BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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I thought the problem was how to future proof future divergencejohn80 said:
How many things have they agreed equivalence on. From a fully compliant nation that has currently enacted pretty much no legislation to change stuff post departure that says it all really. Do you honestly think the EU are knuckling down to the task.tailwindhome said:
In what way do you think the EU are actively stalling?john80 said:There is claims about minimising checks in the deal that are actively being stalled by the EU. The EU want to make it hard for UK businesses to service existing markets in the hope that this benefits Irish and EU firms. Fair play to them but I think it is going to backfire as they are hardly winning the argument on the ground.
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You can't. You can only deal with the changes when they arise as any other trading partners would. The ideological position that the EU want to control sovereign states for a time is a bit much no. Deal with it when it arises as any other nations would.surrey_commuter said:
I thought the problem was how to future proof future divergencejohn80 said:
How many things have they agreed equivalence on. From a fully compliant nation that has currently enacted pretty much no legislation to change stuff post departure that says it all really. Do you honestly think the EU are knuckling down to the task.tailwindhome said:
In what way do you think the EU are actively stalling?john80 said:There is claims about minimising checks in the deal that are actively being stalled by the EU. The EU want to make it hard for UK businesses to service existing markets in the hope that this benefits Irish and EU firms. Fair play to them but I think it is going to backfire as they are hardly winning the argument on the ground.
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you need to see past your animosity to the EUjohn80 said:
You can't. You can only deal with the changes when they arise as any other trading partners would. The ideological position that the EU want to control sovereign states for a time is a bit much no. Deal with it when it arises as any other nations would.surrey_commuter said:
I thought the problem was how to future proof future divergencejohn80 said:
How many things have they agreed equivalence on. From a fully compliant nation that has currently enacted pretty much no legislation to change stuff post departure that says it all really. Do you honestly think the EU are knuckling down to the task.tailwindhome said:
In what way do you think the EU are actively stalling?john80 said:There is claims about minimising checks in the deal that are actively being stalled by the EU. The EU want to make it hard for UK businesses to service existing markets in the hope that this benefits Irish and EU firms. Fair play to them but I think it is going to backfire as they are hardly winning the argument on the ground.
nobody has ever struck a trade deal which is worse than what already existed and has to be designed to cope with future divergence. Therefore every other previous trade deal has not had to wrestle with this problem.
GB insisted on their right to diverge which comes with a cost
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If one side makes lots of noise about how they will thrive once released from the shackles of EU rules, then why would the other side plan around the first sticking to EU rules?
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rick_chasey said:
Wonder if BoJo wishes he didn't have to throw the backstop under the bus to become PM.
That would imply he has any sense of regret about anything. There's little evidence he ever has.0 -
There's no process of agreeing equivalences in the Protocol.john80 said:
How many things have they agreed equivalence on. From a fully compliant nation that has currently enacted pretty much no legislation to change stuff post departure that says it all really. Do you honestly think the EU are knuckling down to the task.tailwindhome said:
In what way do you think the EU are actively stalling?john80 said:There is claims about minimising checks in the deal that are actively being stalled by the EU. The EU want to make it hard for UK businesses to service existing markets in the hope that this benefits Irish and EU firms. Fair play to them but I think it is going to backfire as they are hardly winning the argument on the ground.
I'm not sure what you think they're stalling on.
Do you mean they haven't agreed to something different than what's been agreed?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
tailwindhome said:
There's no process of agreeing equivalences in the Protocol.john80 said:
How many things have they agreed equivalence on. From a fully compliant nation that has currently enacted pretty much no legislation to change stuff post departure that says it all really. Do you honestly think the EU are knuckling down to the task.tailwindhome said:
In what way do you think the EU are actively stalling?john80 said:There is claims about minimising checks in the deal that are actively being stalled by the EU. The EU want to make it hard for UK businesses to service existing markets in the hope that this benefits Irish and EU firms. Fair play to them but I think it is going to backfire as they are hardly winning the argument on the ground.
