BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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You forgot Bleu d'Auvergne.hopkinb wrote:Burgundy, cognac, epoisses, cassoulet, boeuf en daube, jurançon, roquefort, bouillabaisse, champagne, comte, tomme de savoie, tartiflette, lapin a la moutarde, jambon beurre, sauternes, calvados, moules frites, jambon persillade, rillettes, tartare, quenelles de brochet, croissants. Jeebus, I could go on. What have you got doggo? Pedigree chum?0 -
briantrumpet wrote:
You forgot Bleu d'Auvergne.hopkinb wrote:Burgundy, cognac, epoisses, cassoulet, boeuf en daube, jurançon, roquefort, bouillabaisse, champagne, comte, tomme de savoie, tartiflette, lapin a la moutarde, jambon beurre, sauternes, calvados, moules frites, jambon persillade, rillettes, tartare, quenelles de brochet, croissants. Jeebus, I could go on. What have you got doggo? Pedigree chum?
I forgot most of the cuisine.0 -
Probably because you'd drunk too much Côtes du Rhône.hopkinb wrote:briantrumpet wrote:
You forgot Bleu d'Auvergne.hopkinb wrote:Burgundy, cognac, epoisses, cassoulet, boeuf en daube, jurançon, roquefort, bouillabaisse, champagne, comte, tomme de savoie, tartiflette, lapin a la moutarde, jambon beurre, sauternes, calvados, moules frites, jambon persillade, rillettes, tartare, quenelles de brochet, croissants. Jeebus, I could go on. What have you got doggo? Pedigree chum?
I forgot most of the cuisine.0 -
briantrumpet wrote:
Probably because you'd drunk too much Côtes du Rhône.hopkinb wrote:briantrumpet wrote:
You forgot Bleu d'Auvergne.hopkinb wrote:Burgundy, cognac, epoisses, cassoulet, boeuf en daube, jurançon, roquefort, bouillabaisse, champagne, comte, tomme de savoie, tartiflette, lapin a la moutarde, jambon beurre, sauternes, calvados, moules frites, jambon persillade, rillettes, tartare, quenelles de brochet, croissants. Jeebus, I could go on. What have you got doggo? Pedigree chum?
I forgot most of the cuisine.
Not this evening. But I do like CdR.0 -
Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
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Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
"Peak tw@t"TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
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Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now0 -
The french are not miserable. Did paris best paris in August and I dont think there is a friendlier and more supportive nation than the French. Yes I am talking about about that same country full of arrogant snooty people. It turns out a nation can be many things. French was not part of nato in 1982 they are now. There foreign.policy has changed and so has the level of military co operation between our two countries. Countries that may not have had the best relationship at one point in time can change and grow closer. That has happened with britain and france
It is shame your experiences in the Falklands war allesandog prevent you from appreciating that. Howeve war and the lives it costs make your position understandable. Those changes have happened though do your current characterisation of the french is unfair.http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.0 -
Alejandrosdog wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:
Technically The Falklands episode wasn't a war, it was a conflict. That said, it wasn't as if we needed any NATO help to kick their ar$es.darkhairedlord wrote:Ah yes, I do remember Nato forces swinging into action during the Falklands war....
errrr hmmm I understand the sentiment and our troops were significantly better trained and we kicked ass but your ability to do that depended on a supply chain which was significantly damaged by the lost of the Atlantic Conveyor. 3 commando brigade, of which I was a member, was particularly impacted by this and we lost significant ordinance, helicopters and fuel supplies.
The Atlantic Conveyor was sunk by two Exocet missiles supplied by our NATO partners France. France superficially supported the uk in stopping Argentina getting anymore Exocets but also had a government owned company in Argentina for the duration of the war and identified which launchers were operational and also fault identification, the Argies did the rest.
Despite 3 commando Brigade being the worlds best troops, we could have been undone by French support for Latin America. The French are the most ungrateful miserable race on earth and our partners in NATO.
I'd a mate, called himself Fishfish, who was in 3 Commando ISTR.0 -
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I thought that the fairly anonymous Finnish bloke who holds the rotating EU presidency set a new deadline just the other day?Rick Chasey wrote:Today is 30 since BoJo had that press event with Mera.
Where’s the solution?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Stevo 666 wrote:
I thought that the fairly anonymous Finnish bloke who holds the rotating EU presidency set a new deadline just the other day?Rick Chasey wrote:Today is 30 since BoJo had that press event with Mera.
Where’s the solution?
Annti Rinne(sp?) said 30 Sept is when homework must be handed in.
Polish chap, Sikorski, says keep back stop but give it a new name.
UK negotiators are apparently providing solutions in the form of 'non-papers', these they show to the other side but don't let them keep them in case they spill the beans.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Why, do you think they're on the cusp of something?
You could have a cusp of a Tusk.0 -
Robert88 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:
I thought that the fairly anonymous Finnish bloke who holds the rotating EU presidency set a new deadline just the other day?Rick Chasey wrote:Today is 30 since BoJo had that press event with Mera.
Where’s the solution?
Annti Rinne(sp?) said 30 Sept is when homework must be handed in.
Polish chap, Sikorski, says keep back stop but give it a new name.
UK negotiators are apparently providing solutions in the form of 'non-papers', these they show to the other side but don't let them keep them in case they spill the beans.
Plan seems to be to hold off putting anything forward until the absolute last minute presumably to minimise the chances of people realising that it is more or less the same thing they've voted against 3 times already. It's effectively the same tactics as May, but trying to make the threat of no deal more real.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Dont know. Probably not on the cusp. This may go to the wire unless other aspects of UK politics come into play.Rick Chasey wrote:Why, do you think they're on the cusp of something?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:
Dont know. Probably not on the cusp. This may go to the wire unless other aspects of UK politics come into play.Rick Chasey wrote:Why, do you think they're on the cusp of something?
