La Vuelta '15 #11 Andorra laVella/Cortals dEncamp *SPOILERS*
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Dickhead Landa:
@faustocoppi60 12h12 hours ago
Mikel Landa: "Martinelli told me to stop but I didn't. I thought it was a stupid thing to do."
Not surprising that a guy with that and previously demonstrated sh*t attitude will be going to team Sky.
Losing yet another stage due to another piece of disgraceful tactics from Astana (Giro..) was never going to happen. Of course he rode to win it this time. Astana are idiots.0 -
on a personal level I prefer Landa to that ghastly Aru any day of the week0
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Well I know you took the other side of the argument that time (unsurprisingly), so wont start a debate about it here, despite the fact Aru has a very realistic chance of taking the GC but needs as much time as he can before the TT.Contador is the Greatest0
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Cortals d'Encamp
2015:8,7 km@9,2%---27:25---average speed 19.04 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---28:05---average speed 18.59 km/h(Mikel LandaContador is the Greatest0 -
Cortals d'Encamp
2015:8,7 km@9,2%---27:25---average speed 19.04 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---28:05---average speed 18.59 km/h(Mikel Landa
Very surprised* the usual suspects haven't been wiping down their calculators with boxes of Kleenex
*not surprised at all0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694244#p19694244]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:on a personal level I prefer Landa to that ghastly Aru any day of the week
Visually or from another perspective? The catfish is no Basso but Landa is a pretty ugly fella as well.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Dickhead Landa:
@faustocoppi60 12h12 hours ago
Mikel Landa: "Martinelli told me to stop but I didn't. I thought it was a stupid thing to do."
Not surprising that a guy with that and previously demonstrated sh*t attitude will be going to team Sky.
Losing yet another stage due to another piece of disgraceful tactics from Astana (Giro..) was never going to happen. Of course he rode to win it this time. Astana are idiots.
.. and why would someone who apparently refuses to follow team orders be perfectly suited to a team where .... they DO have strongly defined team orders ... ?
Maybe leaving the Vino-managed team seems like an attractive and eminently sensible prospect and Landa has demonstrated he is a rider of no mean ability in GTs.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694252#p19694252]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Cortals d'Encamp
2015:8,7 km@9,2%---27:25---average speed 19.04 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---28:05---average speed 18.59 km/h(Mikel Landa
Very surprised* the usual suspects haven't been wiping down their calculators with boxes of Kleenex
*not surprised at all
Um, do they watch anything but the Tour though?
Money and attention grabbing losers for most of them.
However, the performance is not that great on its own, but probably amazing given the previous parcours.
@ammattipyoraily
#LV2015, Stage 11. Cortals d'Encamp (8.50 km, 8.91 %, 757 m)
Fabio Aru: 27 min 29 sec, 18.56 Kph, VAM 1653 m/h, 5.72 W/kg [DrF]Contador is the Greatest0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694252#p19694252]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Cortals d'Encamp
2015:8,7 km@9,2%---27:25---average speed 19.04 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---28:05---average speed 18.59 km/h(Mikel Landa
Very surprised* the usual suspects haven't been wiping down their calculators with boxes of Kleenex
*not surprised at all
Um, do they watch anything but the Tour though?
Money and attention grabbing losers for most of them.
However, the performance is not that great on its own, but probably amazing given the previous parcours.
@ammattipyoraily
#LV2015, Stage 11. Cortals d'Encamp (8.50 km, 8.91 %, 757 m)
Fabio Aru: 27 min 29 sec, 18.56 Kph, VAM 1653 m/h, 5.72 W/kg [DrF]
I think much of it IS centered around the Tour when 1) they can pick up lots of new followers, and 2) the likes of Vayer can get paid for writing scummy stuff for Le Monde
But a big part of it also stems from the blinkered, single focus on Sky. Its like the scenario where people are so obsessed about those new neighbours who've moved into the big house opposite, that they fail to notice that the houses either side of them are being burgled...
Though Veloclinic is ranting about Astana on his Twatter feed, and bemoaning the fact that no one's paying him any attention0 -
I think we can quantify froome's bike handling as not being the best of the best. not by a long way.Pro riders with incredible bike handling skills are crashing all the time in "accidents that shouldn't have happened"...
A peloton of 150 riders plus, on open roads - with all manner of nonsense random road furniture - it's like a shoal of fish doing its best to avoid the perils. Even the very best individuals get caught out on occasions.
Based on what evidence exactly?
the fact he crashes into team mates whilst staring at his stem, or suchlike.... I've said before he is by no means bad, but he is a long way short of being a great bike handler. i feel for the guy as he is genuinely a fantastic climber and a very good time triallist, as well as being vastly underrated in other areas of his riding. he is however, not easy on the eye...0 -
Dickhead Landa:
@faustocoppi60 12h12 hours ago
Mikel Landa: "Martinelli told me to stop but I didn't. I thought it was a stupid thing to do."
Not surprising that a guy with that and previously demonstrated sh*t attitude will be going to team Sky.
Losing yet another stage due to another piece of disgraceful tactics from Astana (Giro..) was never going to happen. Of course he rode to win it this time. Astana are idiots.
.. and why would someone who apparently refuses to follow team orders be perfectly suited to a team where .... they DO have strongly defined team orders ... ?
Maybe leaving the Vino-managed team seems like an attractive and eminently sensible prospect and Landa has demonstrated he is a rider of no mean ability in GTs.
