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Cody

cooldad wrote:

Angus Young wrote:

Cody wrote:

So drinking alcahol doesn't lead to rape and murder aswell? Look around you, look at the statistics.

Google Boko Haram Cody

They don't represent the real meaning of submission to the almighty creator, they represent an ideology which doesn't promote tolerance, peace and justice. It's an extreme form of what some people on here and out there perceive to be a religion or a religious way of life.

Cody

RevellRider wrote:

Cody wrote:

Religion really interests me because it explains the origin of the universe.

It explains one belief to the beginning of the universe. If I wrote a book saying I believed the universe began when a space monster got drunk and puked up existence, it doesn't make it any more right than the Bible stating that God created everything in 6 days and chilled on the 7th.

What I enjoy about science is the constant questioning 'Why?'

He's not god if he, chilled on the 7th. Sleep neither slumber overtakes him. There are some undisputed facts in all 4 known to man revelations regarding science, but it's not you who just questions why, it's these eminent scientists who are asking why, 'why'? is it in the books given to illterate men hundreds of years ago, and not given to the average laymen today or to the greeks who tried working it out 3000 years ago. Questions modern science can't answer, except the evidence which science currently has, points out to suggests the presence of a magnificent being in the universe.

Angus Young

Cody wrote:

[Questions modern science can't answer, except the evidence which science currently has, points out to suggests the presence of a magnificent being in the universe.

You clearly know fcuk all about science.

Cody

welshkev wrote:

I can honestly say Cody that when I've been drunk ive never attempted to rape or kill anyone!

You are 1 deluded little boy.

Have you ever been drunk Cody? I honestly can't see how you can be so opinionated about things you don't have first clue about!

There was a guy, blak guy in his 40s who I saw in the toilets with a blond young white woman at a seminar, moaning and groaning in the toilet cubicle, obviously having it off, and i was talking to her daughter who had just appeared on the x factor show and, he finished his session in the toilets and came sat next to me. Then he put his hand on the daughters lap and played with her hair and called her beautiful and tempting. When I saw what was in his hand, I knew why .. bottle, small bottle of ginn and tonic.

welshkev

Cody wrote:

welshkev wrote:

I can honestly say Cody that when I've been drunk ive never attempted to rape or kill anyone!

You are 1 deluded little boy.

Have you ever been drunk Cody? I honestly can't see how you can be so opinionated about things you don't have first clue about!

There was a guy, blak guy in his 40s who I saw in the toilets with a blond young white woman at a seminar, moaning and groaning in the toilet cubicle, obviously having it off, and i was talking to her daughter who had just appeared on the x factor show and, he finished his session in the toilets and came sat next to me. Then he put his hand on the daughters lap and played with her hair and called her beautiful and tempting. When I saw what was in his hand, I knew why .. bottle, small bottle of ginn and tonic.

You're an idiot

cooldad

Nah, as usual he's just making sh1t up.

Just without much imagination.

The dudes who wrote his favourite book had a lot more.

RevellRider

Cody wrote:

Questions modern science can't answer, except the evidence which science currently has, points out to suggests the presence of a magnificent being in the universe.

Show me a peer reviewed piece of evidence and quoting sources that actual scientist have found a magnificent being (outside our lord himself, Sheepsteeth) exists.

Cody

Taken from a book I read in the past I think by Dr Maurice Bucaille a eminent Muslim French surgeon and scientist, his books upstairs on my bookshelf somewhere, It is just one basic example I could find. However I could go on and on, and if you want me to I will, I have never given up. I'm not on here to debate religion or the misinterpretation and misunderstanding of religious texts by some people on here. But I'm happy to share what I know in response to some of your questions.

