Charlie Hebdo
pblakeney
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Je suis Charlie.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.
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indeed... Vive charlie hebdoAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0
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oh so sadAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0
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“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it,” runs the famous formulation. When men and women have gone to their deaths for nothing more than what they have said, or drawn, there is only one side to be on. The hooded thugs trained their Kalashnikovs on free speech everywhere. If they are allowed to force a loss of nerve, conversation will become inhibited, and liberty of thought itself will falter too.Let's close our eyes and see what happens0
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“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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This is what I think he looks like.0 -
'Oh no... not them...'
I liked this one - obviously done with affection, and the pitch black humour is somehow appropriate given what they stood for.0 -
Je Suis Charlie
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No, I'm Charlie...and so is my wife.0
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Ballysmate wrote:No, I snort Charlie...and so does my wife.
FTFY
Within the right of free speech, can we eradicate the misogynistic, idiotic, barbarous, immoral, primative Muslim fundamentalists?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
pinarello001 wrote:Ballysmate wrote:No, I snort Charlie...and so does my wife.
FTFY
Within the right of free speech, can we eradicate the misogynistic, idiotic, barbarous, immoral, primative Muslim fundamentalists?
They have the right of free speech.
What they do not have, is the right to kill others for exercising that same right.
But then, they are playing to different rules.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Ballysmate wrote:No, I'm Charlie...and so is my wife.
Look, terrorists, Charlie's over there. My names Abdullah Al-Islam.0 -
It's brought out the best from the world's cartoonists in today's paper. Big own goal if the intention was to force the 'infidel' to respect them.0
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Do muslim's have a sense of humour?Cannondale Trail 6 - crap brakes!
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It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. He that accidently kills a believer must free one Muslim slave... He that kills a believer by design shall burn in Hell for ever. He shall incur the wrath of God, who will lay His curse on him and prepare for him a mighty scourge.
Quran 4:92-93; "Women," Dawood, p. 92
When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.
Quran 9:5; "Repentance," Dawood, p. 186
Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.
Quran 48:29, "Victory," Dawood, p. 514
Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.
Quran 4:34, "Women," Dawood, p. 83
[Forbidden to you are] married women, except those whom you own as slaves.
Quran 4:24, "Women," Dawood, p. 81
If these translations are accurate, how can any religion that exhorts its followers to slay unbelievers, condones slavery and treats half the worlds population as chattels be worth a w@nk?
If I formed a political party along those lines, I would quite rightly cause outrage and probably face arrest. So why is it acceptable from religion?
We have put up with this bollox for long enough.0 -
byke68 wrote:Do muslim's have a sense of humour?
Not if anyone insults the Quran, Allah or Prophet Mohammed. Sharia law states that it is ok to execute anyone who does so. Despite what some peace promoting passages in the Quran preach, the contradictory teachings which appear later in the book abrogate/supercede what is written earlier. That is what we saw enacted yesterday.
Je suis CharlieAlways be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
shooting dead doctors at abortion clinics, not allowing freedom of speech/expression 'Jerry Springer the opera' and countless more examples of how the 'western' religion is just as extreme at times.
Just be satisfied with being a human.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
bianchimoon wrote:shooting dead doctors at abortion clinics,0
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bompington wrote:bianchimoon wrote:shooting dead doctors at abortion clinics,
I would also like to know which religion promotes this. Is it the paramilitary wing of Opus Dei?Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
Unbelievable comment made by a muslim this morning on Radio 5 Live. He compared making fun at the Prophet Mohammed and Islam/Quran with doing the same to the Holocaust!! This is the typical defence that many Muslims keep putting up in a veiled defense of these atrocities.
Fact the Holocaust was an event in history. It was a crime against humanity.
Fact the Quran is a book. A work of fiction, ideological rant and rhetoric, promoting crimes against humanity.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.0 -
bompington wrote:bianchimoon wrote:shooting dead doctors at abortion clinics,
Does it have to be in a book if it's done in the name of religion? end result is the same
Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)
‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Koran or Bible.
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Ballysmate wrote:Koran or Bible.
Both BolloxAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Ballysmate wrote:If these translations are accurate, how can any religion that exhorts its followers to slay unbelievers, condones slavery and treats half the worlds population as chattels be worth a w@nk?
If I formed a political party along those lines, I would quite rightly cause outrage and probably face arrest. So why is it acceptable from religion?
We have put up with this bollox for long enough.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Koran from about the same time that slavery was common in Christian lands indeed it was a major part of their economy as late as 1700's? Not too far from me there is a farmhouse which was owned by someone involved in slavery back in the day, IIRC the farm was used to store slaves at one point if the stories are true, and they found skulls from slaves used in the building as infill/backfill and even as non-loadbearing bricks within the fabric of the buildings. Then round the coast a bit in Cumbria there is Whitehaven the second most important port back in the day as it was the main port involved in slave trade/triangle. Off topic though but those events were a damn site closer in time than when the Quran was written.
Also, if you want I am sure there is mention of slavery in the religious texts of most main religions that date from times long past. I wonder how many Muslims still consider slavery acceptable even though it seems to say it is in their religious texts?
IIRC Britain has a bit of an issue with slavery right now too. Are we as bad as Muslims too for allowing it to happen?
As far as I am concerned Muslims are just like other religions in that they select the bits of their religious texts that they wish to follow and believe. You want slavery pick those bits, if not then don;t. Same applies for other things like adultery, homosexuality and I am sure some even have things to say about disabled, well wouldn;t surprise me at all. I am a committed atheist but I see good and bad in all religions. Take a look at Alain de Botton;s book called Religion for Atheists, worth a read if you are religious or atheist I think.0 -
'Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms. “Respect for religion" has become a code phrase meaning "fear of religion." Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect.' Salman Rushdie this morning.
Killing in the name of ghosts and wizards. It’s the fuxking 21st century and humanity still believes in and murders because of organised religion. Jesus, Allah, that half man half elephant thing and Harry Potter – IT’S ALL THE SAME!!!*
I feel really sad when I cycle past churches on a Sunday morning and see all these young folk going up the steps. What a waste.
*I realise nobody has died because of the specky git…but it’s only a matter of time.0 -
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