La Vuelta '15 #11 Andorra laVella/Cortals dEncamp *SPOILERS*
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Pro riders with incredible bike handling skills are crashing all the time in "accidents that shouldn't have happened"...
A peloton of 150 riders plus, on open roads - with all manner of nonsense random road furniture - it's like a shoal of fish doing its best to avoid the perils. Even the very best individuals get caught out on occasions.0 -
We have no idea what happened. I don't think Froome has said anything.I am right in thinking Froome crashed into the side of the road whilst going uphill right?
Got to cop some sh!t for that on here, even if he soldiered on.
That's what's being said. I haven't seen it but it sounds ridiculous and completely avoidable/amateurish. Ironic considering he showed his class on descents and cobbles on his way to winning the tour.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Off for an x-ray...
But of course our resident expert says that falling off doesn't ever change the ability to pedal.
In fairness, if you idolise Contador, then even dislocating your shoulder doesn't really affect your pedalling all that much...
If it had happened to Contador he'd have suffered a triple heart transplant and a double broken neck thoughWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Froome having an MRI in the morning. Will decide whether to continue after that.
What a lightweight. He needs to man up and ride.*
*obviously not what I actually thinkNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
So no photographer, TV cameraman, spectator or rider seems to have seen the Froome crash yet.
Clearly Froome's fault.0 -
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Chris Froome @chrisfroome
Knocked sideways into a barrier & stone wall today. Further scans in the morning but start unlikely as I can’t walk without crutches #LV2015
Really appreciate all the messages of support, I did my best to hang in there today as best I could with the hope of continuing #LV2015Twitter: @RichN950 -
Am I right in thinking that there is no night time testing at this Vuelta?0
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We have no idea what happened. I don't think Froome has said anything.I am right in thinking Froome crashed into the side of the road whilst going uphill right?
Got to cop some sh!t for that on here, even if he soldiered on.
That's what's being said. I haven't seen it but it sounds ridiculous and completely avoidable/amateurish. Ironic considering he showed his class on descents and cobbles on his way to winning the tour.
This is true. Shame for him really but sh1t happens and the tour has already been bagged which was the main target.0 -
'Knocked sideways into a barrier & stone wall today'
Suggests a third party was involved.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Really sucks that Froome is out of the race even if I had already told you that he doesn’t have it in him for a double. He is getting old so he needs to take his chances to notch up some more wins – Contador’s record is beyond catching by anyone but Nibali has three GTs and Chris is struggling to reach that number.
Got to admire his grit however – really not the stage you want to suffer a crash on at the beginning and race the rest in the pain cave. I guess his pain cave is pretty substantial though (one of his strengths), developed from 6 hour rides to complete exhaustion day after day when he was a youngster.
Was worried that there would be little change on the GC after today but luckily there was some serious damage on the final climb:
General Classification after Stage 11
ITA 1 ARU, Fabio (ASTANA) 43:12:19
ESP 2 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER, Joaquim (KATUSHA) + 27
NED 3 DUMOULIN, Tom (GIANT - ALPECIN) + 30
POL 4 MAJKA, Rafal (TINKOFF - SAXO) + 1:28
COL 5 CHAVES RUBIO, Johan Esteban (ORICA GreenEDGE) + 1:29
ESP 6 VALVERDE BELMONTE, Alejandro (MOVISTAR) + 1:52
ESP 7 MORENO FERNANDEZ, Daniel (KATUSHA) + 1:54
ESP 8 NIEVE ITURALDE, Mikel (SKY) + 1:58
COL 9 QUINTANA ROJAS, Nairo Alexander (MOVISTAR) + 3:07
RSA 10 MEINTJES, Louis (MTN - QHUBEKA) + 4:15
General Classification after Stage 10
NED 1 DUMOULIN, Tom (GIANT - ALPECIN) 38:34:56
ESP 2 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER, Joaquim (KATUSHA) + 57
COL 3 CHAVES RUBIO, Johan Esteban (ORICA GreenEDGE) + 59
IRL 4 ROCHE, Nicolas (SKY) + 1:07
ITA 5 ARU, Fabio (ASTANA) + 1:13
ESP 6 VALVERDE BELMONTE, Alejandro (MOVISTAR) + 1:17
COL 7 QUINTANA ROJAS, Nairo Alexander (MOVISTAR)
GBR 8 FROOME, Christopher (SKY) + 1:18
POL 9 MAJKA, Rafal (TINKOFF - SAXO) + 1:47
ITA 10 POZZOVIVO, Domenico (AG2R LA MONDIALE) + 1:52
Last rider in at 35 mins.