There are only two ways of looking at the Universe. Either it just happened or an intelligent being is responsible for it. Now, chance does not produce design or order. It's logic, if you believe in the big bang on earth and try to produce it's effect in an atmosphere with no oxygen, it will just create clutter right? What sort of a Universe do we see? Is it one of order? We'll look at two of the most familiar objects - the sun and then the human body. The sun is a revolving sphere blowing gases a million times larger than the earth. The sun is like an atomic furnace, producing heat at the core of 35 million degrees Fahrenheit, and a temperature of 11 thousand degrees at its surface. The sun is 93 million miles from the earth. If it were 120 million miles, the earth would be frozen solid. However, if the distance were 60 million miles, the earth's surface would be like a furnace. The location of the sun, and the delicate balance of the earth's atmosphere makes it possible for the sun's energy to raise millions of tons of water from the oceans, vaporize and demineralize them, collect the vapors into clouds and then move the clouds thousands of miles by the energy of the wind, which is also produced the the energy of the sun, condense the vapors and then scatter them on dry land, thus making life possible. The energy of the sun activates the germ of life and the seed, causing it to grow. The green leaf, with its chlorophyll would not be possible without the energy of the sun. Apparently Coal is but the stored up energy of the s6n and fossilized remains of plant life, but this hasn't always been proven.

Now our second example. The human body contains 206 bones. Each bone is efficiently constructed to give maximum strength. Each bone is hollow and manufactures marrow. Each cubic meter of the body contains about 5 million red blood cells and between 5 thousand and 10 thousand white cells. The body produces 2 million blood cells a second to replace those damaged in circulation. There are I hundred thousand miles of blood vessels and the blood is capable of flowing through the entire circulatory system in only 26 seconds. In a normal lifetime, the heart beats more than 2 billion times, pumping enough blood to fill a large skyscraper. Your brain can do what a computer the size of the Empire State Building could not accomplish. To have the power of your brain, this computer would need the power of a Niagara Falls. Now, these are but 2 of many examples of design and order. To believe that the Universe is the product of an intelligent being is a reasonable conclusion. Really, the more that we learn about the Universe, the greater emphasis is placed upon how each part influences the other. The scientific method assumes that this is an orderly Universe. So whether specific examples are considered or whether the Universe is regarded in a general sense, the presence of order is indicated. Again, the question, which is more reasonable, chance or God?

Angus Young

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEl9kVl ... freload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsC4_z ... freload=10

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwq--Q ... freload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbsGYRA ... freload=10

There are many more, if you cared to look.

cooldad

We back on this sh1t again?

Cody can't comprehend things so godditit.

welshkev

I think Stephen fry puts it quite well:

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/tv-h ... next300115

cooldad

welshkev wrote:

I think Stephen fry puts it quite well:

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/tv-h ... next300115

A sensible answer and Gay Star News?

You do realise that you will be responsible for Cody's death when his head explodes?

Angus Young

Love the look on Gay Byrne's face. Kerpowwww!

welshkev

cooldad wrote:

welshkev wrote:

I think Stephen fry puts it quite well:

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/tv-h ... next300115

A sensible answer and Gay Star News?

You do realise that you will be responsible for Cody's death when his head explodes?

Ha ha, yeah I did think he'd have a comment about the fact he's gay and ignoring everything else!

RevellRider

Cody wrote:

blah blah blah I repeat what I was taught parrot fashion

Of the all the above you put, did any of it answer my question? I asked for peer reviewed and backed up by sources proof of a supreme being, not drivel. I'm not trying to debate religion, I'm trying to talk science.

cooldad

RevellRider wrote:

Cody wrote:

blah blah blah I repeat what I was taught parrot fashion

Of the all the above you put, did any of it answer my question? I asked for peer reviewed and backed up by sources proof of a supreme being, not drivel. I'm not trying to debate religion, I'm trying to talk science.

I think Cody struggles with differentiating science and drivel.

Cody wrote:

Taken from a book I read in the past I think by Dr Maurice Bucaille a eminent Muslim French surgeon and scientist,

Cody

RevellRider wrote:

Cody wrote:

blah blah blah I repeat what I was taught parrot fashion

Of the all the above you put, did any of it answer my question? I asked for peer reviewed and backed up by sources proof of a supreme being, not drivel. I'm not trying to debate religion, I'm trying to talk science.

