Bikes and electronic trickery....what would you want?
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19677539#p19677539]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Now this is a worthy idea. Not sure where I sit on the SWAT door. A good idea or structural weakness.
If you engineer the hole within the frame from the start, then you don't create a weak spot. If you go and cut a hole in your carbon downtube, I hope you have a good dentist0 -
Ah. Over here all our networks are national so they all cover most areas. You only lose coverage if you're out in the middle of nowhere. I try not to ride out in the middle of nowhere cause even if you have mobile coverage it takes the chopper too long to get there for my liking.There's places in the UK without mobile coverage? It's only the size of a postage stamp.
Depends on what network you're on and where you are.
Yeah, same here, all the networks are national but there are gaps in all of their coverage and, yes, that's often out in the middle of nowhere. And that's just where I like to ride. The further ai can get off the beaten track the better.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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To me the SWAT door looks like an engineered weak spot. I am no mechanical design engineer.
But if you have a tube that is 360 degree in material surely this has a higher strength than one that is maybe 180 degrees. More area to spread the load etc?
I might be wrong but logic dictates an all encompassing tube will be stronger than one with half of the surface area?0 -
Ah. Over here all our networks are national so they all cover most areas. You only lose coverage if you're out in the middle of nowhere. I try not to ride out in the middle of nowhere cause even if you have mobile coverage it takes the chopper too long to get there for my liking.There's places in the UK without mobile coverage? It's only the size of a postage stamp.
Depends on what network you're on and where you are.
Yeah, same here, all the networks are national but there are gaps in all of their coverage and, yes, that's often out in the middle of nowhere. And that's just where I like to ride. The further ai can get off the beaten track the better.
Was always led to believe you could call an emergency call despite network and location.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19677687#p19677687]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Was always led to believe you could call an emergency call despite network and location.
Don't think so. Can't get through if it hasn't got a signal. Happy to be corrected, though.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19677687#p19677687]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Was always led to believe you could call an emergency call despite network and location.
Don't think so. Can't get through if it hasn't got a signal. Happy to be corrected, though.
SMS works on a lower signal, but in terms of no (current network) your phone will automatically use any network available to make an emergency call. Same with sending an SOS SMS it uses minimal reception.
I may be wrong but this is my understanding.0 -
An emergency call can be made on any network regardless of who you use, It can even be made with a phone that has no SIM card but you do need signal. Regarding the middle of nowhere we only go there in groups cause over here for half the year at least the further out you go the more snakes you see.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19677687#p19677687]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:
Ah. Over here all our networks are national so they all cover most areas. You only lose coverage if you're out in the middle of nowhere. I try not to ride out in the middle of nowhere cause even if you have mobile coverage it takes the chopper too long to get there for my liking.There's places in the UK without mobile coverage? It's only the size of a postage stamp.
Depends on what network you're on and where you are.
Thankyou,
I maybe completely wrong, but if you can't make a call (no signal) you are still able to send a SMS SOS due to the low signal required. And I also thought SOS call were possible as they work on lower bandwidth and reception. Again I might be wrong but one of the above is true if memory serves me correct.
Yeah, same here, all the networks are national but there are gaps in all of their coverage and, yes, that's often out in the middle of nowhere. And that's just where I like to ride. The further ai can get off the beaten track the better.
Was always led to believe you could call an emergency call despite network and location.0 -
Emergency calls on mobiles use any available network, not just your own - there are relatively few places that get absolutely no reception at all. If you are in one of these places, then smoke signals or carrier pigeons might be an option.0
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See, you learn something new every day! Still not much use to me though as I rarely take one with me. Can't stand the damn things!All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Not taking a phone with you while cycling alone is just stupid.0
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Not taking a phone with you while cycling alone is just stupid.
I used to go night diving on my own. Compared to that cycling without a phone is like an exercise in health and safety.
All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Fully charged phone for solo riding at minimum.0
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I like the idea, being a geek, of having electronics on a bike. Sensor data for
speed
cadence
climb
gear selected
gear suggested
suspension activity
tyre pressure
everything
But I would probably never want a bike to rely on any electronics, even the new electronic shifters which look great would need to work when the electronics fritzed.
I like the the fact a bike is a pretty simple machine and pretty much anyone, if they are inclined, can keep one running and cobble together a get me home repair. In a world where I am at the mercy of the electron I like that my bike is an escape.0 -
See, you learn something new every day! Still not much use to me though as I rarely take one with me. Can't stand the damn things!
I take one but turn it off and stash it in my pack. I hate mobile phones and don't want it ringing or beeping while i'm out riding. It's there in case on an emergency. I have an I.C.E number written on the back of it as well just in case it wont work and I'm a bit smashed.
It was all ok in the days before mobile phones. I broke bones on my own, miles from anywhere in the days before them, I just had to man the f**k up and push my bike with a broken arm/collar bone more than once.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
I like the anti theft ideas. No reason it could not be frame integrated in manufacture. OH WAIT, it would have to be standardized......so much for the bike industry
If FEDEX can have a disposable GPS tracker for packages, why on earth are there any bikes without one?
Take it farther and really no reason to not have traces built in for shifters and everything else that will come down the pipe.