5 DNF: Paulinho, Isaychev, Veikkanen, Hardy, Tux
First Colombia rider in at a respectable 13th (next one 42nd)
Very happy to see that Dombro proved me wrong a little today. He finished 15th, only 4.19 back on Landa (same time as Quintana), despite crashing in the neutralized section and being pretty beat up:
Again a special mention to Boswell. Burning ride and pay attention to his style when riding – it is quite nice.
Dickhead Landa:
@faustocoppi60 12h12 hours ago
Mikel Landa: "Martinelli told me to stop but I didn't. I thought it was a stupid thing to do."
Not surprising that a guy with that and previously demonstrated sh*t attitude will be going to team Sky.
I previously said I was disappointed in Quintana. I take that back and will give my man a solid pat on the back:
"It really was hard for me last night, with a lot of fever and sort of a dehydration. Fortunately, I could get over the day. We're all human beings, with good and bad days, and I paid for an unexpected illness today," Quintana said. "I actually thought twice about abandoning during the stage, but I had to keep going. I couldn't let my team down. I could make it to the finish after a day where I really struggled, where I tried to keep the pace, helping out... but I couldn't do much. At least we're still in the race - I hope to recover and help my team-mates out."
Overrated = 25 years old, one GT win, two TdF 2nds, 6 top 5 major stage race placings. You need to readjust your scales. As for Dumoulin, maybe you can provide some backing to your claim.
Overrated rider passed by underrated rider.17 gram Colombian climbing sensation passed by 750kg Dutch rhino Dumoulin.
Dumoulin, still ridiculous. And you know that he even blames issues with his rain jacket to the reason the gap was created to the Valverde, Quintana group…I hope he gets buried on climbs to come
Unsurprisingly great comments from my man Aru:
"They were 140 very hard kilometers," Aru said. "At the start, we discussed that we would need to put Mikel (Landa) in the breakaway. He rode a very brave race at the front and he got a wonderful victory. I’m very happy for him because we already helped each other at the Giro. He’s a tough guy, very talented, and he deserves this victory.
"All the other guys helped me today: Vanotti, Zeits, Cataldo, Rosa, Luis Leon (Sanchez). All of them were perfect. I want to thank them for their work the whole day.
"I was going for my own race. When I saw the others looking at each other, I attacked with the idea to give it all until the finish line. It was 10 very painful kilometers. The whole stage was super hard. I attacked with eight kilometres to go and when I saw that Rodriguez and Moreno made it back, I attacked again.
"I wasn’t expecting that kind of result. I worked a lot for this. We were a bit unlucky in the first days, we lost Vincenzo (Nibali), we lost Paolo (Tiralongo). But it gave us the will to do good today. We showed we’re a great team, even with two guys down. We’ve been racing a very hard stage, with Mikel ahead. Hats off to Astana.
"We tried to make the race harder. And it was. It was the hardest stage in all the grand Tours that I rode. Really the hardest. I had never ridden a stage like this.
"The race is far from over. There are still a lot of days and still a lot of great riders for whom I have a lot of respect. I have to look at the GC to see where we stand. But first I need to rest.