I'm not sure what you think they're stalling on.
Do you mean they haven't agreed to something different than what's been agreed?
It's those furriners, innit, being 'overly purist' (Raab) about a legally binding document which was hailed as a great victory for the UK.
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That short article contains everything that needs to thrown back in the face of anybody claiming this could not have been predicted even quoting Boris talking cr@p about the “great British banger”kingstongraham said:
So what baffles me is why does nobody shove this back in his face?0 -
One for the seemingly (not) trivial things that intrigue you thread.surrey_commuter said:
That short article contains everything that needs to thrown back in the face of anybody claiming this could not have been predicted even quoting Boris talking cr@p about the “great British banger”kingstongraham said:
So what baffles me is why does nobody shove this back in his face?
Or is that particular combo not one that exists yet?0 -
surrey_commuter said:
That short article contains everything that needs to thrown back in the face of anybody claiming this could not have been predicted even quoting Boris talking cr@p about the “great British banger”kingstongraham said:
So what baffles me is why does nobody shove this back in his face?
Will I be labelled a traitor if I say I prefer French sausages?0 -
I used to love Chinese sausages (bought in Chinatown by papa). Don't think I've had one for about 20 years.briantrumpet said:surrey_commuter said:
That short article contains everything that needs to thrown back in the face of anybody claiming this could not have been predicted even quoting Boris talking cr@p about the “great British banger”kingstongraham said:
So what baffles me is why does nobody shove this back in his face?
Will I be labelled a traitor if I say I prefer French sausages?0 -
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Do brexiters not get angry and shout a lot?morstar said:0 -
Only the ones with no powers of reasoni…darkhairedlord said:
Do brexiters not get angry and shout a lot?morstar said:
Oh, right, I see what you mean.0 -
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Lot of good they'll be https://globalnews.ca/news/4958745/sausages-canada-mystery-meat/rick_chasey said:0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
In Carbis Bay Village,
that the rich all hath pillaged.
I first set my eyes
on Sweet Justin Trudeau
As they drive their Land Rovo's,
Through streets much too narrow,
Crying Sausage and hot dogs
not Frozen aye-oh
Not Frozen Aye-oh
...etcWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Creative solutions, now pragmatic solutions. A misunderstanding negotiating partner.
Absolutely no mention of promising the impossible and achieving the inevitable.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57453004
All remains somebody else fault at every step of the sorry saga.
I accept we voted out, just fucking own it.
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Obviously they went with option C but the full consequences hadn't been considered.
They also went with options A & B while wanting D.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
If it wasn’t quite so bad for their livelihoods this would be one of the most delicious “I told you so”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jun/13/end-of-the-line-how-brexit-left-hulls-fishing-industry-facing-extinction
Especially given the prominence of fishing in the leave campaign.0 -
I know it should not surprise me but I was flabbergasted that Frosty wore Union Jack socks to his G7 meetings.
I presume these privately educated cvnts have a good giggle
In the world of commerce acting like a pr1ck and poor performance gets you fired.0 -
They vote Brexit and they now vote Tory.rick_chasey said:If it wasn’t quite so bad for their livelihoods this would be one of the most delicious “I told you so”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jun/13/end-of-the-line-how-brexit-left-hulls-fishing-industry-facing-extinction
Especially given the prominence of fishing in the leave campaign.
They tell us they know what they’re voting for.
Struggling to feel any sympathy.0 -
Yep they were very specifically told this would happen so they have literally got what they voted formorstar said:
They vote Brexit and they now vote Tory.rick_chasey said:If it wasn’t quite so bad for their livelihoods this would be one of the most delicious “I told you so”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jun/13/end-of-the-line-how-brexit-left-hulls-fishing-industry-facing-extinction
Especially given the prominence of fishing in the leave campaign.
They tell us they know what they’re voting for.
Struggling to feel any sympathy.0 -
I just wish those who I argued against about the fishing all those years ago had the stones to post.
Alas. I’ll chalk it up as a (hollow) victory. One for the MSM eh?0
