Lanterne Rouge 2015 ***SPOILERS***
No_Ta_Doctor
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In the hope of tempting the lovely Tusher back to the forum, I'll start this one off. Advanced Warning: There's not much hope of me being able to update frequently this year!
No Cheng? So who is the favourite?
Tufty Swine, the lanterne of 2013, must be in with a good shout.
No Cheng? So who is the favourite?
Tufty Swine, the lanterne of 2013, must be in with a good shout.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19640345#p19640345]SpecialGuestStar[/url] wrote:Johan VanSummeren
Hmm, interesting choice. A 7th place in the 2012 edition says he has potential, though he was beaten by nearly 18 minutes.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
He wasn't selected for "Our man", but I think Julien Vermote is in with a shout.
He's the new Bert Grabsch, and will be mostly chasing breaks on flat stages and out the back on lumpy ones0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19640361#p19640361]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:He wasn't selected for "Our man", but I think Julien Vermote is in with a shout.
He's the new Bert Grabsch, and will be mostly chasing breaks on flat stages and out the back on lumpy ones
The fact that he'll be in Cav's sprint train means that he's unlikely to pick up those all important minutes on the flat stages though.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
It didn't stop Wim Vansevenant in Robbie McEwen's train, or Cheng in Kittel's...0
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Confirmation of the resurgence of French cycling, with 7 riders in the top 10. Mikael Cherel takes the honours though, at +3'36", over 1 minute ahead of the next rider, Brice Feillu.0
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Methinks that i may be awarded the lanterne this year. Well, the Forum Lanterne at any rate.
Forgive me, kind sirs- but I've brought some dainty victoria sponges for you, and some meringues........0 -
Confirmation of the resurgence of French cycling, with 7 riders in the top 10. Mikael Cherel takes the honours though, at +3'36", over 1 minute ahead of the next rider, Brice Feillu.
Brice won't be there for long though, he was the leader of the legendary team BSE last year and finished the GC in a commendable 16th place.0 -
Blimey! Where on earth have you been? Good to have you back here.Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Methinks that i may be awarded the lanterne this year. Well, the Forum Lanterne at any rate.
Forgive me, kind sirs- but I've brought some dainty victoria sponges for you, and some meringues........Twitter: @RichN950 -
Tusher! Where the actual heck have you been? I was trying to remember your forum name when listening to the Cavendish thing in the Cycling Podcast...Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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Tusher!
Awesome. What a lovely day and it's been hot and I have no actual idea who's coming last but they deserve it, it was devilishly hot out there today :twisted: so who wouldn't be struggling.Correlation is not causation.0 -
Bauke Mollema
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Bottom Five
Stijn Devolder (Bel) Trek Factory Racing 0:22:35
Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:22:40
Markel Irizar (Spa) Trek Factory Racing 0:23:03
Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal "
Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:26:56
I'll be surprised if Bling survives the full tour. If tough man Hansen hangs in there he could have a good chance of winning this thing...0 -
Bottom Five
Stijn Devolder (Bel) Trek Factory Racing 0:22:35
Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:22:40
Markel Irizar (Spa) Trek Factory Racing 0:23:03
Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal "
Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:26:56
I'll be surprised if Bling survives the full tour. If tough man Hansen hangs in there he could have a good chance of winning this thing...
Hansen is only sandbagging in order to get the chance of riding 200km by himself to take a stage. This is also what will stop him from getting the Lanterne Rouge.0 -
Bottom Five
187 Laurent Didier (Lux) Trek Factory Racing 0:36:28
188 Alex Dowsett (GBr) Movistar Team 0:38:42
189 Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:39:42
190 Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal 0:40:05
191 Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:43:58
Hansen and Matthews both nursing injuries. Dowsett and Didier the two new entrants. Dowsett finished 26 mins down after a spill...0 -
Bottom Five
187 Laurent Didier (Lux) Trek Factory Racing 0:36:28
188 Alex Dowsett (GBr) Movistar Team 0:38:42
189 Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:39:42
190 Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal 0:40:05
191 Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:43:58
Hansen and Matthews both nursing injuries. Dowsett and Didier the two new entrants. Dowsett finished 26 mins down after a spill...
None of them will make it through the mountains. (Except perhaps Hansen)0 -
None of them will make it through the mountains. (Except perhaps Hansen)Bottom Five
187 Laurent Didier (Lux) Trek Factory Racing 0:36:28
188 Alex Dowsett (GBr) Movistar Team 0:38:42
189 Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:39:42
190 Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal 0:40:05
191 Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:43:58
Hansen and Matthews both nursing injuries. Dowsett and Didier the two new entrants. Dowsett finished 26 mins down after a spill...
