Miliband: Is he or Isn't he?

Manc33

Having a Zionist plant as the "opposition leader" is a sure way to keep that party from gaining power lol, assuming people have actually caught onto what Zionism is by now - a racist, demented mindset.

If you want to know what Zionists support - the dehumanization and killing of Palestinians.

Then because of Israel's incredible lobbying "influence", we have our news networks telling us only one side of that story all the time.

We're gonna end up with this twonk as the next Prime Minister, I can tell.

All he will do is ramp up the aid to Israel and bring in even more absurd laws to stop anyone criticizing Israel. That would be alright if we were living in Israel, but we live in the United Kingdom. :?

bdu98252

Saw a clip for a program last night where when a guy was asked who was to blame for his child being fat he replied that it was the fault of the government and the shops. Given this guy has no control over his own life and that of his children does it really matter what what the politicians do? The woman in the program only realised she was a twat when 8 of his children's teeth were removed at four because of poor parenting choices. Good luck any politician dealing with that objectively.

team47b

bdu98252 wrote:

Saw a clip for a program last night where when a guy was asked who was to blame for his child being fat he replied that it was the fault of the government and the shops. Given this guy has no control over his own life and that of his children does it really matter what what the politicians do? The woman in the program only realised she was a fool when 8 of his children's teeth were removed at four because of poor parenting choices. Good luck any politician dealing with that objectively.

It is the fault of the government, the man should have received an education which was of a level capable of giving him the skills to make better choices.

What are the government doing to 'control' the corporations selling products that are harmful to health, other than taking their money for funding, paid to turn a blind eye (bit of a Manc33ism there!)

pblakeney

I blame the Government as that is much simpler than accepting responsibility for my actions.

ballysmate

I'm sure Wiggle will be relieved to be off the hook for this one.

team47b

PBlakeney wrote:

I blame the Government as that is much simpler than accepting responsibility for my actions.

That, of course, is also true of some people, probably not you though

keef66

Manc33 wrote:

Having a Zionist plant as the "opposition leader" is a sure way to keep that party from gaining power lol, assuming people have actually caught onto what Zionism is by now - a racist, demented mindset.

If you want to know what Zionists support - the dehumanization and killing of Palestinians.

Then because of Israel's incredible lobbying "influence", we have our news networks telling us only one side of that story all the time.

We're gonna end up with this twonk as the next Prime Minister, I can tell.

All he will do is ramp up the aid to Israel and bring in even more absurd laws to stop anyone criticizing Israel. That would be alright if we were living in Israel, but we live in the United Kingdom. :?

You're starting to sound ever so slightly unhinged :shock:

chris_bass

Ballysmate wrote:

I'm sure Wiggle will be relieved to be off the hook for this one.

I'm not sure they are completely blameless, all that sugary haribo has probably lead to more than 4 teeth being removed to date.

pblakeney

Ballysmate wrote:

I'm sure Wiggle will be relieved to be off the hook for this one.

I was being sarcastic. Of course Wiggle are to blame.

mamba80

team47b wrote:

bdu98252 wrote:

Saw a clip for a program last night where when a guy was asked who was to blame for his child being fat he replied that it was the fault of the government and the shops. Given this guy has no control over his own life and that of his children does it really matter what what the politicians do? The woman in the program only realised she was a fool when 8 of his children's teeth were removed at four because of poor parenting choices. Good luck any politician dealing with that objectively.

It is the fault of the government, the man should have received an education which was of a level capable of giving him the skills to make better choices.

What are the government doing to 'control' the corporations selling products that are harmful to health, other than taking their money for funding, paid to turn a blind eye (bit of a Manc33ism there!)

I remember a programme once where (a charity) took some teenage mums and tried to get them to cook fresh healthy food, these girls had had a 11years of schooling and yet they knew nothing, they could nt even cook an egg, some couldnt even read the labelling !
their schooling had not taught them basic home economics (the tories stopped that being a compulsory subject years ago) and their parenting was sadly lacking.
Once up to speed, these girls could cook and make informed choices and they made the right ones, they could see they saved money and they and their kids were healthier.