Have to say you are showing a lot of blind faith as the current noises (UK cutting negotiating team by half, EU negotiators saying they're not hearing anything new, UK side confirming that), and past precedence suggests the polar opposite.0 -
Not really. It may go to the wire and no deal is reached even then. I reckon no deal is a 50/50. Pure speculation though.Rick Chasey wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:
Dont know. Probably not on the cusp. This may go to the wire unless other aspects of UK politics come into play.Rick Chasey wrote:Why, do you think they're on the cusp of something?
Have to say you are showing a lot of blind faith as the current noises (UK cutting negotiating team by half, EU negotiators saying they're not hearing anything new, UK side confirming that), and past precedence suggests the polar opposite."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Either way it cuts the head off of the ERG and BP serpents. He can say "job done" quick GE then spend the next 20 years in protracted negotiations around the world. Or something like that.Stevo 666 wrote:
Not really. It may go to the wire and no deal is reached even then. I reckon no deal is a 50/50. Pure speculation though.Rick Chasey wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:
Dont know. Probably not on the cusp. This may go to the wire unless other aspects of UK politics come into play.Rick Chasey wrote:Why, do you think they're on the cusp of something?
Have to say you are showing a lot of blind faith as the current noises (UK cutting negotiating team by half, EU negotiators saying they're not hearing anything new, UK side confirming that), and past precedence suggests the polar opposite.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
Ok not quite right
YouGov - 2019-09-18
Con: 32%
LDem: 23%
Lab: 21%
BRX: 14%
Grn: 4%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%
UKIP: 1%
Flavible Projection
CON: 331 (+13)
LAB: 155 (-107)
LDEM: 88 (+76)
SNP: 51 (+16)
PC: 6 (+2)
GRN: 1 (-)
Changes w/ 20170 -
Interesting that Nigel continues to be Mr F*** All.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
The lack of correlation between vote share and share of seats under FPTP really is stark. Is it simply that Lib Dems are often second choice whereas in Labour heartlands the Tories get nothing and vice versa?0 -
Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
The lack of correlation between vote share and share of seats under FPTP really is stark. Is it simply that Lib Dems are often second choice whereas in Labour heartlands the Tories get nothing and vice versa?
Broadly speaking labour benefit most from current boundaries, followed by the Tories.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
Ok not quite right
YouGov - 2019-09-18
Con: 32%
LDem: 23%
Lab: 21%
BRX: 14%
Grn: 4%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%
UKIP: 1%
Flavible Projection
CON: 331 (+13)
LAB: 155 (-107)
LDEM: 88 (+76)
SNP: 51 (+16)
PC: 6 (+2)
GRN: 1 (-)
Changes w/ 2017
So the Tories go down 10% of the vote and up 13 seats. That seems fair.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
Ok not quite right
YouGov - 2019-09-18
Con: 32%
LDem: 23%
Lab: 21%
BRX: 14%
Grn: 4%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%
UKIP: 1%
Flavible Projection
CON: 331 (+13)
LAB: 155 (-107)
LDEM: 88 (+76)
SNP: 51 (+16)
PC: 6 (+2)
GRN: 1 (-)
Changes w/ 2017
I think there'll be huge surprises when in comes to % swings and seats won and lost.
I'd take seat projections with bucketfuls of salt.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Emily Thornberry wrote:The Lib Dems have gotten kind of Taliban, haven’t they? They’ve said they’re just going to revoke, there’s not going to be another referendum.Tim Farron
@timfarron
Come on Emily, if we really were like a Middle East terrorist group, don’t you think Jeremy would’ve invited us to a conference fringe meeting before now?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Emily Thornberry wrote:The Lib Dems have gotten kind of Taliban, haven’t they? They’ve said they’re just going to revoke, there’s not going to be another referendum.Tim Farron
@timfarron
Come on Emily, if we really were like a Middle East terrorist group, don’t you think Jeremy would’ve invited us to a conference fringe meeting before now?
That was a good come back by Farron."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No wonder Corbyn wimped out on a GE.Rick Chasey wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
Ok not quite right
YouGov - 2019-09-18
Con: 32%
LDem: 23%
Lab: 21%
BRX: 14%
Grn: 4%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%
UKIP: 1%
Flavible Projection
CON: 331 (+13)
LAB: 155 (-107)
LDEM: 88 (+76)
SNP: 51 (+16)
PC: 6 (+2)
GRN: 1 (-)
Changes w/ 2017"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Westminster Voting Intention
CON: 32% (=)
LDM: 23% (+4)
LAB: 21% (-2)
BXP: 14% (=)
GRN: 4% (-3)
Via
@YouGov
.
Changes w/ 9-10 Sep.
That's a nice wee bounce.
Labour need to find a coherent policy at conference.
Boris has peaked - it's do or die for him now
Projected onto seats, Lib Dems get something like 23 seats, so it's not all that exciting.
(Saw this on twitter by someone who does it for a living)
Ok not quite right
YouGov - 2019-09-18
Con: 32%
LDem: 23%
Lab: 21%
BRX: 14%
Grn: 4%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%
UKIP: 1%
Flavible Projection
CON: 331 (+13)
LAB: 155 (-107)
LDEM: 88 (+76)
SNP: 51 (+16)
PC: 6 (+2)
GRN: 1 (-)
Changes w/ 2017
I think there'll be huge surprises when in comes to % swings and seats won and lost.
I'd take seat projections with bucketfuls of salt.
Of course. If Johnson fails to leave on 31st, I think 0 seats for Nigel is a bit optimistic.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0
