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RichN95 wrote:
When I was a little boy Swindon had the Oasis which had waterslides and a wave machine. That was pretty bloody mystical. Roubaix, on the other hand, is Lille's armpit.disgruntledgoat wrote:Have you ever been to Roubaix? It's about as mystical as Swindon.
Not only did Swindon have the Oasis, but it was also XTC's hometown. And it had the magic roundabout!0 -
Ive clearly touched a nerve here.
Peterborough? Wolverhampton?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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God the Oasis. We used to view that as a childhood Mecca for birthday parties and I was 15 miles the "wrong" side of Oxford. And don't have a go at Wolverhampton. Its got, erm, well Molineux. Which is more than enough...RichN95 wrote:
When I was a little boy Swindon had the Oasis which had waterslides and a wave machine. That was pretty bloody mystical. Roubaix, on the other hand, is Lille's armpit.disgruntledgoat wrote:Have you ever been to Roubaix? It's about as mystical as Swindon.http://www.georgesfoundation.org
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Roubaix makes Teeside look classy. Was scared to leave my car there when I rid the sportiveeating parmos since 1981
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Last time I was there, I saw 2 men come to blows over the last big can of Hoegaarden in a night shop."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Swindon Oasis - still going strong but a bit crumbly round the edges these days. My kids absolutely love it though - still as much fun as it always was.You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
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disgruntledgoat wrote:RichN95 wrote:
When I was a little boy Swindon had the Oasis which had waterslides and a wave machine. That was pretty bloody mystical. Roubaix, on the other hand, is Lille's armpit.disgruntledgoat wrote:Have you ever been to Roubaix? It's about as mystical as Swindon.
Lille, of course, being the Nord's armpit, which is France's armpit. Grim.
I was going to post this exact sentence (and I've lived in Lille)0 -
Isn't Roubaix twinned with Bradford?M.Rushton0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Last time I was there, I saw 2 men come to blows over the last big can of Hoegaarden in a night shop.
At least it wasn't a can of supereating parmos since 1981
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I was at the Oasis for a concert on Friday night, now very shabby and awful acoustics. About as modernised as the Roubaix velodrome appears to be. Though with less perceived romantic charm.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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OT - If I'm not mistaken that concert was Paul Weller was it not?0
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Would certainly explain the terrible acoustics...Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0
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It was Weller, yes.
Musical tastes aside, the sound was harsh and didn't resound well. The bar facilities were poor and the decor shabby.
Handy for me though as my brother lives fairly closeby.
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Did I read that he has special dispensation from UCI to ride TdY for his new teamTeam My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0
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And the loons on the asylum are getting their knickers in a twist about how it prooves that Wiggo is Lance MK2, Cookson is Pat/Hein etc. Seems entirely sensible letting the man have a farewell tour in front of his home crowd and it's not as if he's out of the testing pool.
Changing the subject he's supposedly going to be riding some of the Tour series, I hope he makes it to Peterborough.0 -
At least we got to see the bands in a serious race.
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hammerite wrote:The_Boy wrote:Did I read that he has special dispensation from UCI to ride TdY for his new team
Apparently yes.
If he wins it ll be slightly unsavoury but if he rides in support (mind you he is pretty big support), its not thaaat at bad...
Plus, I know people don't like it, but deal with it, it's true, Wiggins is a massive draw to the average non cycling British punter. Frankly we could have the big 4 there and most people wouldn't careWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:
Can anyone apart from Petacchi really complain though?
And the organisers of the ToB, obvs.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
ddraver wrote:hammerite wrote:The_Boy wrote:Did I read that he has special dispensation from UCI to ride TdY for his new team
Apparently yes.
If he wins it ll be slightly unsavoury but if he rides in support (mind you he is pretty big support), its not thaaat at bad...
Plus, I know people don't like it, but deal with it, it's true, Wiggins is a massive draw to the average non cycling British punter. Frankly we could have the big 4 there and most people wouldn't care
Who wants the average British punter watching the race? No doubt giving Phil & Paul truisms like the 10km a minute rule during the Paris Roubaix finale.
with 23km to go and all to play for 'who's in the break?' or 'who's winning' or, the worst of all ' who's wearing the yellow jersey'?
