Can't Decide Which I Like Better

Tiglath
Tiglath Posts: 83
edited June 2015 in Your road bikes
My left or my right long middle finger. Picture available on request.
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  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    Pina. They look like small.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Sorry, I can't see past those stems..
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    The supercorsa is really quite unusual looking with those parts on. I'd say some vintage campag would be more sympathetic to the look of the frame.
  • antsmithmk
    antsmithmk Posts: 717
    How odd. ... to have crashed them both and to have such similar damage to the stems.
  • metronome
    metronome Posts: 670
    Not really a modern Pinarello fan but that looks very cool 8)
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Sorry, I can't see past those stems..

    This. Sorry.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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    He's right you know.
  • Flâneur
    Flâneur Posts: 3,081
    the stems draw the eye
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  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    How much of the Supercorsa's stem is still inside the head tube? It looks as if there may not be enough.
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  • mugensi
    mugensi Posts: 559
    Both look ugly due to the bars/stem set up but as to which to chose, only you can decide that. Have you to sell one of them or why are you looking to chose between them? It appears they are both vastly different bikes, the supercorsa with a bolt upright position and the pinarello with a slightly racier position so both obviously used for different types of cycling. Why do you need to decide?
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Why do you need to decide?

    I think you're missing point. It's not about making a choice, it's a willy-waving thread.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    THE STEMS!!!
  • Miles253
    Miles253 Posts: 535
    Aero bike, Aero position!
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  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    Why do you need to decide?

    I think you're missing point. It's not about making a choice, it's a willy-waving thread.

    Apparently money can't buy taste....

    SRAM Red on the Cinelli? Red tyres and Bar tape?

    The Pina isn't too bad though (except for the obvious stem issues).
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    Why do you need to decide?

    I think you're missing point. It's not about making a choice, it's a willy-waving thread.

    Apparently money can't buy taste....

    SRAM Red on the Cinelli? Red tyres and Bar tape?

    The Pina isn't too bad though (except for the obvious stem issues).

    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    My left or my right long middle finger. Picture available on request.

    oh clever...
  • PhilPub
    PhilPub Posts: 229
    Red and more red (in my opinion) is a bad thing because the different reds rarely match perfectly, and coloured tyres rarely look good full-stop.
    Besides which, the thread title in itself is virtually inviting opinion on the bikes' aesthetics from anyone who cares to read it. Even with the stem disclaimer, you seem to be expecting a whole load of compliments and are clearly somewhat aggrieved that your bikes are not to everyone's taste.
    The Cinelli is a lovely frame, but I'd build it up differently myself. 8)
  • mugensi
    mugensi Posts: 559
    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.

    I think its a little bit childish of you to get all upset and throw your toys out of the pram just because you didn't get the reaction you were hoping for. Neither were particularly nice looking bikes in my opinion and by posting pictures of them you were inviting peoples reactions/opinions on them. To make matters worse you then removed the pictures and added a comment which further compounds your childish it's my ball and I'm not playing anymore' behaviour. They're your bikes and you obviously like them, so what if no one else finds them as appealing as you did!
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    edited June 2015
    The title of this forum is Your Road Bikes, and its description starts with "Show off..."

    Certain people should not visit this forum because there are damn nice bikes in it. And if you don't have much money to spend on bikes, and ride say an old Raleigh or some cheap Allez and are prone to envy and jealousy you are likely to feel terrible pangs and cramps. Even if you don't like the bikes you see you might read about the precise shifting of top groupsets or the divine experience of electronic ones, way above your budget. And then you are going to post something that shows your poor-man's rage like Monroe showed her knickers in the wind, though far less pretty.

    Nearly all replies had to do with looks only, whereas what distinguishes these bikes is their superb ride, raised stem notwithstanding, which does not matter at all unless you race. I posted pictures because when I just talk about the bikes people ask for them. My comments and title, however, had nothing to do with looks, just the ride and components.

    I do not seek anyone's adulation, the best compliments come from the bikes themselves as I ride them. I merely posted my road bikes as many others do, thinking that someone may have similar bikes and would share their thoughts with some solidarity, but mostly I got the raw sewage above. Is the UK still in the grip of the recession so badly that the mere sight of a good bike prompts such fishwifey reactions?

    Cross the pond to the land of opportunity and get a Cinelli, in your color, with a weeks's wages, folks. There you go.
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    edited June 2015
    Red and more red (in my opinion) is a bad thing because the different reds rarely match perfectly, and coloured tyres rarely look good full-stop

    Besides which, the thread title in itself is virtually inviting opinion on the bikes' aesthetics from anyone who cares to read it. Even with the stem disclaimer, you seem to be expecting a whole load of compliments and are clearly somewhat aggrieved that your bikes are not to everyone's taste.
    The Cinelli is a lovely frame, but I'd build it up differently myself. 8)

    Taste and facts are different things.

    Facts are as good as the evidence for them, but taste needs not justification. In matters of taste nothing is or is not. The most you can say is, "I like" or "I don't like" -- full stop.