God is science, science without the equasion of god is meaningless or science without the equasion of balance in the universe is nothing but a mere conjecture. You ask these astranouts, they'll tell ya their teachers were dumbest sh*ts on earth, because when they went in to the universe, they knew deep down this could not have been 'CHANCE'. The design of our universe is so sophisticated. The sources are on the internet. We don't need sources, use ya head, this ain't school exams, this is real life know for your self type of knowledge. It's called observing. You just gonna sit there and let literate people tell you we came from monkeys and apes, what about the missing links in the human development chain, where are those apes who were fully upright, not half or semi.

And why were some vegetarians and some meat eaters, and why do we have 2 types of teeth for meat and veg when they only had one type of tooth. Eating meat by 'CHANCE' doesn't cause canine teeth to grow if you're a vegetarian? does this mean we had both kinds of teeth from day one? or if not, Were some born meat eating killers and others not? who diffrentiated the two from being a killer meat eater and a soft vegetarian, or were their chromosomes and dna different? science can't this explain this stuff. Religion doesn't bother with evolution because it's irrelevant to what our purpose is. Science has no purpose, it's about finding out stuff, if they can't figure out there is a god who did all this, then why research. They can't even suss that out? then that tells you one thing, the people are stupid and know deep down god exists, they just refuse to acknowledge it.

I'm just giving you the facts, hard facts and nothing but the truth. You explain the big bang with an appropriate source, don't tell me chance did it, because I just explained it creates clutter and drifts forever aimlessly in to any direction of the atmosphere. My source is God, and I have over a thousands sources on internet and from books which I can back those facts from. God created the universe, created the first atom which caused a big bang and god is steadily expanding it, it won't burst like some weirdos are saying, it's called judgement day when everything will diminish and mankind will stand forth and bear witness all that they did and believed in.

It's easy, science and religion. Life is the exam, just pass it with all the evidence we got. What evidence? whatever's been created, study it. There's a special atom or cell in the body behind the heart, which carries information or the amount of info equivalent to 1000 libraries worth of books. chance or intelligent design? Doing of chance or big bang or doing of a clever thought and perfect thought pattern?

welshkev

Blah blah blah.

How many astronauts have you ever spoken to btw?

Plus,

Were there dinosaurs?

Antm81

If everything is by design from some higher being how do you explain that we can breed new types of plants or create new breeds of animal. This is part of how things evolve, the mixing of the gene pool. Also how come people and animals for example an be born with both male and female genetalia if it's all being controlled?

Again you keep asking where the proof of evolution is, yet where is your proof that there is a higher being? You say we didn't evolve from apes as there is no species between us showing this evolution, what about the remains of earlier humans that have been found showing these stages?

As you still haven't answered it either, what about dinosaurs?

Angus Young

Cody wrote:

You just gonna sit there and let literate people tell you we came from monkeys and apes, what about the missing links in the human development chain, where are those apes who were fully upright, not half or semi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_LY-LZ ... freload=10

Cody wrote:

I'm just giving you the facts, hard facts and nothing but the truth. My source is God, and I have over a thousands sources on internet and from books which I can back those facts from.

Not one thing you've said is even remotely 'factual'.

cooldad

Since when has Cody ever actually answered a question with an actual answer?

He seems to think he does, but I suspect that's the only thinking he does.

Briggo

Yes, we're back on this bullsh*t.

Much better than the diary of Cody and his eating habits.

neilus

Never understood this 'look at the miraculous order we see all around us, it can only have been deliberately made so'. Its like I say, 'I have a car lot with 10 cars from the 1950s that work perfectly'. And someone says, 'like hell you have. Are you telling me, of all the millions of cars produced in the 50s, you just happen to have picked the 10 that still work?' to which the obvious answer is 'well those that didnt work, that had flawed technology, poor build quality, cheap materials are not here to tell their story, precisely for those reasons'...
Flora that is incompatiable with climate becomes extinct; what reamins IS compatiable = 'order'
Fauna that cannot be sustained by available flora becomes extinct; what remains CAN be sustained = 'order'
And so on ...
Even pretty smart apologists like William Lane Craig wheel out this 'Fine Tuning' arguament, isnt it obvious that Natural Selection IS the fine tuning agent...or am I missing something?

