Richmond Park - well that was interesting
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It just reflects the selfish egotistical nature of the city really.0
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FTFYDavidJB wrote:It just reflects the selfish egotistical nature of some people really.0 -
I read somewhere recently that Boris bikes are numbered. Of all the complaints about them breaking laws not one has quoted the number on the bike.marcusjb wrote:mcvw wrote:
I'd be in favour of cyclists having 'registrations' AND insurance (I know some already do!) - making them more accountable for their actions.
Yep, brilliant idea; that scheme works so well with motorists.0 -
I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?Big Red, Blue, Pete, Bill & Doug0
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VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
To be fair, I often whinge about the hills when I am in there - especially if I am doing clockwise laps on a longer fixed gear and by about the 4th lap things are going a bit blurry.0 -
marcusjb wrote:VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
To be fair, I often whinge about the hills when I am in there - especially if I am doing clockwise laps on a longer fixed gear and by about the 4th lap things are going a bit blurry.
It's only about 300m over 4 laps????Big Red, Blue, Pete, Bill & Doug0 -
VmanF3 wrote:marcusjb wrote:VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
To be fair, I often whinge about the hills when I am in there - especially if I am doing clockwise laps on a longer fixed gear and by about the 4th lap things are going a bit blurry.
It's only about 300m over 4 laps????
I'm only a little lad (59Kg) and hauling a 78 inch (about as tall as I go) up Broomfield is pretty tough after a few laps. Fine if I am on my usual 67, but then I half kill myself on the flats, so I am usually on the taller gear, though I rarely do clockwise laps.0 -
Veronese68 wrote:Don't get me wrong I love the park and living so close to it, but it would be best if everybody else would f@#& off out and leave it for me. ;-)
Great idea, as long as I can draft behind you all the way round !!!
I use the park a fair bit too, but do my utmost to miss the busy times. There's no easy answer to solve the pedestrian/cyclist/motorist tensions, all three groups have a right to use the park and need to find a way to co-exist.0 -
What is richmond park? it sounds like cycling hell :shock:0
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Richmond Park. Box Hill.
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Ha, says the man that was resting at the cafe.VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
I ride in Richmond Park about three times a week, and I've never stopped for a rest yet.
I notice all you wusses go round anti-clockwise though. Soft, I tellya, you're all soft...Is the gorilla tired yet?0 -
ChrisAOnABike wrote:
Ha, says the man that was resting at the cafe.VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
I ride in Richmond Park about three times a week, and I've never stopped for a rest yet.
I notice all you wusses go round anti-clockwise though. Soft, I tellya, you're all soft...
Not resting, packing up to go home....clockwise for me every time, none of that 'wrong way round' business!!
Big Red, Blue, Pete, Bill & Doug0 -
What, you drive to the park? :shock:VmanF3 wrote:ChrisAOnABike wrote:
Ha, says the man that was resting at the cafe.VmanF3 wrote:outside Pembroke Lodge cafe
I ride in Richmond Park about three times a week, and I've never stopped for a rest yet.
I notice all you wusses go round anti-clockwise though. Soft, I tellya, you're all soft...
Not resting, packing up to go home....clockwise for me every time, none of that 'wrong way round' business!!
Wusses, I say, wusses
Though good to hear of another clockwise guy.
Is the gorilla tired yet?0 -
Nobody has to go to the Roebuck, but it seems rude not to.ChrisAOnABike wrote:
Ha, says the man that was resting at the cafe.VmanF3 wrote:I was cycling in Richmond Park the other day and overheard a conversation between two fellows outside Pembroke Lodge cafe, I could not believe my ears as they were complaining about the hills in the park being quite tough. What hills in the park? Are these the same folk that think Box Hill is the English equivalent to the Alp d'Huez?
I ride in Richmond Park about three times a week, and I've never stopped for a rest yet.
I notice all you wusses go round anti-clockwise though. Soft, I tellya, you're all soft...0 -
Exactly. Unfortunately each group has its share of fools and they are the ones that cause the problems.Kingstonian wrote:Veronese68 wrote:Don't get me wrong I love the park and living so close to it, but it would be best if everybody else would f@#& off out and leave it for me. ;-)
Great idea, as long as I can draft behind you all the way round !!!
I use the park a fair bit too, but do my utmost to miss the busy times. There's no easy answer to solve the pedestrian/cyclist/motorist tensions, all three groups have a right to use the park and need to find a way to co-exist.0 -
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FTFYDavidJB wrote:It just reflects the selfish egotistical nature of some people really.
