Cav on the science of sprinting
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Now where on the Dial is that staion.Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Now where on the Dial is that staion.
Medium Wave. 693 and 909.
Or on an internet.0 -
The science of sprinting my ars*!! there is no science. Its simply stick a bunch of blokes in front of you for an entire stage, try and keep the legs as rested as possible, then put the effort in 200m from the line. What f'kin science??
Cav has got to be one of THE most overrated sprinters of all time. He's actually managed to forge a career, and most of his wins, being the biggest one-trick-pony in cycling. His routine to every race he's ever ridden breaks down into:
1. amble about in the bunch
2. near the end, form the train
3. follow in the train last man.
4. get them peel off one by one until 300m
5. break from the last man and sprint.
At this point, he's one of the fastest sprinters. But thats only if every single part of that stage has gone 100% according to plan. Even a 1% divergence in that plan results in the following
1. follow the race leaders with a miserable face
2. know you're not going to compete so sit up and look p*ssed off, blowing 3-4hours worth of team effort into the bin.
Cav cannot win anything unless its 100% to plan. Anything remotely different and he's useless. He'll pull his miserable face like he was gutted when in fact he gave up a mile out knowing it wasn't working.
Hes a lazy b*strd Cav, he doesn't have the ability to just jostle and chase like Sagan can. He doesn't have the ability to fight for anything and rub shoulders 200m out if his nose isn't in front, he always gives up. He's simply not prepared to fight for anything if it means it will look like he's going to finish 2nd or 3rd unlike most other sprinters.
He's pretty much managed to create an illusion around him that he's unbeatable but in actual fact he's been beaten quite a bit and in a straight out fight with Kittel he's been show up for what he is. He'll blow his top about his lead out train, deflecting the gaze away from him and blame others when he doesn't perform but if i was in his team i would tell him to pull his finger out and stop hiding and blaming others. He pretty much screwed up in the Tour last year in Harrogate because he got beat then tried to fudge his way through knowing he had no chance, it meant going down gave him his get-out-of-jail card for his poor performance.
I don't see what people see in Cav.0 -
I don't see what people see in Cav.
Well given that everything you ve written is total nonsense I'm not surprised.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I get the feeling that he's not a fan.Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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Isn't his current science to enter chippers that are beneath Greipel and Kittel and beat the carp out of non-world tour riders?
Marco Chipperlini
I'll get my coat.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Cav has got to be one of THE most overrated sprinters of all time. He's actually managed to forge a career, and most of his wins, being the biggest one-trick-pony in cycling. His routine to every race he's ever ridden breaks down into:
1. amble about in the bunch
2. near the end, form the train
3. follow in the train last man.
4. get them peel off one by one until 300m
5. break from the last man and sprint.
At this point, he's one of the fastest sprinters. But thats only if every single part of that stage has gone 100% according to plan.
So pretty much what every other sprinter has ever done?
Jog on.0 -
I don't see what people see in Cav.
25x stage Tour de France ('13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08)
15x stage Giro d´Italia ('13, '12, '11, '09, '08)
World Championships Road Race ('11)
3x Scheldeprijs ('11, '08, '07)
Milano-Sanremo ('09)
3x stage Vuelta a Espana ('10)
9x stage Amgen Tour Of California ('15, '14, '10, '09)
8x stage Tour of Qatar ('13, '12, '09)
GC Tour of Qatar ('13)
You're right, he's shit isn't he. (And that's just the "highlights"!)Trail fun - Transition Bandit
Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
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TdF 2013, Stage 130
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BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.0
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The only thing that's been beneath Kittel this season is a sick bucket.Isn't his current science to enter chippers that are beneath Greipel and KittelTwitter: @RichN950 -
The only thing that's been beneath Kittel this season is a sick bucket.Isn't his current science to enter chippers that are beneath Greipel and Kittel
Fair nuff. But Cav hasn't exactly been winning monuments...It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!
Worth my £5? (Asks typical, tight ageing club cyclist). The Radio 5 thing was excellent. I like Rob Hales. An hour or two of Hales and Cav reminiscing is something I'd definitely pay for. Add Wiggins and it would be the perfect chat show.0 -
The science of sprinting my ars*!! there is no science. Its simply stick a bunch of blokes in front of you for an entire stage, try and keep the legs as rested as possible, then put the effort in 200m from the line. What f'kin science??
Cav has got to be one of THE most overrated sprinters of all time. He's actually managed to forge a career, and most of his wins, being the biggest one-trick-pony in cycling. His routine to every race he's ever ridden breaks down into:
1. amble about in the bunch
2. near the end, form the train
3. follow in the train last man.
4. get them peel off one by one until 300m
5. break from the last man and sprint.