JBA

Cody wrote:

ramble, ramble, ramble...Science has no purpose, ... ramble, ramble, ramble

Righty ho. That's that cleared up then.

Tell me, Cody, in this heaven you believe in how old are the people (or their spirits or souls or whatever)?
If someone dies at the age of 30 are they 30 in heaven?
What about still-born babies and really old people?

cooldad

JBA wrote:

Cody wrote:

ramble, ramble, ramble...Science has no purpose, ... ramble, ramble, ramble

Righty ho. That's that cleared up then.

Tell me, Cody, in this heaven you believe in how old are the people (or their spirits or souls or whatever)?
If someone dies at the age of 30 are they 30 in heaven?
What about still-born babies and really old people?

And are dead people still dead, or just animated rotten corpses?

Cody

The people of heaven will be the age of Jesus when he descended to the heavens when the Roman Jewish Elite tried to kill him. He didn't die and was never crucified, he was raised to heaven. The age is 33 years old. The people of heaven will have the beauty of prophet Joseph who had half of the worlds beauty, and the people of heaven will be the height of Adam who was 50-60 cubic metres in height according to the final revelation, which is as tall as a small block of flats. The tombs of Adam and Eve are in Syria or somewhere in the middle east as I'm led to believe based on some research. They're very very long. However we do know that the tombs of all the other prophets are in the tomb of the patriarchs in Jerusalem and the tomb of Prophet Muhammad is in Medina, and we also know which science won't ever be able to explain with even the most advanced technology, is that the bodies of prophets do not deteriorate over time or decay like normal humans do. This is self explanatory really, if you're a prophet appointed by god and live according to gods laws and teach people about his oneness and do not miss a prayer or falter in behaviour and character and follow gods laws as it was in the beginning or according to the final revelation and reach the highest level of spirituality which is the innate nature of the original man, then god chooses to preserve whom he wills as a sign unto man.

Nobody can enter heaven until the day of judgement when justice is served. Everyone remains in their graves which is either a pit from the hell fire or a window and smell from heaven. The souls of people are in the graves until the day of judgement.

Prophet abraham looks after all new born babies who die in their infancy or at birth, they are raised in heaven.

Anyway, I'm in the mood for riding my bike today, weathers improved a lil, bit icy out there and a bit cold, just been to car boot to get some stuff. Gonna have something to eat and then go for a ride. Only a short ride, about 30 mins or so. Usual route I think.

Briggo

Cubic meters in height?

Blimey.

Antm81

Dinosaurs?

Answer the question

Cody

Antm81 wrote:

Dinosaurs?

Answer the question

I told you before, religion doesn't interfere with the subject. I could tell you off the top of my head, they existed for a reason, everything god created serves a purpose. Everything finds its reason in it's own way and understanding. Religious texts don't talk about animals in such a way. There's things religion doesn't mention, however scriptures only state the obvious and doesn't get involved with matters of no concern. Yes the dinosaurs existed, maybe they lived at the time of giant humans, maybe not.

Below is a verse from the final revelation;

And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth.’ They said: ‘Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You.’ He (Allah) said: ‘I know that which you do not know’”

[al-Baqarah 2:30].

To sum up: Islam does not deny that these creatures existed or that they were of this great size, but the fact remains that when they speak of their lifespans and the details of their forms and lives, this is the field of science and speculation combined. The believr should not be preoccupied with that and he should not waste time discussing it or believe that it is a matter that has any impact on his religious commitment or belief, because he knows that the Qur’aan and Sunnah (example of the prophet) were revealed to guide people and show them the right way; their focus is not history, geography, earth science or biology, although they indicate many facts that have to do with these fields. There are some kinds of animals that are not mentioned in Qur’aan and Sunnah at all, even though they existed at the time the Qur’aan was revealed.

And God knows best.

cooldad

Cody wrote:

I am certifiably insane.
And possibly a bit thick.