Things I'd personally like to see. Monofilament muscle actuators.
An integrated cellphone app that usb connects to your bike for all the info. (You could even build in crash detection there).
I'd rather use my old Galaxy S1 than any of the Garmins, Polars, Suunto's , Sigmas, Garneau's (I miss anyone on the shelf here yet??) anyday.
You go to a cellphone based system and all options are open. I will guarantee you there are enough IT geek cyclists out there willing to create a droid app for just about everything from monitoring your hydration to tire pressure.
Really in this day and age there is no reason other than manufacturers laziness to not have things like sensors built into the BB cartridge, rims or hubs. I mean it's a piece of magnet for heavens sake.
Integrated lighting would be nice. As my city has a mandatory warning device law, some electronic screamer at about 140 db, guaranteed to shatter car windows would be cool. LRAD array in miniature would be better.0 -
None of the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I don't do smileys.
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Personally, other than some kind of basic tracking feature in case of theft, I don't want any electronics near my bike...
Look at phones normally about a 2year life span and so on.. I want solid parts that if needed I can repair (or fudge) as required to get me home in case of any issues. Plus I've yet to see an electronic system that really improves on what we have mechanically?0 -
Computers work better using electronics I believe. The abacus was a bit restrictive.PPlus I've yet to see an electronic system that really improves on what we have mechanically?I don't do smileys.
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Computers work better using electronics I believe. The abacus was a bit restrictive.PPlus I've yet to see an electronic system that really improves on what we have mechanically?
On a bike. think context fella...
Plus how do you know what a computer is? I thought you were 2000 and thought posting to the forum was a magic trick?0 -
Computers work better using electronics I believe. The abacus was a bit restrictive.PPlus I've yet to see an electronic system that really improves on what we have mechanically?
On a bike. think context fella...
Plus how do you know what a computer is? I thought you were 2000 and thought posting to the forum was a magic trick?
I advise my butler, who gives the message to a footman, who carries it on a silver platter to my secretary. What she does with it is of no concern to me. I assume she has access to a telegraph.
No magic involved.
Just minions.I don't do smileys.
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Why could an anti theft device not be standardized?
Without going on a tangent and thinking of so many other things that are standardized.
Is a pedal not standardized? Has to perform the same function no matter what brand it is from or what bike it is fitted to. Some are just better designed and utilized more than others.
Anti theft and some form of built in sensors I think would be enough.0 -
Pedals are standard, for now at least. Of course next year Trek will release enduro specific Pedal+ with a slightly larger thread and PedalLite with a slightly smaller thread.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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I know let's standardise the positioning too. My frames worth 1/40 of the rest of my bike. Just angle grind it out.0
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I know let's standardise the positioning too. My frames worth 1/40 of the rest of my bike. Just angle grind it out.
And here we go again.0 -
Pedals are standard, for now at least. Of course next year Trek will release enduro specific Pedal+ with a slightly larger thread and PedalLite with a slightly smaller thread.
Has there been a problem with pedal axles breaking? What is the legwork behind this idea or is it going to be another wheel-size product? 26" 650b 29" 650b+ etc etc.0 -
Sarcasm. Whooooosh0
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Sarcasm. Whooooosh
You always have a comment for me, tell me what you would do to prevent bike theft.
Or if you think you can grind out a piece of frame to remove a device, then you don't understand impregnating a frame with something. This can be done in so many ways and doesn't have to follow the same rule every time.
How do you think bike lock makers achieve certain standards (bronze, silver and gold sold secure standards that in most cases must be a minimum for insurers) whilst trying to maximize all of the variables.
Simple take one platform and create so many variables it isn't worth trying.
Guessing you have never had a bike stolen before or are you just too arrogant to realize the possibilities of technology.
Or maybe I should send this post to you using smoke signals. That sounds backwards thinking enough to sound plausible.0 -
Sarcasm. Whooooosh
In fact having a look at your responses to people asking genuine questions.
You don't actually offer any advice instead only negativity. This only leads me to one conclusion. You can work that out for your self.
But I don't think I would be far wrong in saying this following clip is for you. You seem to grasp no knowledgeable terms about engineering but spout off about it all like you are heaven and hell.
Anyway hear is the clip that seems so fitting;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VISVRzC-u680 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19687072#p19687072]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Pedals are standard, for now at least. Of course next year Trek will release enduro specific Pedal+ with a slightly larger thread and PedalLite with a slightly smaller thread.
Has there been a problem with pedal axles breaking? What is the legwork behind this idea or is it going to be another wheel-size product? 26" 650b 29" 650b+ etc etc.
Missed the point?0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19687072#p19687072]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Pedals are standard, for now at least. Of course next year Trek will release enduro specific Pedal+ with a slightly larger thread and PedalLite with a slightly smaller thread.
Has there been a problem with pedal axles breaking? What is the legwork behind this idea or is it going to be another wheel-size product? 26" 650b 29" 650b+ etc etc.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19687117#p19687117]Clockworkmark31[/url] wrote:Sarcasm. Whooooosh
...........Or maybe I should send this post to you using smoke signals. That sounds backwards thinking enough to sound plausibleSarcasm. WhoooooshI don't do smileys.
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