At this point, he's one of the fastest sprinters. But thats only if every single part of that stage has gone 100% according to plan. Even a 1% divergence in that plan results in the following
1. follow the race leaders with a miserable face
2. know you're not going to compete so sit up and look p*ssed off, blowing 3-4hours worth of team effort into the bin.
Cav cannot win anything unless its 100% to plan. Anything remotely different and he's useless. He'll pull his miserable face like he was gutted when in fact he gave up a mile out knowing it wasn't working.
Hes a lazy b*strd Cav, he doesn't have the ability to just jostle and chase like Sagan can. He doesn't have the ability to fight for anything and rub shoulders 200m out if his nose isn't in front, he always gives up. He's simply not prepared to fight for anything if it means it will look like he's going to finish 2nd or 3rd unlike most other sprinters.
He's pretty much managed to create an illusion around him that he's unbeatable but in actual fact he's been beaten quite a bit and in a straight out fight with Kittel he's been show up for what he is. He'll blow his top about his lead out train, deflecting the gaze away from him and blame others when he doesn't perform but if i was in his team i would tell him to pull his finger out and stop hiding and blaming others. He pretty much screwed up in the Tour last year in Harrogate because he got beat then tried to fudge his way through knowing he had no chance, it meant going down gave him his get-out-of-jail card for his poor performance.
I don't see what people see in Cav.
If he gives up so much, isn't prepared to fight and is a lazy b*stard, how come he wins so much? How come he gets paid millions a year to win?
Even if he didn't have the ability to jostle and chase like Sagan can, he will blow Sagan into the weeds in 9 out of 10 sprints. Sprinters like Cav aren't ten a penny or every team would have one and he wouldn't win anywhere near as much.0 -
I saw at the beginning of the year that he was very doubtful of qualifying for Rio 2016 - what happened about that? Did he definitely fail to qualify?
He is just exciting to watch - and I would have liked to see him there.0 -
BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!
Did you have any issues resetting your password, as I've not had the email through yet...0 -
The problem was that they changed the rules for the track events. Countries used to qualify for events and they could fill the team with who they liked. But now in the individual events, the riders have to get enough ranking points themselves - which would mean Cavendish needing to do more track riding than his team would allow.I saw at the beginning of the year that he was very doubtful of qualifying for Rio 2016 - what happened about that? Did he definitely fail to qualify?
He is just exciting to watch - and I would have liked to see him there.Twitter: @RichN950 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19634467#p19634467]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!
Did you have any issues resetting your password, as I've not had the email through yet...
yeah, me neither... I had to resort to the velocast instead...0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19634467#p19634467]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!
Did you have any issues resetting your password, as I've not had the email through yet...
yeah, me neither... I had to resort to the velocast instead...
It came in my junk (for want of a better phrase) and it's now on my iPod ready for my listening pleasure in the morning0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19634578#p19634578]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19634467#p19634467]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:BTW for those of us that are Friends of the Podcast we got our link to the latest Cycling Podcast special - Daniel Friebe at home with Mark Cavendish - this morning. Looking forward to listening to that on the train home.
It doesnt disappoint!
Did you have any issues resetting your password, as I've not had the email through yet...
yeah, me neither... I had to resort to the velocast instead...
It came in my junk (for want of a better phrase) and it's now on my iPod ready for my listening pleasure in the morning
Yeah, mine arrived this morning. Will probably have to wait until after the weekend for a listen now...0 -
so apparently there is a hilarious video on the 5 live website of cavendish falling into a giant puddle whilst motopacing (in the world champ bands no less) .... but can't find it.0
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so apparently there is a hilarious video on the 5 live website of cavendish falling into a giant puddle whilst motopacing (in the world champ bands no less) .... but can't find it.
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Just 3 races to counter Ashbeck's nonsense
2009 TdF Stage 19
2013 National Champs in Glasgow
The aforementioned 2013 TdF Stage"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I didn't think it needed countering. It's stupidity spoke for itself.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19634891#p19634891]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:Just 3 races to counter Ashbeck's nonsenseTwitter: @RichN950 -
Contador is the Greatest0 -
Always enjoyed the facial expressions of messrs Cavendish and Yates as they show how a team respects a jersey.
...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Always enjoyed the facial expressions of messrs Cavendish and Yates as they show how a team respects a jersey.
That sound ladies and gentlemen, is the bottom of the barrel being scraped."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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....and here is another one of Team Sky disrespecting the jersey......Always enjoyed the facial expressions of messrs Cavendish and Yates as they show how a team respects a jersey.
You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.0 -
Always enjoyed the facial expressions of messrs Cavendish and Yates as they show how a team respects a jersey.
Christ he were a fat lad then. " I will only take them if the bottles are green"...0
