La Vuelta '15 #18 Roa / Riaza **SPOILERS**
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These soft climbs on the last days of the Vuelta suits Dumoulin perfectly. I bet he's loving it.0
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Dumoulin! Pure racer!Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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wonder if TD will have a crack at gapping Aru in these last few ks?aztecboy0
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What a joke this Tom D is. Literally not left Aru's wheel the entire climb. Not budged an inch. Simply unbelievable.
Aru so entertaining.
Why * would he leave his wheel though?
Because typically when a pure climber launches attack after attack after attack the huge bulk of the Dutch man theoretically should not be able to hold that wheel. Maybe if he grinds back up after a little while but matching a pure climber stroke for stroke...give me a break.
If TD is stuck to Aru's wheel then it implies that Aru's "pure climber attacks" aren't including much by way of acceleration. Even if Pantani was following Aru he'd still need to react to an Aru attack and before his reaction had any impact on the pedals, a gap would form albeit one closed down quickly.
A non-appearance of even small gaps suggests Aru isn't varying the pace much.0 -
Well maybe true except for the fact he repeatedly dropped everyone bar the heaviest guy there :roll:
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Congratulations Roche and Zubeldia.
Nice work Aru, thanks for the performance. Better luck next time.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Nice work from Roche, must have been hard spotting Zubeldia behind him....Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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What a joke this Tom D is. Literally not left Aru's wheel the entire climb. Not budged an inch. Simply unbelievable.
Aru so entertaining.
Why * would he leave his wheel though?
Because typically when a pure climber launches attack after attack after attack the huge bulk of the Dutch man theoretically should not be able to hold that wheel. Maybe if he grinds back up after a little while but matching a pure climber stroke for stroke...give me a break.
The huge bulk of a man who is 6'1" and weighs a hulk-like 11 stone
He's a twig.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
treks new cloaking device working well..Nice work from Roche, must have been hard spotting Zubeldia behind him....0 -
such great racing - the next few days are going to be gripping.aztecboy0
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Loved that stage. One attack after another. Great stuff.0
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What a joke this Tom D is. Literally not left Aru's wheel the entire climb. Not budged an inch. Simply unbelievable.
Aru so entertaining.
Four of my men lighting up that climb.
Loving it, do you get to stir the Christmas cake mix at home as well
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Well maybe true except for the fact he repeatedly dropped everyone bar the heaviest guy there :roll:
Well if a pure climber can't drop TD then we must conclude TD can climb like a pure climber even if he isn't just a pure climber ('cos he can TT as well.)
Maybe he's just a good cyclist. There are a few of them and being tall and good at TTing doesn't mean TD can't be one, including a two-paced climber.0 -
Nice work from Roche, must have been hard spotting Zubeldia behind him....
Hehe
Cracking win, well done Nico0 -
This thread is full of people who aren't real cycling fans.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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Dumoulin! Pure racer!
True Champion!0 -
This thread is full of people who aren't real cycling fans.
Fell asleep
It has been a long week though......“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700212#p19700212]Wallace and Gromit[/url] wrote:Well maybe true except for the fact he repeatedly dropped everyone bar the heaviest guy there :roll:
Well if a pure climber can't drop TD then we must conclude TD can climb like a pure climber even if he isn't just a pure climber ('cos he can TT as well.)
Maybe he's just a good cyclist. There are a few of them and being tall and good at TTing doesn't mean TD can't be one, including a two-paced climber.
the best climber in the world isn't a pure climber though so pure climber is obviously a derogatory term, used to describe a one trick dwarf pony."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700215#p19700215]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Dumoulin! Pure racer!
True Champion!
Heavyweight!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700215#p19700215]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Dumoulin! Pure racer!
True Champion!
Heavyweight!
Hulk Champion True ClimberNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700215#p19700215]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Dumoulin! Pure racer!
True Champion!
Heavyweight!
350kg of it.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
A bread-and-butter win for a solid professional rider like Roche. Fair play to him.
Tom D did a storming ride today. Perhaps there is a tiny bit of suspicion about his performance on this Vuelta but hopefully the testing currently in place will catch him out if he is on the stuff. Personally, I think he is putting in a believable performance and is clean. It is difficult to see how anyone can sling mud at TD while praising Aru.
DD.0 -
Funny how no one seems to be producing any power output evidence to 'support' doping accusations and are judging it 'by eye'
May be the numbers didn't work out the way they wanted.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700212#p19700212]Wallace and Gromit[/url] wrote:Well maybe true except for the fact he repeatedly dropped everyone bar the heaviest guy there :roll:
Well if a pure climber can't drop TD then we must conclude TD can climb like a pure climber even if he isn't just a pure climber ('cos he can TT as well.)
Maybe he's just a good cyclist. There are a few of them and being tall and good at TTing doesn't mean TD can't be one, including a two-paced climber.
the best climber in the world isn't a pure climber though so pure climber is obviously a derogatory term, used to describe a one trick dwarf pony.
Also, that same rider was ahead of Tony Martin at all the time checks on the flat/longish Tour TT in 2013 - until the last all important one when the wind picked up - losing by a mere 13 seconds ...0 -
Funny how no one seems to be producing any power output evidence to 'support' doping accusations and are judging it 'by eye'
May be the numbers didn't work out the way they wanted.
They will when SDB signs him.0 -
Very tactically astute by Tom D. Won a psychological battle there, I know from club runs how much it gets in your head when you're pushing hard hoping to drop someone and they are just constantly glued to your wheel. Aru by contrast seemed a bit naive and desperate. If he felt he could fan the time back today he'd have been better saving his efforts for one big attack. Made for a very good final climb with all the attacks but nothing ever looked likely to break the top 10.
It was interesting to see how closely match the two out front were on the stage and on GC. Dumoulin's big worry will be if there's a small gap between him and Aru up the final climb on Saturday. He needs to keep as tight all the way up as he did today and make sure no Astana rider can get between them to let a gap develop.0 -
Mikkel Conde predicted there would be a strong headwind on that final climb. Just looking at the highlights now it looks like that's the case; difficult to get away, easier to stay in the wheels than making attacks stick0
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Very tactically astute by Tom D. Won a psychological battle there, I know from club runs how much it gets in your head when you're pushing hard hoping to drop someone and they are just constantly glued to your wheel. Aru by contrast seemed a bit naive and desperate. If he felt he could fan the time back today he'd have been better saving his efforts for one big attack. Made for a very good final climb with all the attacks but nothing ever looked likely to break the top 10.
It was interesting to see how closely match the two out front were on the stage and on GC. Dumoulin's big worry will be if there's a small gap between him and Aru up the final climb on Saturday. He needs to keep as tight all the way up as he did today and make sure no Astana rider can get between them to let a gap develop.
Shades of desperation creeping for Aru that he cant do any damage to Dumoulin, for sure
The HEAVYWEIGHT Dutchman looks cool as. He won the head games as well as leg games today0 -
The Giant rider who sat on Dumoulin's wheel and rode mountain domestique shotgun throughout, right up until Landa peeled off and Aru launched was?..........................
.......................Big John Degenkolb.
Giant by name, giant by nature these guys.
Another one of Frenchie's favourites........................not. 8)"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19700304#p19700304]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:The Giant rider who sat on Dumoulin's wheel and rode mountain domestique shotgun throughout, right up until Landa peeled off and Aru launched was?..........................
.......................Big John Degenkolb.
Giant by name, giant by nature these guys.
Another one of Frenchie's favourites........................not. 8)
Tee hee
HOW CAN THESE HEFFALUMPS CLIMB SO GOOOD0 -
Big John.........
BIG BAD JOHN
You have to sing that to make sense.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
