums of money. I did it once, asked immediate family members and raised a few hundred pounds. Not asking them again.
Similar here - we've done a charity ride - it was the only way we could get a place - but the "problem" is, there's no mechanism to make the contribution conditional on achieving the challenge. There's no way I'd ask people to donate just because I'm going to ride 100 miles - however, 100 miles within a set time might be more sellable.0 -
Yup that all resonates. For the same reasons you've flagged, I've only asked a few people to sponsor me.
I find it surprising though how the charities so badly misjudge things.
Wonder if it poses a threat to the ride if they pull out because it starts being a cost to the charities, rather than fundraising. I imagine corporate sponsors would be a bit less interested.0 -
I imagine that most charity entrants have signed up to an agreed minimum in which case they'll need to cough up. For charities without a minimum, I wouldn't expect a great deal of support because then they wouldn't make any profit to put back into their mission.0
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Unless you do it the way that I did it. There is no minimum pledge, for 'ballot' riders, but we still get the support / jersey / after ride hospitality 8) .iPete wrote:I imagine that most charity entrants have signed up to an agreed minimum in which case they'll need to cough up. For charities without a minimum, I wouldn't expect a great deal of support because then they wouldn't make any profit to put back into their mission.0 -
Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.0
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johngti wrote:Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.
I think the answer would depend upon your charity and how they handle the event. call them and find out what they expect and in what time frame.
I got a place with the Samaritans, and they asked for a minimum of £200 to be raised. This was a lot more reasonable than some of the others I saw, who wanted £400 - £750 ! They also seem quite laid back and the only messages I've had from them are supportive
At present, I'm at £165, which includes the initial £25 pounds registration that I put in, and £40 added by Mrs Slog. Although I'd rather not, I would have paid all the money myself to get the place if I'd had to. This is a one-off for me, I want to ride it with my son.
With things like this, people think they are paying your entry fee (yes, true to a degree), but anyone who thinks that, only knows half the story. The logistics of it is awkward, hotels, parking etc. and add up to more than I'm raising. If your feeling awkward asking for sponsorship, it's worth putting something about that in your 'blurb'.
BTW, one of the ways I thought of raising some of the money was to sell some stuff on ebay. You can specify on there that you are selling for a charity.
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johngti wrote:Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.
There is only a minimum if you take a charity place. I can't see them going past moral blackmail.
Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.0 -
How much does a charity place cost the charity?0
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Depends on your circle of friends ... the longer you've cycled the more chance that your friends ride or know about riding (because you can't shut up about it!Surrey Commuter wrote:Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.
) and with this now in it's 4th? year they "know" that it's an "easy" 100 ...
Far easier if you don't have friends into cycling and you've not ridden 100 before - or if you have they don't know about it!
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Surrey Commuter wrote:
There is only a minimum if you take a charity place. I can't see them going past moral blackmail.
Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.
The charities who do this, have several different event income streams coming in. If the Ride doesn't do it, they'll bolster, using excesses from the other streams.
I can see why sponsors wouldn't be impressed by a piffling little 100 mile bike ride, on some pancake flat, not even slightly challenging terrain, pfffffft meh, piece of cake, right? :roll: .0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:How much does a charity place cost the charity?
Hmm. Good question. I wondered if it was £25, as this is what I had to pay to register with them, but I suppose they would want to make something on that bit too, so it might be less.
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Surrey Commuter wrote:johngti wrote:Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.
There is only a minimum if you take a charity place. I can't see them going past moral blackmail.
Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.
It's a bit more difficult than growing a 'tache!
I got sponsored for RideLondon as it was my first 100 mile ride, and as such was a challenge for me. I wouldn't take part for a charity I didn't particularly support "just for the experience" as their are plenty of experiences out there I can pay for without putting my friends and family (and myself) through some sort of guilt trip.
I think it's around £100 a place, but there is a sliding scale depending on the number of places you take. I looked at it for the charity I supported (which is a very small charity) but it was too expensive for them. It was easier for me to just take on board all the expenses myself and let them have all the sponsorship money I raised.Capt Slog wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:How much does a charity place cost the charity?
Hmm. Good question. I wondered if it was £25, as this is what I had to pay to register with them, but I suppose they would want to make something on that bit too, so it might be less.0 -
mrfpb wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:johngti wrote:Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.
There is only a minimum if you take a charity place. I can't see them going past moral blackmail.
Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.
It's a bit more difficult than growing a 'tache!
I got sponsored for RideLondon as it was my first 100 mile ride, and as such was a challenge for me. I wouldn't take part for a charity I didn't particularly support "just for the experience" as their are plenty of experiences out there I can pay for without putting my friends and family (and myself) through some sort of guilt trip.
I think it's around £100 a place, but there is a sliding scale depending on the number of places you take. I looked at it for the charity I supported (which is a very small charity) but it was too expensive for them. It was easier for me to just take on board all the expenses myself and let them have all the sponsorship money I raised.Capt Slog wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:How much does a charity place cost the charity?
Hmm. Good question. I wondered if it was £25, as this is what I had to pay to register with them, but I suppose they would want to make something on that bit too, so it might be less.
I did not say I was not impressed
People seem to have an idea that they spent their youth cycling so think going on a bike ride is easy. My 13 year old nephew did a 46 mile ride which my family met with total indifference. I checked back and the longest ride I would have done as a kid was 8 miles.