An excellent solo breakaway by time trial specialist Dowsett to put his name into the mix today though - rare to see such a long-range attack succeed.0 -
Poor Alex! One of my mates said he was about 15 minutes down when he came past. He'd better not do too well in the TT or he'll scupper his chances of getting the lanterne rouge0
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Poor Alex! One of my mates said he was about 15 minutes down when he came past. He'd better not do too well in the TT or he'll scupper his chances of getting the lanterne rouge
Annoyingly he's got 5 days til the TT and I suspect this is gonna smart on tribars
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Adam Hansen not quoted on their site, surely a strong contender given his injuries and determination to finish GTsYou can bet on the Lanterne Rouge!
Here are the odds from Paddy Power:
7/1 Cimolai
14/1 Naulleau, Dowsett, Demare
16/1 Dempster
18/1 Sinkeldam, Henderson, Bennett, Soupe
20/1 Renshaw
22/1 Vanbilsen0 -
Bottom Five
185 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Team LottoNL-Jumbo 0:50:30
186 Alex Dowsett (GBr) Movistar Team 0:52:57
187 Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits 0:53:57
188 Adam Hansen (Aus) Lotto Soudal 0:54:20
189 Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica GreenEdge 0:58:13
Poor show from Didier who finished just outside the front group, ejecting himself from the competition. The rest of the gang all finished in the gruppetto with Ten Dam emerging as a contender.0 -
That's a pretty solid grip the Anglophones have on the top five there.
Worth also pointing out that past Lanterne Tufty Swine is sitting just outside the top ten, with less than 11 minutes to lose. A rider like him could easily go on a solo break and take that in a single stage.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
That's a pretty solid grip the Anglophones have on the top five there.
Worth also pointing out that past Lanterne Tufty Swine is sitting just outside the top ten, with less than 11 minutes to lose. A rider like him could easily go on a solo break and take that in a single stage.
Can we start calling it the red light then?0 -
That's a pretty solid grip the Anglophones have on the top five there.
Worth also pointing out that past Lanterne Tufty Swine is sitting just outside the top ten, with less than 11 minutes to lose. A rider like him could easily go on a solo break and take that in a single stage.
Can we start calling it the red light then?
That's all kinds of wrong.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
You'd imagine Ten Dam will either abandon, or recover enough to take time back in the mountains?0
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That's a pretty solid grip the Anglophones have on the top five there.
Worth also pointing out that past Lanterne Tufty Swine is sitting just outside the top ten, with less than 11 minutes to lose. A rider like him could easily go on a solo break and take that in a single stage.
Can we start calling it the red light then?
We won't be, but even if we did it would still have to be "le red light"...0 -
How is the cut off time calculated?
Is it a certain percentage over the stage winners time?
I feel sorry for the autobus, I can imagine it's hard to maintain the pace over such a long hard tour and if you're struggling with an injury you could get slower and slower. I do feel for the guys who had to pull out."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
How is the cut off time calculated?
Is it a certain percentage over the stage winners time?
I feel sorry for the autobus, I can imagine it's hard to maintain the pace over such a long hard tour and if you're struggling with an injury you could get slower and slower. I do feel for the guys who had to pull out.
Each stage has a coefficient set by the organisers in advance which determines sprint points and other things including what set of elimination times to use.
InnerRing has them here http://inrng.com/tour/ about half way down the page. Today is a coefficient 1.
Each coefficient has a set of average speeds for the winner of the stage - with percentages listed for each
http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2015/docs/TDF15_Reglement-BD.pdf
Coefficient 1(étapes sans difficulté particulière)
Il est accordé un délai d’arrivée établi sur le
temps réel du vainqueur augmenté de :
• 3 % si la moyenne kilométrique est inférieure
ou égale à 36 km/h ;
• 4 % au-delà de 36 km/h jusqu’à 38 km/h;
• 5 % au-delà de 38 km/h jusqu’à 40 km/h;
• 6 % au-delà de 40 km/h jusqu’à 42 km/h;
• 7 % au-delà de 42 km/h jusqu’à 44 km/h;
• 8 % au-delà de 44 km/h jusqu’à 46 km/h;
• 9 % au-delà de 46 km/h jusqu’à 48 km/h;
• 10 % au-delà de 48 km/h jusqu’à 50 km/h;
• 11 % au-delà de 50 km/h.
So you take the percentage that matches the average speed and multiply the winning time by that percentage and that is the extra time that will be allowed. The jury can waive these rules in special circumstances. I believe there is an extra rule for a large autobus but I am struggling to find it0