P!ss off.
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That kind of reinforces every stereotype about the snobbish, pretentious, cycling fan. But I agree with it.0
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With characters like Wiggins and Froome, a Steve Jobs/Spielberg would bridge the divide with narrative. Area managers, with their clipboards and excel stats, fall short.Milton50 wrote:That kind of reinforces every stereotype about the snobbish, pretentious, cycling fan. But I agree with it....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
The difference with Petacchi was he had an existing contract which he terminated by 'retiring', while Wiggins's contract with Sky will have finished its full term. The UCI would have to give him dispensation to join a new team because to not do so would probably be in contravention of EU employment law.The_Boy wrote:ddraver wrote:
Can anyone apart from Petacchi really complain though?
And the organisers of the ToB, obvs.Twitter: @RichN950 -
CCalculus wrote:RichN95 wrote:The UCI would have to give him dispensation to join a new team because to not do so would probably be in contravention of EU employment law.
Why would it be in contravention of EU employment law?
His contract with Sky would have ended. How can you then prevent him from riding for another team when he's out of contract? Jean-Marc Bosman fixed that one 15 years ago. Eventually.0 -
Just like Andy says. In football out of contract players - "free agents" - can be signed outside the transfer window.andyp wrote:CCalculus wrote:RichN95 wrote:The UCI would have to give him dispensation to join a new team because to not do so would probably be in contravention of EU employment law.
Why would it be in contravention of EU employment law?
His contract with Sky would have ended. How can you then prevent him from riding for another team when he's out of contract? Jean-Marc Bosman fixed that one 15 years ago. Eventually.
The actual UCI dispensation was to allow him to sign a shorter than usual contract - but there's plenty of precedent for that (usually retiring classics specialists).Twitter: @RichN950 -
You mean, Like the average USA punter that Phil & Paul have talked to for years.Rick Chasey wrote:
Who wants the average British punter watching the race? No doubt giving Phil & Paul truisms like the 10km a minute rule during the Paris Roubaix finale.
with 23km to go and all to play for 'who's in the break?' or 'who's winning' or, the worst of all ' who's wearing the yellow jersey'?
P!ss off.
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RichN95 wrote:Just like Andy says. In football out of contract players - "free agents" - can be signed outside the transfer window.
Free agents (in football) can be signed outside the transfer window if they were a free agent before the closure of the previous transfer window. They cannot sign outside of a transfer window if their contract expires while the window is closed (e.g. Joe Yoffe http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24209800). Therefore the FIFA regulations are essentially the same as the UCI's. Wiggins cannot sign outside of the transfer period (1-25 June) because his Sky contract expires when the window is closed (April).
At first glance you could still argue that the UCI transfer period contravenes Article 45 of the TFEU ('Freedom of movement'). Yet case law has established that limitations may be placed upon freedom of movement if there are legitimate sporting reasons to do so e.g. Lehtonen (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 76:EN:HTML).
So the real question is whether there are legitimate reasons for the existence of the transfer period for Continental teams. That said, I doubt the UCI had EU employment law in mind when they decided to give Wiggins special dispensation. They were probably more concerned with ensuring that the Tour de Yorkshire received as much publicity as possible.RichN95 wrote:The actual UCI dispensation was to allow him to sign a shorter than usual contract - but there's plenty of precedent for that (usually retiring classics specialists).
The relevant issue was whether Wiggins could transfer from Sky to Team Wiggins before the transfer period commenced. The length of the contract wasn't relevant.0 -
ddraver wrote:hammerite wrote:The_Boy wrote:Did I read that he has special dispensation from UCI to ride TdY for his new team
Apparently yes.
If he wins it ll be slightly unsavoury but if he rides in support (mind you he is pretty big support), its not thaaat at bad...
Plus, I know people don't like it, but deal with it, it's true, Wiggins is a massive draw to the average non cycling British punter. Frankly we could have the big 4 there and most people wouldn't care
And based on that I reckon ASO have probably done as much to put a case forward in Wiggo's favour as any one else.0