Work colleagues were infinitely more impressed that I commuted and rode home the 15 miles after the event.
I was riding for a cause that was obviously close to my heart so obviously not funding my hobby and found it a lot easier than colleagues.0 -
Could someone tell me the best/ easiest way to get back to the start (Mall to Stratford) straight after the event pls?0
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On your bike? Ride past the nearest official car park and follow the signs to the start.
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Wasn't sure how hard it would be with road closures etc. If signed and roads open then great.0
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Milemuncher1 wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:
There is only a minimum if you take a charity place. I can't see them going past moral blackmail.
Most potential sponsors aren't impressed by cycling 100 miles.
The charities who do this, have several different event income streams coming in. If the Ride doesn't do it, they'll bolster, using excesses from the other streams.
I can see why sponsors wouldn't be impressed by a piffling little 100 mile bike ride, on some pancake flat, not even slightly challenging terrain, pfffffft meh, piece of cake, right? :roll: .
Did you forget your earlier post when you said you were riding for the Alzheimer's Society but were struggling for donations?
To me riding 100 miles is the equivalent of running a marathon but I am sure it would be a lot easier to raise money for running.0 -
As I said, it appears this is not the case.Milemuncher1 wrote:There is something in it. If you have a previous time, they will use that to judge your start time.
I rode 4h33 last year, I thought it would be neat to try and go below 4h30 before I get too old to get faster. So I made the effort to put a team together and organise the entry. Start time 7.38. I suppose it's an extra hour and a half in bed.
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Solstice21 wrote:Wasn't sure how hard it would be with road closures etc. If signed and roads open then great.
Follow the course back up the Embankment to Tower Hill, then head north to pick up the A11. Worse case scenario bike will go in a black cab with the wheel popped off.0 -
paul2718 wrote:
As I said, it appears this is not the case.Milemuncher1 wrote:There is something in it. If you have a previous time, they will use that to judge your start time.
I rode 4h33 last year, I thought it would be neat to try and go below 4h30 before I get too old to get faster. So I made the effort to put a team together and organise the entry. Start time 7.38. I suppose it's an extra hour and a half in bed.
Paul
Well I hate to disappoint you poppet, but I tried to blag a late start, by giving a slower time, and it didn't work, they checked, my rider number is in the thousand range this year, not over 10000 ( which it has been previously, every time I go quicker, I start earlier.0 -
Actually I'm fairly sure they mix it up, there will be people in the 6:00 Wave who put 6-7 hours.0
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Surrey Commuter wrote:
To me riding 100 miles is the equivalent of running a marathon but I am sure it would be a lot easier to raise money for running.
Have you run a marathon?0 -
iPete wrote:Actually I'm fairly sure they mix it up, there will be people in the 6:00 Wave who put 6-7 hours.
Well as long as you are fairly sure, I'm fairly sure that's what happens.0 -
Slowbike wrote:iPete wrote:Actually I'm fairly sure they mix it up, there will be people in the 6:00 Wave who put 6-7 hours.
Good!
I put down estimated time of 5h 30m & got start time of 06:11.
I was expecting some time after 7 & was hoping to rely on the train from Richmond to get there ,
so instead will be riding in part of the way.
I do have experience of riding in a group from club rides - just might be at the back of the group :-)0 -
Carbonator wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:
To me riding 100 miles is the equivalent of running a marathon but I am sure it would be a lot easier to raise money for running.
Have you run a marathon?
I have. I ran one when I was around 22 years old.
I found riding 100 miles at 56 a lot easier.
But it depends on the person of course. If SC sees them as the same in terms of effort, I can relate to that.
When it came to the aspect of the effort involved, a lot of people I in my circle of acquaintance are astounded at that sort of distance on a bike. I tell them that I've been to such-and-such place, then they nod sort of blankly, and then the penny drops when they work out the distance involved, and then..."AND back again?"
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johngti wrote:Just out of interest, what happens to a rider with a charity place who doesn't manage to fundraise the minimum amount and who can't pay it themselves? I'm another who won a place through the ballot and signed up to a charity anyway and I've just had an email from them saying they've only got a third of what they planned on pledged.
I had this with Action last year. Minimum was £500 but was stuck on £300 as id continually asked people for sponship for a number of events. In the end i called them and they revised the minimum to £350.0 -
Capt Slog wrote:Carbonator wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:
To me riding 100 miles is the equivalent of running a marathon but I am sure it would be a lot easier to raise money for running.
Have you run a marathon?
I have. I ran one when I was around 22 years old.
I found riding 100 miles at 56 a lot easier.
But it depends on the person of course. If SC sees them as the same in terms of effort, I can relate to that.
When it came to the aspect of the effort involved, a lot of people I in my circle of acquaintance are astounded at that sort of distance on a bike. I tell them that I've been to such-and-such place, then they nod sort of blankly, and then the penny drops when they work out the distance involved, and then..."AND back again?"
I was thinking in terms of sponsorship perception. A bloke at work who runs 10kms to work is staggered tht I ride 20 miles. Horses for courses.
I got back one day and my bro in law asked me where I'd been, box hill I said - he was asked me how I got there :shock:0