    People who make THEIR taste a universal fact show a poor understanding of the world they live in. If colored tires "were" bad, they would not sell. But the fact is that they do sell because while some people don't like them, others do.

    It's perfectly all right that someone doesn't like my red bike, but making out that people with tastes different from theirs have bad taste is not only impolite but also says more about them than my taste.
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.

    I think its a little bit childish of you to get all upset and throw your toys out of the pram



    ???

    Upset is when people cry. Lifting the middle finger involves no tears. Learn the difference.

    You say you don't like my bike, cool, I say "I do, different folks..." But some cash-strapped imbecile bitches, "money can't buy taste", I say f you and your mother too. You talk turkey, here is some stuffing and gravy.
  • metronome
    metronome Posts: 670
    You're clearly the funniest thing to happen here in a while. Please carry on :lol:
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  • turbotommy
    turbotommy Posts: 493
    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.

    I think its a little bit childish of you to get all upset and throw your toys out of the pram



    ???

    Upset is when people cry. Lifting the middle finger involves no tears. Learn the difference.

    You say you don't like my bike, cool, I say "I do, different folks..." But some cash-strapped imbecile bitches, "money can't buy taste", I say f you and your mother too. You talk turkey, here is some stuffing and gravy.

    You have to expect people to give their opinion when you post things on a public forum. Sadly for your seemingly very delicate ego the masses haven't taken to your bikes like you thought they would? Try and take it as constructive criticism rather than a personal slight....

    if it's easier for you to tell yourself we're all bitter and jealous then that's fine. But matching that lovely classic frame with the sram crankset is far worse than anything anyone has said about your bikes, IN MY OPINION.
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  • Giraffoto
    Giraffoto Posts: 2,078
    Try and take it as constructive criticism rather than a personal slight....

    An excellent point. When I wrote
    How much of the Supercorsa's stem is still inside the head tube? It looks as if there may not be enough.

    . . . that was a genuine concern - I remember the bad old days when a quill stem was all you could get, and I don't ever remember seeing one that could go that high and leave a reasonable amount in the steerer. Bear in mind that a longer length of exposed stem applies more leverage to what's in the steerer
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  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    Why do you need to decide?

    I think you're missing point. It's not about making a choice, it's a willy-waving thread.

    Apparently money can't buy taste....

    SRAM Red on the Cinelli? Red tyres and Bar tape?

    The Pina isn't too bad though (except for the obvious stem issues).

    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.

    For someone that has to ask other people which one of their bikes they should like more, you seem to take great offence when someone gives an opinion.
    Where did I suggest that the Cinelli should have an Italian group on it? I said that the SRAM RED does not look good on that bike, I made no suggestion that an alternative SRAM or Shimano groupset should not be on there.
  • PhilPub
    PhilPub Posts: 229
    Can we have the pictures back please? I can't remember what the cranks look like.
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    edited June 2015
    matching that lovely classic frame with the sram crankset is far worse than anything anyone has said about your bikes, IN MY OPINION.

    I like how the SRAM Red groupset looks and more importantly how it works, nothing else feels like it. I have it on the Cinelli because I much prefer it to any other shifter.

    That's how cyclists who spend more time riding their bike than looking at it think, now if you are the car show spokes model, I can see how you would consider looks first.
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    Try and take it as constructive criticism rather than a personal slight....

    An excellent point. When I wrote
    How much of the Supercorsa's stem is still inside the head tube? It looks as if there may not be enough.

    . . . that was a genuine concern - I remember the bad old days when a quill stem was all you could get, and I don't ever remember seeing one that could go that high and leave a reasonable amount in the steerer. Bear in mind that a longer length of exposed stem applies more leverage to what's in the steerer

    Thank you for your concern. The stem has a safe inserted length.
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    edited June 2015
    Can we have the pictures back please? I can't remember what the cranks look like.

    Stock Dura-Ace Di2 and SRAM Red
  • Tiglath
    Tiglath Posts: 83
    edited June 2015
    Why do you need to decide?

    I think you're missing point. It's not about making a choice, it's a willy-waving thread.

    Apparently money can't buy taste....

    SRAM Red on the Cinelli? Red tyres and Bar tape?

    The Pina isn't too bad though (except for the obvious stem issues).

    Even after stating that the high stem is not a style choice but a medical necessity I get slammed for it. It must be awful to have no manners.

    And who made you the arbiter of taste? Since when red clashes with more red?

    Where is it written that an Italian frame must have an Italian groupset? Who is the snob here?

    Why write more really, when I have a long middle finger on each hand for the perfect reply. Pictures available on request.

    For someone that has to ask other people which one of their bikes they should like more, you seem to take great offence when someone gives an opinion.

    Where did I ask such thing of anyone? "Can't decide which bike I like better" is a declarative statement not a question. Learn the difference, Einstein.

    Your rude first post in reply to me, absent provocation, set the level of what I expect from you and what you can expect from me.

    As I said before, with a character like yours and just an old Raleigh and an cheap Allez to ride, you should not frequent the forum where people show off bikes you can only dream off. It makes you mean and nasty and payback is a b-i-t-c-h.
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