Froome out of Tirreno
slim_boy_fat
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Out due to a chest infection.
Bit of a shame as it was shaping up to be an early season test of the main protagonists.
Wait for The Clinic to explode.
“@TeamSky: Chris Froome's will miss #Tirreno due to a chest infection. Reaction from the man himself at http://t.co/Q1lDynUqTD http://t.co/o409BnVJIF”
Bit of a shame as it was shaping up to be an early season test of the main protagonists.
Wait for The Clinic to explode.
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Just as the CIRC report is published. Coincidence? I think not.
/clinicTeam My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
TUE for a course of prednisolone because of the 'asthma complications' in 3...2...1...0
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Why would he need a TUE when he has already been given the green light from his compatriot Cookson to dope 90s style? The TUE was just to throw people of the scent.
Open your eyes, sheeeple!!11!Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
I don't think you can blame Cookson. If he does nothing about it over the next few months, then you can.0
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Ridiculous. He needs to sort out these chest infections.
Was going to be Froome v Contador v Quintana v Nibali. Never happened before properly.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Shame.
So who else is riding for sky?
Vasil Kiryienka, Leopold König, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Salvatore Puccio, Kanstantsin Siutsou, Ian Stannard and Elia Viviani.0 -
Fist pumps of relief all round then at Tinkov, Astana and Movistar after seeing what Froome did in Andalucia...0
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Just seen it reported that Kittel is out also.0
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frenchfighter wrote:Ridiculous. He needs to sort out these chest infections.
Was going to be Froome v Contador v Quintana v Nibali. Never happened before properly.
I imagine if he has asthma he's more susceptible, and I'm always of the (unproven) opinion that being on-form-skinny all year round means you will get ill more often.0 -
sjmclean wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Shame.
So who else is riding for sky?
Vasil Kiryienka, Leopold König, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Salvatore Puccio, Kanstantsin Siutsou, Ian Stannard and Elia Viviani.
Konig for GC then? nice one.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Ridiculous. He needs to sort out these chest infections.
Was going to be Froome v Contador v Quintana v Nibali. Never happened before properly.
I imagine if he has asthma he's more susceptible, and I'm always of the (unproven) opinion that being on-form-skinny all year round means you will get ill more often.
The old "get some meat on you then you've got it to lose" trick?0 -
Frustrating. I just hope that this doesn't turn into the kind of season he had last year.0
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Could this just be a bug that is running through Sky camp? Kennaugh withdrew at very short notice from S-B and they have been training and racing together.0
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mr_poll wrote:Could this just be a bug that is running through Sky camp? Kennaugh withdrew at very short notice from S-B and they have been training and racing together.
That could be the immediate cause. You do get the sense though that Froome is fundamentally more prone to infection than most (given his past). Plus, as Rick says, having to maintain such a low body fat percentage probably doesn't help either.0 -
The_Boy wrote:sjmclean wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Shame.
So who else is riding for sky?
Vasil Kiryienka, Leopold König, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Salvatore Puccio, Kanstantsin Siutsou, Ian Stannard and Elia Viviani.
Konig for GC then? nice one.
Nieve I should think.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Are you being thick again? There's not much point having a TUE for a PED if you're not in the race, is there? It's like rigging a raffle you haven't bought a ticket for.Joelsim wrote:
You do realise that The_Boy was taking the p1ss don't you?
Just carry on being contrary, as usual.0 -
Have I ever said that? I think it's less than many make out though.Joelsim wrote:Do you still think that there is very little doping in cycling?
However, when a rider with a long history of dropping out of races which chest problems drops out of a race with chest problems it is exactly as it seems.
You on the other hand think it is some sort of doping conspiracy which you seem unable to explain and wouldn't make the slightest bit of sense if you tried. A doping strategy which revolves around not actually racing.Twitter: @RichN950 -
I'm not having a go at Froome. But CIRC suggests that 90% of all TUEs are for PE benefits. That is what I was saying...i.e. Cookson can't be blamed yet but if he doesn't do anything about it then he can be blamed in the future.
As for trying to explain things, everything I have said over the past few years has come up in this report i.e. still rife, still loopholes, passport makes it harder but also helps riders dope, miscrodosing still commonplace, testing largely pointless etc etc. You for one, have suggested on frequent occasions that I was/am wrong.0 -
Joelsim wrote:I'm not having a go at Froome. But CIRC suggests that 90% of all TUEs are for PE benefits. That is what I was saying...i.e. Cookson can't be blamed yet but if he doesn't do anything about it then he can be blamed in the future.
There are many shades of grey within cycling and the rules that govern.
Very little is as black and white as some would have us believe.
You are arguing from an ethical standpoint, not a legal one.
What are you suggesting Cookson must do, exactly?"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:Joelsim wrote:I'm not having a go at Froome. But CIRC suggests that 90% of all TUEs are for PE benefits. That is what I was saying...i.e. Cookson can't be blamed yet but if he doesn't do anything about it then he can be blamed in the future.
There are many shades of grey within cycling and the rules that govern.
Very little is as black and white as some would have us believe.
You are arguing from an ethical standpoint, not a legal one.
What are you suggesting Cookson must do, exactly?
Make it harder to get a TUE in whichever way he chooses is the best way. To at least make moves to improve the situation as you are right, it is a hugely grey area.0 -
Yet no statistics on TUE applications were published. It's heresay. A Dutch(?) newspaper asked many teams how many TUEs they had had that year and those that responded had barely any.Joelsim wrote:I'm not having a go at Froome. But CIRC suggests that 90% of all TUEs are for PE benefits. That is what I was saying...i.e. Cookson can't be blamed yet but if he doesn't do anything about it then he can be blamed in the future.
An individual's unsupported anecdote is very weak evidence. The report also gives credence to ozone therapy (quackery), motorized bikes (nonsense) and Gas6 (doesn't exist as a product). There are a couple of witnesses listed who are prone to repeat any old rumour they've heard as fact.
Someone needs to do a rerun of Brass Eye's Cake sketch. Make up a drug and see how long it takes the usual suspects to claim full knowledge of its use.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Stuyven out, Cav has picked up a virus too.0
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It is one rider* saying that they think 90% of TUEs are used for PED purposes.
Page 61 if you're interested.
Anecdote is not data.
I should have used this in the three hour methods class I just gave.
*One anonymous rider at that. It is possible to talk shit when hiding behind the veil of anonymity, that is why anonymised interview data is never to be treated as 'proof' of anything.Correlation is not causation.0 -
LOL.
Stage 1 now out of the race.......
(well, all bar 5kms of it)"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