You can only make choices if you have been informed, obviously there are exceptions, some people will never make the right ones, but getting rid of domestic science etc was a disaster.

that the food industry is still allowed to sell unhealthy products as "healthy" is a disgrace.

bdu98252

The doctors hit it on the head when they said it was parents fault and this includes families and friends. For example when did it become acceptable to be monstrously fat. When did it become acceptable to expect the schooling system to teach you everything in life.

I did home economics in school and can't remember a single thing I was taught other than that we made pizza one day and can only remember this because we had a food fight on the way home from school. If school is for the basics in life well good luck in getting the curriculum around that whilst allowing the top pupils to excel and not be dragged down to the lesson about tying your shoe laces and wiping your butt.

The government is only obliged to educate people. The choices they make for themselves after or during that education are their responsibility and no-one else's. The kid with no teeth in her head at four and wearing size 8 clothes has been drastically let down by her mother and anyone who witnessed the build up to this child cruelty without intervension.

mamba80

bdu98252 wrote:

The doctors hit it on the head when they said it was parents fault and this includes families and friends. For example when did it become acceptable to be monstrously fat. When did it become acceptable to expect the schooling system to teach you everything in life.

I did home economics in school and can't remember a single thing I was taught other than that we made pizza one day and can only remember this because we had a food fight on the way home from school. If school is for the basics in life well good luck in getting the curriculum around that whilst allowing the top pupils to excel and not be dragged down to the lesson about tying your shoe laces and wiping your butt.

The government is only obliged to educate people. The choices they make for themselves after or during that education are their responsibility and no-one else's. The kid with no teeth in her head at four and wearing size 8 clothes has been drastically let down by her mother and anyone who witnessed the build up to this child cruelty without intervention.

What we are doing now isn't working, so we need a new approach.....
You obviously don't like any sort of nanny state intervention, so lets roll back success in state intervention like.. the public smoking ban, esp now the tories have taken it into the car! drink drive laws, car seat belts and m/c helmets, let people decide what is right for them, their kids and society ? what right does the state have to tell us what we should do with our lives!!!!!

Allowing food manufactures to introduce large amounts of sugar into what many people would consider staple foods is stupid, 20g of sugar in a tin of tomato soup!

You may have dicked about at school, but I remember domestic science and quite a bit of what we were taught and we didn't make Pizza but we did learn about food safety, hygiene and nutrient, most importantly how to be economic with food and not waste it, these lessons were reinforced at home and guess what? my mum did home economics as part of her nurse training...dropped now.

anyway, I ve a pizza on the go and a bottle of red to finish, might polish it off with a cigar.

slowmart

mamba80 wrote:

bdu98252 wrote:

The doctors hit it on the head when they said it was parents fault and this includes families and friends. For example when did it become acceptable to be monstrously fat. When did it become acceptable to expect the schooling system to teach you everything in life.

I did home economics in school and can't remember a single thing I was taught other than that we made pizza one day and can only remember this because we had a food fight on the way home from school. If school is for the basics in life well good luck in getting the curriculum around that whilst allowing the top pupils to excel and not be dragged down to the lesson about tying your shoe laces and wiping your butt.

The government is only obliged to educate people. The choices they make for themselves after or during that education are their responsibility and no-one else's. The kid with no teeth in her head at four and wearing size 8 clothes has been drastically let down by her mother and anyone who witnessed the build up to this child cruelty without intervention.

What we are doing now isn't working, so we need a new approach.....
You obviously don't like any sort of nanny state intervention, so lets roll back success in state intervention like.. the public smoking ban, esp now the tories have taken it into the car! drink drive laws, car seat belts and m/c helmets, let people decide what is right for them, their kids and society ? what right does the state have to tell us what we should do with our lives!!!!!

Allowing food manufactures to introduce large amounts of sugar into what many people would consider staple foods is stupid, 20g of sugar in a tin of tomato soup!

You may have dicked about at school, but I remember domestic science and quite a bit of what we were taught and we didn't make Pizza but we did learn about food safety, hygiene and nutrient, most importantly how to be economic with food and not waste it, these lessons were reinforced at home and guess what? my mum did home economics as part of her nurse training...dropped now.

anyway, I ve a pizza on the go and a bottle of red to finish, might polish it off with a cigar.