Yeah and those people live in London 0 -
I ride in RP daily and at weekends and agree with the OP that it is getting worse during peak times, flying laps and chain gangs should be early or late.
Over the summer almost every weekend I saw an ambulance come into the park, usually either on the zig-zag or on the stretch from Robin Hood to Roehampton gate (narrow lane for over taking, I was almost wiped on Saturday (although car driver did raise his hand in apology so felt much better:))
Would be interested to go to a meeting about it..anyone got details?0 -
A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.0 -
Here you go:kingtubby wrote:Would be interested to go to a meeting about it..anyone got details?I wanted to let you know about an important public meeting I am arranging for Wednesday, December 17th, at the Duke St Church in Richmond. The topic will be cycling - and in particular the rising tensions between cyclists, motorists and pedestrians in Richmond Park.
It will be an open forum, and the purpose is simply to explore solutions to a problem that is raised with me by constituents on a near daily basis. I hope that by crowd-sourcing the problem, interesting and valuable solutions will be offered up, and to that end, I warmly invite you to come along and contribute.
I will chair the meeting, and have assembled a panel of representatives from Richmond and Kingston Councils, the Royal parks, and the police.
Event details:
Date: Wednesday 17th December - 7:30pm
Location: Duke Street Church, Quadrant Rd (off the Green), Richmond, TW9 1DH
I very much hope to see you there,
Best wishes,
Zac Goldsmith
MP for Richmond Park and North Kingston0 -
Thanks, will attend0
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Surrey Commuter wrote:A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.
It was I who drove there on this occasion, I live in the Chilterns, so could have ridden there or even taken the train, but as I was meeting friends and we were then going on elsewhere afterwards and parking is free, why shouldn't I?
Yet another cyclist who gets upset with someone driving - now just what is that all about?Big Red, Blue, Pete, Bill & Doug0 -
Surrey Commuter wrote:A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.
As the OP I'd suggest that you re-read what I said. It was nothing to do with the volume of people, although that was a surprise - it was the awful behaviour of most of them!Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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lostboysaint wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.
As the OP I'd suggest that you re-read what I said. It was nothing to do with the volume of people, although that was a surprise - it was the awful behaviour of most of them!
I disagree - the main problem is the sheer volume of people who will be faster or slower than you so you get in their way or they get in yours so making it annoying and dangerous.0 -
VmanF3 wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.
It was I who drove there on this occasion, I live in the Chilterns, so could have ridden there or even taken the train, but as I was meeting friends and we were then going on elsewhere afterwards and parking is free, why shouldn't I?
Yet another cyclist who gets upset with someone driving - now just what is that all about?
you would have to agree that as a general rule driving to RP for a bike ride is bizarre - they can't all have your exceptional circumstances0 -
I can't be the only one who hasn't had any problems with drivers or other cyclists in RP?
I get that it's busier on a weekend and it's annoying when drivers don't signal at the roundabouts, but other than that...0 -
Surrey Commuter wrote:VmanF3 wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:A delicious irony bout this thread being full of people complaining about too many people cycling around RP as it ruins their enjoyment of cycling around RP, including a chap who drives there!!!!
The number of people will have a natural limiting effect. For me the problem is behaviour of cyclists in particular Dynamos using it as a training track and as for doing so through the middle it defied belief.
As has been suggested the solution is to get up earlier as in the mornings it is truly beautiful.
It was I who drove there on this occasion, I live in the Chilterns, so could have ridden there or even taken the train, but as I was meeting friends and we were then going on elsewhere afterwards and parking is free, why shouldn't I?
Yet another cyclist who gets upset with someone driving - now just what is that all about?
you would have to agree that as a general rule driving to RP for a bike ride is bizarre - they can't all have your exceptional circumstances
Well, I don't really agree. Driving anywhere for a ride is perfectly acceptable, otherwise my riding area would be severely restricted. I don't really have a problem with it - plenty people I know have driven to the massive mountain of Box Hill because the sheer effort of climbing such a behemoth would render them useless to cycle anywhere once they've hit the summit. Big Red, Blue, Pete, Bill & Doug0 -
If you drove to the middle of nowhere to tackle a beast such as Box Hill then I understand but we are people travelling by car and bike to cycle around an urban park and then being disappointed to find it overcrowded.
You should go at night it is closed to traffic (you have to park outside) so you will only encounter other cyclists some with no lights and some with lights so bright they blind you for 5 mins. Oh and ninjas come from far and wide to run, walk the dog and in extreme cases ski, but all wear very dark clothing.0 -
^ don't forget the massive 4-legged lumps of meat with antlers - they can make things fun in the dark!0