"I worked very well since the Giro. I made the Vuelta my goal. Spain is a country I like a lot. I'm friends with many Spanish riders and the public likes me. It's always a pleasure to ride here."Contador is the Greatest0 -
I think we can quantify froome's bike handling as not being the best of the best. not by a long way.Pro riders with incredible bike handling skills are crashing all the time in "accidents that shouldn't have happened"...
A peloton of 150 riders plus, on open roads - with all manner of nonsense random road furniture - it's like a shoal of fish doing its best to avoid the perils. Even the very best individuals get caught out on occasions.0 -
I think we can quantify froome's bike handling as not being the best of the best. not by a long way.Pro riders with incredible bike handling skills are crashing all the time in "accidents that shouldn't have happened"...
A peloton of 150 riders plus, on open roads - with all manner of nonsense random road furniture - it's like a shoal of fish doing its best to avoid the perils. Even the very best individuals get caught out on occasions.
Based on what evidence exactly?0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
Apparently he's just too heavy for his 6'1" frame, the 71kg heifer.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
Don't make the mistake of confusing Frenchie's opinions with everyone's*....It's great to see how excited everyone in the club is about him at the moment. Glad the Dutch might finally have a rider worth cheering for in GTs
(*I mean, ever!)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
Apparently he's just too heavy for his 6'1" frame, the 71kg heifer.
I realize they are usually just underhand doping insinuations by people who rave about known dopers. For the moment the guy gets my admiration. Comes across well in interviews too.0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
Apparently he's just too heavy for his 6'1" frame, the 71kg heifer.
I realize they are usually just underhand doping insinuations by people who rave about known dopers. For the moment the guy gets my admiration. Comes across well in interviews too.
I agree completelyNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
Don't make the mistake of confusing Frenchie's opinions with everyone's*....It's great to see how excited everyone in the club is about him at the moment. Glad the Dutch might finally have a rider worth cheering for in GTs
(*I mean, ever!)
I said last week that I thought this was a great race. 'New' faces like Dumoulin and Chaves have really brought a breath of fresh air, added to the fact that they're with teams we don't usually see fighting for the GC.
Also, they've not just quietly ridden into contention but been really visible in every stage.0 -
We were a bit unlucky in the first days, we lost Vincenzo (Nibali)...
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Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
Read his quote in the post I made.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Can't understand anyone who doesn't appreciate Dumoulin's achievements in this race.
He's ridden out of his skin to still be in contention and with the TT to come who knows what he can achieve?
Big let down for me is Quintana, again. Seems to be so full of potential and hyped by everybody but so rarely on the offensive.
I think you're in danger of underestimating how much the Tour took out of riders who were racing for GC and at the front, day in day out0 -
Froome out of Vuelta with fractured foot.0
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Apparently Froome has a broken foot, so that's his race, and probably season, finished.
Inc the World's. Not that he was lined up as leader for the GB team, but anyway
*Rod Ellingworth reaches for the red pen*0 -
I'm not sure they would have picked him anyway. There's seven riders with as good or better one day credentials.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19694202#p19694202]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Apparently Froome has a broken foot, so that's his race, and probably season, finished.
Inc the World's. Not that he was lined up as leader for the GB team, but anyway
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It's a shame for the race. I don't think Froome's issues (if you can call them that) relate to bike handling - crashes happen to everyone. However, when he does crash he appears to be fragile so either it leads to a withdrawal or challenge to his ability to ride hard. I would hypothesize that he needs to get to such a low weight to peak that it is physiologically harmful to the extent that he is prone to significant injury/illness.0
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Apparently Froome has a broken foot, so that's his race, and probably season, finished.
And still finished the Queen stage.
If he was a true champion he'd have cried into the arms of a team mate and abandoned.Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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Apparently Froome has a broken foot, so that's his race, and probably season, finished.
and he rode 5 hours with 6 major climbs on that? and only came in 8 minutes down?
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Whatever people want to say about Froome, he's got some guts.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
