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JackPozziJackPozzi Posts: 1,191
edited July 2015 in Pro race
Interview with Oleg, 2nd paragraph under the in praise of team sky heading

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/author/oleg-tinkov-chapeau-to-team-sky-but-theyre-going-to-kill-the-business/
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  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    Kwiatkowski, landa are the two big rumours.

    I'd imagine they'll bring in another classics hitter.
  • norvernrobnorvernrob Posts: 1,410
    edited July 2015
    Interview with Oleg, 2nd paragraph under the in praise of team sky heading

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/author/oleg-tinkov-chapeau-to-team-sky-but-theyre-going-to-kill-the-business/

    Kwiatkowski, Intxausti, Landa all heavily rumoured, and two young Brits that I can't remember the names of. :oops:

    It's interesting that Tinkoff says Sky plan years ahead because of the commitment from Murdoch, whilst other teams are simply trying to survive and even those with big budgets can only go year to year as the sponsorship could end.
  • Oleg drama queenery

    Kwiatkoswski
    Golas

    Quite possibly Mikel Landa

    Izagirre brothers also linked


    This from the man who paid a Russian billionaire's ransom for Sagz
  • AnonymousAnonymous Posts: 28,799
    these are from cycling transfers web page: GOLAS Michal POL ETIXX - QUICK STEP TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Jon ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    PETERS Alex GBR SEG RACING TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao GBR AXEON CYCLING TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Benat ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal POL ETIXX - QUICK STEP TEAM SKY Rumour 07-22
    LANDA MEANA Mikel ESP ASTANA PRO TEAM TEAM SKY
  • argyllflyerargyllflyer Posts: 893
    Oleg was more widely making the point that Sky don't spend more money than anyone else but sign potential, whereas he and the other big spenders are having to sign more immediate talent and have a much more short-term vision. It's a damning statement to suggest that a team with a long-term view is damaging the sport! However, he's probably right.

    That said, Vaughters' horrific vision of an NFL/Cycling hybrid gives me little hope either.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 15,490
    It's an audacious double signing of Digger and Kimmage.
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  • MacaloonMacaloon Posts: 5,545
    It's an audacious double signing of Digger and Kimmage.
    Then the evil plan is complete

    They kept the Vayer signing secret for years. Don't see them blowing Digger so soon.
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  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,767
    these are from cycling transfers web page: GOLAS Michal POL ETIXX - QUICK STEP TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Jon ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    PETERS Alex GBR SEG RACING TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    GEOGHEGAN HART Tao GBR AXEON CYCLING TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Benat ESP MOVISTAR TEAM TEAM SKY Rumour 07-24
    KWIATKOWSKI Michal POL ETIXX - QUICK STEP TEAM SKY Rumour 07-22
    LANDA MEANA Mikel ESP ASTANA PRO TEAM TEAM SKY

    No French?! Sacré bleu…

    At least we've got Alex Peters in there - beautiful British name. What with the 2 variants of Mike (3 riders), 2 variants of Insausti/Intxausti (3 riders), 2 brothers and an exotic double-barrelled bloke from the far east (Hackney), correct rider identification and pronunciation are going to cause havoc in the commentary booths...
  • The_BoyThe_Boy Posts: 3,099
    FdJ have had the same sponsor since 1997. Likewise Cofidis. Ag2R since 2000 (they were co-sponsor 97-99). Lampre have been main sponsor since 1992.

    Granted those sponsors didn't put pen to paper on a ten year+ contract at the outset, but there is clearly a close relationship between the team and sponsor which will allow the team to plan for the future - even if only on a provisional basis.

    Tinkoff would be better minded to not blow 12M Euro on a rider who hasn't yet won a monument. Not o mention that he appears to be bankrolling his team, so if he wants to plan ahead and can go ahead and do that.

    I'm quite tired of his homophobia, bile and godshitery and would happily see the back of him and his hypocrisy and ethically dubious approach to 'professionalism'.
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  • MacaloonMacaloon Posts: 5,545

    No French?! Sacré bleu…

    At least we've got Alex Peters in there - beautiful British name. What with the 2 variants of Mike (3 riders), 2 variants of Insausti/Intxausti (3 riders), 2 brothers and an exotic double-barrelled bloke from the far east (Hackney), correct rider identification and pronunciation are going to cause havoc in the commentary booths...

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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 8,611
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    On one of his podcast appearances he says that there was no connection with Eastern philosophies. Impossible, of course.
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  • andrewjosephandrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    Oleg seemed to contradict himself in every other paragraph.
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  • frenchfighterfrenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Was a big fan of Kwiatek from early so will be entirely disappointed to see him in Sky colours and methodology. Golas would make sense as they are good friends.

    They are welcome to Landa. From a palmare point of view his Giro was hors normes. I wonder if he can repeat it.

    Good job they got rid of Porte though. Not only does he have zero three week ability he will probably just pace Froome up a mountain whatever team he is in which is great business for Sky.
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  • ManOfKentManOfKent Posts: 392
    I'm a bit surprised they're linked with Alex Peters. A couple of people I know have said unfavourable things about his attitude and that seems to be a big factor for Sky, getting riders who are reliable and understand that it's a team sport.
  • robnewcastlerobnewcastle Posts: 213
    Was a big fan of Kwiatek from early so will be entirely disappointed to see him in Sky colours and methodology. Golas would make sense as they are good friends.

    They are welcome to Landa. From a palmare point of view his Giro was hors normes. I wonder if he can repeat it.