No let the NHS service provide for those that aren't obese nor suffering from alcohol induced injuries and let Darwins Law of evolution take up the slack?

The nanny state needs balancing out into a more sustainable model not elongating and supporting the least productive in our society.

http://www.noo.org.uk/uploads/doc/vid_8 ... 1110MG.pdf

http://www.alcoholpolicy.net/files/alco ... _in_ae.pdf

Its unsustainable the current model and personal responsibility needs greater prominence.

pblakeney

mamba80 wrote:

....but we did learn about food safety, hygiene and nutrient, most importantly how to be economic with food and not waste it, these lessons were reinforced at home....

I have edited your post down to the important part. No thanks are required.

PS:- Sounds like a very pleasant dinner/evening. May I suggest a malt to go with the cigar?

StillGoing

Being ex military and police, I was a life long Tory voter. But, with the Conservatives wreaking their revenge on the police over the face slap they got for the Sheehey report (where Cameron was one of the advisors to the Government), I will never vote for them again. I will certainly never vote for Labour and the Liberals are so dangerously out of touch and desperate to be in office, they will side with anyone to form a coalition again, they should be locked up along with the Greens. Give me a party that will revise UK tax laws and stop believing in the principle of "trickle down", allow the British to be proud to be British again and not cow-tow to every minority in the mistaken belief that they might object, overhaul the benefits system and above all else, dump Russell Brand in some shark infested custard somewhere with Stephen Fry for company.

RideOnTime

philthy3 wrote:

Being ex military and police, I was a life long Tory voter. But, with the Conservatives wreaking their revenge on the police over the face slap they got for the Sheehey report (where Cameron was one of the advisors to the Government), I will never vote for them again. I will certainly never vote for Labour and the Liberals are so dangerously out of touch and desperate to be in office, they will side with anyone to form a coalition again, they should be locked up along with the Greens. Give me a party that will revise UK tax laws and stop believing in the principle of "trickle down", allow the British to be proud to be British again and not cow-tow to every minority in the mistaken belief that they might object, overhaul the benefits system and above all else, dump Russell Brand in some shark infested custard somewhere with Stephen Fry for company.

and that party is?...

actually thought... if Ed Miliband turned up at 10.00 pm with a bottle of wine where 10 people were assembled would that be a party? would his presence then not make it a party?

pblakeney

RideOnTime wrote:

actually thought... if Ed Miliband turned up at 10.00 pm with a bottle of wine where 10 people were assembled would that be a party? would his presence then not make it a party?

One bottle of wine for 10?
That would be a pretty poor party. Labour Party then.

slowmart

RideOnTime wrote:

philthy3 wrote:

Being ex military and police, I was a life long Tory voter. But, with the Conservatives wreaking their revenge on the police over the face slap they got for the Sheehey report (where Cameron was one of the advisors to the Government), I will never vote for them again. I will certainly never vote for Labour and the Liberals are so dangerously out of touch and desperate to be in office, they will side with anyone to form a coalition again, they should be locked up along with the Greens. Give me a party that will revise UK tax laws and stop believing in the principle of "trickle down", allow the British to be proud to be British again and not cow-tow to every minority in the mistaken belief that they might object, overhaul the benefits system and above all else, dump Russell Brand in some shark infested custard somewhere with Stephen Fry for company.

and that party is?...

actually thought... if Ed Miliband turned up at 10.00 pm with a bottle of wine where 10 people were assembled in Hampstead would that be a party? would his presence then not make it a party?

Edited for accuracy

ballysmate

On the question of a potential Labour/SNP coalition.

RideOnTime

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/07/ed-miliband-david-cameron-running-scared-tv-debates

RideOnTime

Ballysmate wrote:

On the question of a potential Labour/SNP coalition.

Manc33

He is unconvincing. The epitome of someone I wouldn't vote for - a Zionist puppet.

Zionist puppet Cameron, he's the one to vote for. :roll:

Zionism is a sick political ideology exported out of Israel. If you don't think it is sick, read the Talmud, the book these people follow. I won't type here the things it says, on a family forum.