Sky wouldn't leave their brains in the hotels before the stage stealing not only Landa's dead certain stage win but also potentially a GT-win. What Astana did to Landa on that day was so laughably stupid that whatever Landa decides to do on this team, it's totally okay. Like they were going to do it all over again to him. Not a chance and good on him.0 -
Contador is the Greatest0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694271#p19694271]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694252#p19694252]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Cortals d'Encamp
2015:8,7 km@9,2%---27:25---average speed 19.04 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---28:05---average speed 18.59 km/h(Mikel Landa
Very surprised* the usual suspects haven't been wiping down their calculators with boxes of Kleenex
*not surprised at all
Um, do they watch anything but the Tour though?
Money and attention grabbing losers for most of them.
However, the performance is not that great on its own, but probably amazing given the previous parcours.
@ammattipyoraily
#LV2015, Stage 11. Cortals d'Encamp (8.50 km, 8.91 %, 757 m)
Fabio Aru: 27 min 29 sec, 18.56 Kph, VAM 1653 m/h, 5.72 W/kg [DrF]
I think much of it IS centered around the Tour when 1) they can pick up lots of new followers, and 2) the likes of Vayer can get paid for writing scummy stuff for Le Monde
But a big part of it also stems from the blinkered, single focus on Sky. Its like the scenario where people are so obsessed about those new neighbours who've moved into the big house opposite, that they fail to notice that the houses either side of them are being burgled...
Though Veloclinic is ranting about Astana on his Twatter feed, and bemoaning the fact that no one's paying him any attention
But a rider's panache remember - a rider showing he has this gets an invisibility cloak, but ride like your a (fast) diesel train and people have the time to formulate their accusations. Jump around with sparkling variations in pace and people are loving your resemblance to climbers of old what natural class you have.0 -
I dont think so. Quintana seems generally to ride quite defensively even when he needs to attack. You can't ride like Froome when you're second if you've any ambitions of winning.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694180#p19694180]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
I think you're in danger of underestimating how much the Tour took out of riders who were racing for GC and at the front, day in day out0 -
I dont think so. Quintana seems generally to ride quite defensively even when he needs to attack. You can't ride like Froome when you're second if you've any ambitions of winning.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694180#p19694180]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
I think you're in danger of underestimating how much the Tour took out of riders who were racing for GC and at the front, day in day out
Because perhaps....whisper it quietly...he doesnt have the legs?0 -
a bad day for sky fanbois lololol Froome is not as hard as contador, nor is he as good a stage racer0
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Because perhaps....whisper it quietly...he doesnt have the legs?
So not beacuse I underestimate what the Tour took out of him?
Shame if you're right, but i think you might be. 0 -
Because perhaps....whisper it quietly...he doesnt have the legs?
So not beacuse I underestimate what the Tour took out of him? Shame if you're right, but i think you might be.
Bwahahahaha 0 -
It's funny how they only add context to their calculations when the numbers aren't high enough to appeal to the doping fans.
However, the performance is not that great on its own, but probably amazing given the previous parcours.
@ammattipyoraily
#LV2015, Stage 11. Cortals d'Encamp (8.50 km, 8.91 %, 757 m)
Fabio Aru: 27 min 29 sec, 18.56 Kph, VAM 1653 m/h, 5.72 W/kg [DrF]Twitter: @RichN950 -
It's funny how they only add context to their calculations when the numbers aren't high enough to appeal to the doping fans.
However, the performance is not that great on its own, but probably amazing given the previous parcours.
@ammattipyoraily
#LV2015, Stage 11. Cortals d'Encamp (8.50 km, 8.91 %, 757 m)
Fabio Aru: 27 min 29 sec, 18.56 Kph, VAM 1653 m/h, 5.72 W/kg [DrF]
I do wish you guys would stop giving them the oxygen of publicity0 -
Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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Contador is the Greatest0 -
Does riding and completing the whole of a stage dubbed 'the hardest ever GT stage' by some, losing only 8 minutes in the process, trump riding half a climb with a broken leg and then abandoning?0
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Does riding and completing the whole of a stage dubbed 'the hardest ever GT stage' by some, losing only 8 minutes in the process, trump riding half a climb with a badly bruised leg and then abandoning?
FIFY0 -
Does riding and completing the whole of a stage dubbed 'the hardest ever GT stage' by some, losing only 8 minutes in the process, trump riding half a climb with a badly bruised leg and then abandoning?
FIFY
You gone done it now...0 -
Does riding and completing the whole of a stage dubbed 'the hardest ever GT stage' by some, losing only 8 minutes in the process, trump riding half a climb with a broken leg and then abandoning?
Absolutely not.
You and anyone else are completely out of your mind if you think Contador pulled out of there without absolutely good reason.
Not only was he in incredible form, it is not something Contador has ever done before.
A lot of people on here enjoy playing down Contador's injury but it was really very serious. Much more than Froome's.Contador is the Greatest0 -
You have access to both their medical records then?0
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He fractured his tibia. Go and check the TdF medical bulletin. If you disagree with that then I can't help you.
He crashed at 78km/h and then rode his heart out to try and regain the time before the pain became too much as the adrenaline wore off.
Col du Platzerwasel
2014:7,1 km@8,4%
---21:58---average speed 19.39 km/h(Alberto Contador) -start at 594m
---22:58---average speed 18.55 km/h(Peloton)
“I did it, I put up with the pain, because we invested so much work in the Tour that I didn’t want to give up. I didn’t want all that work to go to waste, but a moment finally came when I realized that the Tour was over for me.”
“I wouldn’t know how to describe my feelings,” he told the four journalists waiting for him. “I am mostly sad over all the sacrifices that I made to reach the Tour in good shape. I worked really hard, and I think I can say that I had never prepared for a Tour the way I had prepared for this one.”
“For months I’ve been sacrificing everything. I was rarely in such a top condition as now. I want to make it clear,” he added.
Contador is the Greatest0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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"My mans injury was worse than yours"
Dear oh dear 0