    Good job they got rid of Porte though. Not only does he have zero three week ability he will probably just pace Froome up a mountain whatever team he is in which is great business for Sky.

    FF are Saxo rumoured to be bringing in any reinforcements for Contador for next season? You'd imagine if he has a full tilt at the tour next year he'll need some renewed climbing support.

    Porte is too inconsistent but he's been vital for Froome. Landa is talented but it's still a bit of an unknown. If as rumoured Sky bring in some of Movistars climbing support to go with what they've got they'll be well stocked to defend next year.
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    Tinkov has heard the rumours of who is going to Sky and is a very worried man. He is right in a sense as Sky are clearly Germany vs everyone else who is Portugal or England or god forbid, The Faroe Islands or Scotland.
  • Tinkov has heard the rumours of who is going to Sky and is a very worried man. He is right in a sense as Sky are clearly Germany vs everyone else who is Portugal or England or god forbid, The Faroe Islands or Scotland.

    Was with you until the Scotland bit. Wait till we pump you home and away in qualifying :D
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  • TurfleTurfle Posts: 3,762
    It's an interesting, if flawed, point that he makes about the ability to plan a few years in advance. Sky are not alone among the big teams in being able to do that, but it certainly gives them a leg up over the teams a level below.

    Regarding the signings they're reportedly making, it's really not going to change the landscape other than Sky perhaps being more dangerous in hilly classics. Intxausti and Gorka Izagirre are unlikely to impact much other than incrementally improving their Giro depth, Landa and Ion Izagirre were seen as the two big talents when Euskaltel closed, but combined they're unlikely to come close to replicating Porte's successes.
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    Tinkov has heard the rumours of who is going to Sky and is a very worried man. He is right in a sense as Sky are clearly Germany vs everyone else who is Portugal or England or god forbid, The Faroe Islands or Scotland.

    Was with you until the Scotland bit. Wait till we pump you home and away in qualifying :D

    Just lol. England are sh*te, but not that sh*te.
  • joelsimjoelsim Posts: 7,552
    It's an interesting, if flawed, point that he makes about the ability to plan a few years in advance. Sky are not alone among the big teams in being able to do that, but it certainly gives them a leg up over the teams a level below.

    Regarding the signings they're reportedly making, it's really not going to change the landscape other than Sky perhaps being more dangerous in hilly classics. Intxausti and Gorka Izagirre are unlikely to impact much other than incrementally improving their Giro depth, Landa and Ion Izagirre were seen as the two big talents when Euskaltel closed, but combined they're unlikely to come close to replicating Porte's successes.

    Nah. Kwia is a huge talent. Ion Izaguirre too will do well on climbs and as part of a TTT, plus will give depth to one week races. Gorka is coming along nicely, and on Giro performance Landa could be a superstar (blood tests permitting).
  • TurfleTurfle Posts: 3,762
    It's an interesting, if flawed, point that he makes about the ability to plan a few years in advance. Sky are not alone among the big teams in being able to do that, but it certainly gives them a leg up over the teams a level below.

    Regarding the signings they're reportedly making, it's really not going to change the landscape other than Sky perhaps being more dangerous in hilly classics. Intxausti and Gorka Izagirre are unlikely to impact much other than incrementally improving their Giro depth, Landa and Ion Izagirre were seen as the two big talents when Euskaltel closed, but combined they're unlikely to come close to replicating Porte's successes.

    Nah. Kwia is a huge talent. Ion Izaguirre too will do well on climbs and as part of a TTT, plus will give depth to one week races. Gorka is coming along nicely, and on Giro performance Landa could be a superstar (blood tests permitting).

    Not suggesting they're not riders that will improve that team overall, but they're also losing a huge talent and a lot of big wins too. If they can replace Porte's contributions + get a big one day win in the hills I think they'll have done very well.
  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,767
    It's an interesting, if flawed, point that he makes about the ability to plan a few years in advance. Sky are not alone among the big teams in being able to do that, but it certainly gives them a leg up over the teams a level below.

    Regarding the signings they're reportedly making, it's really not going to change the landscape other than Sky perhaps being more dangerous in hilly classics. Intxausti and Gorka Izagirre are unlikely to impact much other than incrementally improving their Giro depth, Landa and Ion Izagirre were seen as the two big talents when Euskaltel closed, but combined they're unlikely to come close to replicating Porte's successes.

    Nah. Kwia is a huge talent. Ion Izaguirre too will do well on climbs and as part of a TTT, plus will give depth to one week races. Gorka is coming along nicely, and on Giro performance Landa could be a superstar (blood tests permitting).

    Although, what with them all very likely dopers, talent is all relative, eh Joel?
  • poppitpoppit Posts: 926
    Who is the 'world's most brilliant young rider' that Brailsford says he's signed in today's Times article?
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  • Who is the 'world's most brilliant young rider' that Brailsford says he's signed in today's Times article?


    Kwiatkowski or Landa. May end up with both.
  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,767
    Who is the 'world's most brilliant young rider' that Brailsford says he's signed in today's Times article?

    Chris Froome's unborn son.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 15,490
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    For the exact quote, it was 'one of the world's most brilliant young riders'
  • hammeritehammerite Posts: 3,408
    So Oleg isn't happy about another team's good management.

    Imagine what BMC would be like if they actually had a strategy instead of blowing a stack of cash on any aging rider with a rainbow stripe to their name. Great riders that they were, it was hardly a good long term plan.
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,321
    Sagan


    The internet would actually break

    For the exact quote, it was 'one of the world's most brilliant young riders'

    Tao then.
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