"Leaders" all around the world have an allegiance to Israel, while working in this or that country's government. Its all very clever until you work it out, then you just realize how corrupt it is. "Dual-citizens" they call themselves, in other words overt spies. People with such incredible political clout that they don't even need to hide the fact that they are really working for Israel.

It would be nice if the public could just vote for someone and have them elected as opposed to only having the choice of Zionists. Not much choice really is it.

You might wonder why they have such global control already? Easy to answer - they have been doing it for centuries and figured out every human weakness centuries ago. Its really not that hard when you have new generations being born that know zero and can be influenced almost limitlessly.

The main trick pulled on us is how we always want to be right about everything and can't take other angles into account. Or when someone says "I'm a stockbroker" well no, they are a human being that got convinced the stock market means anything. You're always a human being. You don't even have a name in reality.

mr_goo

What is Millipedes policy on Defence? I sadly do not think it will be any better than the Camoron/Clegg debacle.

bianchimoon

Manc33 wrote:

He is unconvincing. The epitome of someone I wouldn't vote for - a Zionist puppet.

Zionist puppet Cameron, he's the one to vote for. :roll:

Zionism is a sick political ideology exported out of Israel. If you don't think it is sick, read the Talmud, the book these people follow. I won't type here the things it says, on a family forum.

"Leaders" all around the world have an allegiance to Israel, while working in this or that country's government. Its all very clever until you work it out, then you just realize how corrupt it is. "Dual-citizens" they call themselves, in other words overt spies. People with such incredible political clout that they don't even need to hide the fact that they are really working for Israel.

It would be nice if the public could just vote for someone and have them elected as opposed to only having the choice of Zionists. Not much choice really is it.

You might wonder why they have such global control already? Easy to answer - they have been doing it for centuries and figured out every human weakness centuries ago. Its really not that hard when you have new generations being born that know zero and can be influenced almost limitlessly.

The main trick pulled on us is how we always want to be right about everything and can't take other angles into account. Or when someone says "I'm a stockbroker" well no, they are a human being that got convinced the stock market means anything. You're always a human being. You don't even have a name in reality.

Manc, Manc.. stop it right now... you're starting to make sense

Manc33

I'll have to be careful I'll be getting ELected next.

RideOnTime

Are we serious here that Alex Salmond will have any significant influence over the next government? :shock:


I would of thought that with Cameron's background a mass debate with a few of his high-fluting colleagues would remind him of his time at school.

bianchimoon

RideOnTime wrote:

Are we serious here that Alex Salmond will have any significant influence over the next government? :shock:


I would have thought that with Cameron's background a mass debate with a few of his high-fluting colleagues would remind him of his time at school.

Quiet right, i'm very surprised cameron want's to miss out on a mass debate.

Wunnunda

The debate thing is all about the Tories trying to get Milliband and Farage to tie themselves in knots. Farage, for once, seems to be dodging a bullet. Milliband, on the other hand, has obliged beyond the Tories wildest dreams...

As for Salmond, who knows. As things stands Sturgeon is the SNP leader, not Salmond. For the purposes of the poster, though, having Milliband in Nicola Sturgeon's...er...breast pocket could misfire as a gambit?

chris_bass

RideOnTime wrote:

Are we serious here that Alex Salmond will have any significant influence over the next government? :shock:

I think they went for him on the picture because no one knows who Nicola Sturgeon is yet or what she looks like! Also, she doesn't have as many tops with jacket pockets to make the picture work.

bompington

No, it's because he still calls the shots in the SNP: and if he held the balance of power at Westminster (where he will almost certainly be leading the nats offically too) I think it's a dead cert that he would run rings round Milliband, so he'd be calling the shots for the whole of the UK pretty quickly. He did a very impressive job at keeping everyone onside while running a minority SNP government in Scotland for a while, but I suspect his tactic at Westminster will be to cause sheer bloody mayhem in order to manipulate the English into wanting rid of Scotland. Not exactly a hard target for him.

Meanwhile, the UK deficit gets bigger, and the Scottish deficit gets biggerer...